Buuhoodle (Video)

[Ben Dover]

LOL what the fuck are you reading man?

The dude is saying the Isaaqs settle in the north and west of Erigavo.

The Dhulos settling in the South and East.

sxb, you are an ciyaal looking for an argument and something to keep you occupied.

Whether you like it or not the Dhulbahante do settle in Erigavo in Huge numbers.

Homeboy refuses to abide by his own source

Your own source calls your claim of Ceerigaabo being the border 'imaginary territory'

Are you actually disputing this?

You have no hope if that is what you are doing. He explicitly says:

"in reality, the newly established SSC exercised control over only the area between Laascanood and Buuhoodle"

"This imagined territory stretched from east of Burco (in the hands of Isaaq) all the way to north Ceerigaabo (long in the hands of Isaaq)"

"Isaaq clan family... reside up to north-east (Ceerigaabo and Maydh)"

Have I shared the map he uses in his paper yet?



As I said. Checkmate. You have no business claiming Ceerigaabo. At best you are magan and have no say in what goes there.

[Sharmarke91]

Like it or not Erigavo is Dhulbahante degaan as much as it's Habr yonis degaan.

We settle in the south & east, and they settle in the west & North.

You an Habr Jeclo have no business in discussing this matter.

When you had a measly 3 councillors in the local election. Even though the elections were conducted by a HJ administration.
LMAO.

The Dhulbahante do not fully participate or acknowledge the local administration installed by the Isaaq. Yet they still have a greater representation in the district and regional authorities than the Habr Jeclo.

[Ben Dover]

Face it, you know you have no leg to stand on. Which is why you keep going back to the SL council numbers. Since you are very accepting of Somaliland statistics, you did not answer yet if you will accept the voter registration numbers. It will show the numbers for each clan.

- You have no political history in the whole region. Why?
- You have never been thought of to be of Erigavo by surveyors who spent 7 years travelling through Somaliland. Why?
- Despite being armed to the teeth by Afweyne, you were evicted from the whole region and only returned to your 3 villages when Isaaq allowed you to return. Why?
- Erigavo today is firmly under Somaliland. Why?

Keep pretending you have a point

[Sharmarke91]

Get more than three councillors then talk to me.

and stop hiding behind the Habr Yonis that booted you out of Burco to Yiroowe. LMAO.

[Ben Dover]

This is literally all you got.

- Where were you in the 1960 election? Or 1969 election? Or 1961 referendum?

- Isaaq got 3 MPs from Snaag and Warsangeli 2. Where was the phantom Dhulbahante clan?

- Erigavo returned more no votes in the referendum than Burco (contrary to what YOU claimed) which is in line with other Isaaq cities, whereas Las Anod and Borama returned a yes vote. How do you explain that?

- You were expelled from the the entire region and forced to run to Las Anod, and only returned when allowed. If you lived in any force, why did you not use the arms Afweyne gave you?

- Why were your returnees going back to settle only three villages?

- How come we do not see any Khatumo bullshit in Erigavo if you lived there?

- If you believe in Somaliland numbers so much, would you accept the voter registration numbers when they come out? (is this the fifth time you are ignoring this question?)

You will never answer these questions. Keep running to the local council numbers, evasiveness, such is the nature of the numerous yet mysterious Dhulbahanta in Sanaag.

As for me, I am the governor of Sanaag today. The mayor of Erigavo is HY, the governor of Sanaag is HJ. Respect your landlords.

[Sharmarke91]

This is literally all you got.

- Where were you in the 1960 election? Or 1969 election? Or 1961 referendum?

- Isaaq got 3 MPs from Snaag and Warsangeli 2. Where was the phantom Dhulbahante clan?

- Erigavo returned more no votes in the referendum than Burco (contrary to what YOU claimed) which is in line with other Isaaq cities, whereas Las Anod and Borama returned a yes vote. How do you explain that?

- You were expelled from the the entire region and forced to run to Las Anod, and only returned when allowed. If you lived in any force, why did you not use the arms Afweyne gave you?

- Why were your returnees going back to settle only three villages?

- How come we do not see any Khatumo bullshit in Erigavo if you lived there?

- If you believe in Somaliland numbers so much, would you accept the voter registration numbers when they come out? (is this the fifth time you are ignoring this question?)

You will never answer these questions. Keep running to the local council numbers, evasiveness, such is the nature of the numerous yet mysterious Dhulbahanta in Sanaag.

As for me, I am the governor of Sanaag today. The mayor of Erigavo is HY, the governor of Sanaag is HJ. Respect your landlords.

Maandho Ceeri beelaha laga tirada badanyahay ba tehe, ha ku mashquulin.

Habr Yonis iyo Isaaq maxad ugu soo daba dhuuban? Lol

You seem mentioning Warsans or Darod here?

lol regional govenors are giving to non local individuals. So, you should be insulted that you got the regional governor.

[Ben Dover]

Maandho Ceeri beelaha laga tirada badanyahay ba tehe, ha ku mashquulin.

Habr Yonis iyo Isaaq maxad ugu soo daba dhuuban? Lol

You seem mentioning Warsans or Darod here?

lol regional govenors are giving to non local individuals. So, you should be insulted that you got the regional governor.

