Why do some Somalil's hate being black

[GrindToShine]

I'm not black.

its your race. there's no point of disputing a fact.

There's nothing called "Black" race.

Go to the street and ask people what race are you. just wait until they accidentally spit their water at you due to laughter.

[Brawler99]

its your race. there's no point of disputing a fact.

There's nothing called "Black" race.

Go to the street and ask people what race are you. just wait until they accidentally spit their water at you due to laughter.

Who the fuck are they to dictate what race I am. Only I know my race not them.

[Khalid Ali]

what a dumb topic made by an ignorant kid. whos whole life surrounds around money alll he was talking about was looking down on hard working somalis in malls or what ever shaqo is shaqo. if ur lucky ur dad and mom are docters and lawyers say alhmd dont be a d i ck and faan like a little dhiiilo ceeb heshay


as for race germanic antraponoligist in the 18 century never places somalis under negroes

somalis habashas oromo afar beja are all the same peoples who fall under the Caucasian race. just dark caucasions


black is not an identity it means nothin its not a religion nor culture

[GrindToShine]

There's nothing called "Black" race.

Go to the street and ask people what race are you. just wait until they accidentally spit their water at you due to laughter.

Who the fuck are they to dictate what race I am. Only I know my race not them.

lol there you go again, sounding like those LGBT's. everyone knows your race, you just don't

[Brawler99]

Go to the street and ask people what race are you. just wait until they accidentally spit their water at you due to laughter.

Who the fuck are they to dictate what race I am. Only I know my race not them.

lol there you go again, sounding like those LGBT's. everyone knows your race, you just don't

Lol whatever u say buddy my race is Somali that's that.

[GrindToShine]

what a dumb topic made by an ignorant kid. whos whole life surrounds around money alll he was talking about was looking down on hard working somalis in malls or what ever shaqo is shaqo. if ur lucky ur dad and mom are docters and lawyers say alhmd dont be a d i ck and faan like a little dhiiilo ceeb heshay


as for race germanic antraponoligist in the 18 century never places somalis under negroes

somalis habashas oromo afar beja are all the same peoples who fall under the Caucasian race. just dark caucasions


black is not an identity it means nothin its not a religion nor culture

Somalis working in malls or places like that is not hard working. it means they don't value education and are nothing in life. And my mom is a nurse, dad does stocks. and you're talking about stuff from the 18th century by a white guy who didn't know what he was talking about. and tell a white person you're Caucasian, you're probably gonna get knocked out. somalis are black. and black is an identity.

[PanSomaliNationalist]

what a dumb topic made by an ignorant kid. whos whole life surrounds around money alll he was talking about was looking down on hard working somalis in malls or what ever shaqo is shaqo. if ur lucky ur dad and mom are docters and lawyers say alhmd dont be a d i ck and faan like a little dhiiilo ceeb heshay


as for race germanic antraponoligist in the 18 century never places somalis under negroes

somalis habashas oromo afar beja are all the same peoples who fall under the Caucasian race. just dark caucasions


black is not an identity it means nothin its not a religion nor culture

Somalis working in malls or places like that is not hard working. it means they don't value education and are nothing in life. And my mom is a nurse, dad does stocks. and you're talking about stuff from the 18th century by a white guy who didn't know what he was talking about. and tell a white person you're Caucasian, you're probably gonna get knocked out. somalis are black. and black is an identity.

are indians black

[GrindToShine]

what a dumb topic made by an ignorant kid. whos whole life surrounds around money alll he was talking about was looking down on hard working somalis in malls or what ever shaqo is shaqo. if ur lucky ur dad and mom are docters and lawyers say alhmd dont be a d i ck and faan like a little dhiiilo ceeb heshay


as for race germanic antraponoligist in the 18 century never places somalis under negroes

somalis habashas oromo afar beja are all the same peoples who fall under the Caucasian race. just dark caucasions


black is not an identity it means nothin its not a religion nor culture

Somalis working in malls or places like that is not hard working. it means they don't value education and are nothing in life. And my mom is a nurse, dad does stocks. and you're talking about stuff from the 18th century by a white guy who didn't know what he was talking about. and tell a white person you're Caucasian, you're probably gonna get knocked out. somalis are black. and black is an identity.

are indians black

Hell no.

[PanSomaliNationalist]

Somalis working in malls or places like that is not hard working. it means they don't value education and are nothing in life. And my mom is a nurse, dad does stocks. and you're talking about stuff from the 18th century by a white guy who didn't know what he was talking about. and tell a white person you're Caucasian, you're probably gonna get knocked out. somalis are black. and black is an identity.

are indians black

Hell no.

Then why am i black?

Are these men black?

[Havoc]

We are not black because we are Somalis & u can't be both.

[GrindToShine]

are indians black

Hell no.

Then why am i black?

Are these men black?

You're black because you're from Somalia. End of story.

[PanSomaliNationalist]

Hell no.

Then why am i black?

Are these men black?

You're black because you're from Somalia. End of story.

So are benadiris yet you dont consider them black

[GrindToShine]

Then why am i black?

Are these men black?

You're black because you're from Somalia. End of story.

So are benadiris yet you dont consider them black

I don't consider them black because I don't consider them Somali.

[TheMightyNomad]

I was in the car taking my aunt somewhere and I put on some drill rap (not gonna listen to any of that whiteboy music they play on the radio) and she said "why are you acting like these mathows?". I told her I am black and she said "wallahi these kids don't know their daqan?". Anywho, why does it seem that so many somalis deny that they're black? And it seems like these somalis that deny they're black only say they're black when they're victimized.

We Somalis reject "black" as an identity. Because black is a western identity trap, that renders you alienated without any framework for social development. What sense is it to confine ourself to a name that only reflects our skin color.

Just because we share skin color with AAs or other Africans doesn't mean we have the same values, cultures or live in the same reality as them. This doesn't mean we see ourselves as surperior, it just means we see ourselves as distinct.

So i agree with your Aunt. She is very much correct you are Somali not black. Black is an empty color abstract with no refrence attached to it, while your Somaliness on the other hand connects you to land, culture and history.

Lastly we understand the reality of discrimination and racism in the west, it's just not our identity. Racism and discrimination does not describe us. Ask yourself if the only difference is skin complexion and being at the bottom of every social economic indicator. Then how is that an identity?

There is no wonder why Somalis feel a sense of inadequaucy when it comes to the super-imposition of blackness. Because it takes them away from their claim to land, culture and history and renders them into homeless marginalized "other" with no refrence.

First if all, we are in the west.

Ain't that obvious. Thats why i said black is a western identity trap.

And Nigerians are proud to be black and they're striving in this country, most Somalis are just lazy pieces of trash that wanna complain about America but don't wanna go back home.

Somalis are proud of being Muslim,African and Somali-American. We are slowly moving up the social-economic ladder.

I would disagree with you many Somalis are very hardworking and attending higher education, creating businesses etc and love America. They might not agree with American foreign policy and criticize the government this doesn't mean they hate the country they live in.

Somalis don't have to go home, they are part of the American melting pot as any other ethnic group.

And you wanna talk about social development? Somalia is a shithole with no money, no jobs, no nothing. And it''s not confining yourself, it'd be confining yourself to call yourself "Somali".

''It'd be confining yourself to call yourself ''Somali''' wtf Waryaa orood Af-english baro Go pick up an English dictionary and learn what the term ''Social development'' and the word ''confine''' means. I feel like i'm