I see you could not dispute a single point I have raised, as expected

The mysterious phantom Dhulbahanta clan in Sanaag achieved one single feat in their supposed history in Sanaag, that is getting some local council members from Somaliland.

HY and HJ are Isaaq. We are one and the same. Even without using the Isaaq label I have more traceable history in Sanaag and Erigavo than your inan layaal Dhulos:

- Colonial surveyors who spent 7 years visiting hamlets and registering clan settlements name the Erigavo clans to be HJ, HY and Warsans.

- In the 1960 election, out of five members of Parliament for Sanaag HJ got 2, same number as your Warsangeli, you got nothing.

- In the 1969 election of Erigavo the member of parliament elected was a HJ.

- Today I am the governor of Sanaag and you have nothing.

So, in conclusion, stay within your 3 village, halagugu ilaaliyo like the magan you are.

Dont claim Erigavo again

lol regional govenors are giving to non local individuals. So, you should be insulted that you got the regional governor.

You have no idea how Somaliland works. When there are two dominant clans in a region one gets mayorship of the capital and the other gets governorship of the region. The same thing happens in Togdheer with HY and HJ, one has Burco mayorship whilst the other get to elect the governor.

[Dhulbahantking]

Maandho Ceeri beelaha laga tirada badanyahay ba tehe, ha ku mashquulin.

Habr Yonis iyo Isaaq maxad ugu soo daba dhuuban? Lol

You seem mentioning Warsans or Darod here?

lol regional govenors are giving to non local individuals. So, you should be insulted that you got the regional governor.

I see you could not dispute a single point I have raised, as expected

The mysterious phantom Dhulbahanta clan in Sanaag achieved one single feat in their supposed history in Sanaag, that is getting some local council members from Somaliland.

HY and HJ are Isaaq. We are one and the same. Even without using the Isaaq label I have more traceable history in Sanaag and Erigavo than your inan layaal Dhulos:

- Colonial surveyors who spent 7 years visiting hamlets and registering clan settlements name the Erigavo clans to be HJ, HY and Warsans.

- In the 1960 election, out of five members of Parliament for Sanaag HJ got 2, same number as your Warsangeli, you got nothing.

- In the 1969 election of Erigavo the member of parliament elected was a HJ.

- Today I am the governor of Sanaag and you have nothing.

So, in conclusion, stay within your 3 village, halagugu ilaaliyo like the magan you are.

Dont claim Erigavo again

lol regional govenors are giving to non local individuals. So, you should be insulted that you got the regional governor.

You have no idea how Somaliland works. When there are two dominant clans in a region one gets mayorship of the capital and the other gets governorship of the region. The same thing happens in Togdheer with HY and HJ, one has Burco mayorship whilst the other get to elect the governor.

If u want erigavo give Harveys back to us fair trade

[Sharmarke91]

Maandho Ceeri beelaha laga tirada badanyahay ba tehe, ha ku mashquulin.

Habr Yonis iyo Isaaq maxad ugu soo daba dhuuban? Lol

You seem mentioning Warsans or Darod here?

lol regional govenors are giving to non local individuals. So, you should be insulted that you got the regional governor.

I see you could not dispute a single point I have raised, as expected

The mysterious phantom Dhulbahanta clan in Sanaag achieved one single feat in their supposed history in Sanaag, that is getting some local council members from Somaliland.

HY and HJ are Isaaq. We are one and the same. Even without using the Isaaq label I have more traceable history in Sanaag and Erigavo than your inan layaal Dhulos:

- Colonial surveyors who spent 7 years visiting hamlets and registering clan settlements name the Erigavo clans to be HJ, HY and Warsans.

- In the 1960 election, out of five members of Parliament for Sanaag HJ got 2, same number as your Warsangeli, you got nothing.

- In the 1969 election of Erigavo the member of parliament elected was a HJ.

- Today I am the governor of Sanaag and you have nothing.

So, in conclusion, stay within your 3 village, halagugu ilaaliyo like the magan you are.

Dont claim Erigavo again

lol regional govenors are giving to non local individuals. So, you should be insulted that you got the regional governor.

You have no idea how Somaliland works. When there are two dominant clans in a region one gets mayorship of the capital and the other gets governorship of the region. The same thing happens in Togdheer with HY and HJ, one has Burco mayorship whilst the other get to elect the governor.

LMAO ceeb weyna am talking about a 15th generation sub clan of Darod (Naleya Ahmed) and your stuck on Isaaq. You just clarified Isaaq Langabnimo sxb.


Somaliland regional Governors

- Awdal - Mustafe Abdi Essa SHIINE (Habr Yonis)
- Marodi Jeex - Abdillahi Jibriil Gahnug BURAALE (ARAB)
- Togdheer - Mahamud Ali Saleban RAMAAX (Habr Awal)
- Sanaag - Ahmed Abdi Jama FALAY (Habr Jeclo)
- Sool - Abdi Khayre DIRIR (Dhulbahante)
- Saahil - Jamac Yusuf Ahmed DAROOGO (Samaroon)

Apart from Sool and Maroodi jeex the rest of the governors are from other regions.

The governor of Maroodi Jeex was Dhulbahante, but since the conflict between Qayaad & Bahrarsame started in sool, a Dhulbahante governor was appointed for sool to resolve the conflict.

So, obviously your the one who doesn't how your administration functions.

If there are two dominant clans in a region; one gets the mayor and other deputy governor. That's why in sanaag. the mayor is Habr Yonis and deputy governor Dhulbahante.

[Ben Dover]

You ignored all the points again because you have no lineage, history or legacy in the town or Sanaag in general (other than Somaliland local council results, which have a ton of discrepancies, and you refuse to abide by voter registration numbers so that is null and void).

LMAO ceeb weyna am talking about a 15th generation sub clan of Darod (Naleya Ahmed) and your stuck on Isaaq. You just clarified Isaaq Langabnimo sxb.

You think I give a shit?

If there are two dominant clans in a region; one gets the mayor and other deputy governor. That's why in sanaag. the mayor is Habr Yonis and deputy governor Dhulbahante.

You are bragging to me about being my deputy. Enough said, I will let you live.

[Sharmarke91]

You ignored all the points again because you have no lineage, history or legacy in the town or Sanaag in general (other than Somaliland local council results, which have a ton of discrepancies, and you refuse to abide by voter registration numbers so that is null and void).

LMAO ceeb weyna am talking about a 15th generation sub clan of Darod (Naleya Ahmed) and your stuck on Isaaq. You just clarified Isaaq Langabnimo sxb.

You think I give a shit?

If there are two dominant clans in a region; one gets the mayor and other deputy governor. That's why in sanaag. the mayor is Habr Yonis and deputy governor Dhulbahante.

You are bragging to me about being my deputy. Enough said, I will let you live.

Why should I answer your questions when you keep avoiding my mine?

Governor of sanaag is HJ = Habr Jeclo don't belong in Sanaag.

[Ben Dover]

You could not answer because we both know you have nothing to say

Do you actually read what you post?
Governor of Sool is Dhulos = Dhulos dont belong in Sool

[Sharmarke91]

You could not answer because we both know you have nothing to say

Do you actually read what you post?
Governor of Sool is Dhulos = Dhulos dont belong in Sool

Answer this question;

You say Dhulbahante hardly settle in Sanaag or Erigavo.

Then explain to me why your beloved British made this Map indicating all four clans inhabiting the region equally?



Ma farta waaweyn bad wax ku fahanta?

THE REGIONAL GOVERNORS ARE NOT NATIVE TO THE REGIONS THEY'RE APPOINTED TO, READ THIS LIST.

- Awdal - Mustafe Abdi Essa SHIINE (Habr Yonis)
- Marodi Jeex - Abdillahi Jibriil Gahnug BURAALE (ARAB)
- Togdheer - Mahamud Ali Saleban RAMAAX (Habr Awal)
- Sanaag - Ahmed Abdi Jama FALAY (Habr Jeclo)
- Sool - Abdi Khayre DIRIR (Dhulbahante)
- Saahil - Jamac Yusuf Ahmed DAROOGO (Samaroon)

The governor of Sool is currently Dhulos for a reason, few months ago the Governor of Sool was Habr Awal, the last three before him were Habr Yonis. Also, the last two governors of Maroodi Jeex were Dhulos.

i.e. The HJ governor of Sanaag is not appointed to appease the minority HJ clan of Sanaag or reflect the presences of sections of the HJ clan in the region.

[Ben Dover]

What the fuck are you talking about? You are desperate sxb

That is a map of various roads and how many people these roads may serve. It has no relation to regions or their populations. Roads can go from Berbera all the way to Bosaso

It even says: "rough estimated population".

But even if we go by it, it has Erigavo locked down as a HY town. That satisfies me.

You lose, again. Just how many times during this discussion did you cite something and it completely backfired?

- You cited that German guy. He said that you living or controlling Erigavo is 'imaginary territory' and 'not based on realities on the ground'.

- You cited the 1961 referendum, it turns you were wrong, Erigavo did NOT return a yes vote as you said. Instead, it turned a resounding no vote, inline with other Isaaq cities. In fact they returned 69% no when Burao returned only 66%

- You know brought a map that clearly shows HY to be the only residents of Erigavo. The rest of the map is about roads that go through different regions and -roughly- how many people they may serve

Give it up. This game was up a couple of pages ago

[Sharmarke91]

Ok so if this is a "map of various roads and how many people these roads may serve" then is it just a massive coincidence, that the clan estimates produced by the British is exactly the same as those clan estimates on this map?



and why does it satisfy you if it's shown the HY living near to Erigavo. Your HJ - dantaada ka hadal.


..also, the guy never said the Dhulbahante do not live in Erigavo. The imaginary territory he talks about is north of Ceerigabo, and thats right we don't settle there and I've never heard a dhulbahante claiming this land.

but can you explain to me what he means by "...and Isaaq areas in Sanaag to the west and north of Ceerigaabo" ?
I mean why don't he just say and the Isaaq areas of Ceerigabo, If the Isaaq settled in the entire Erigavo area.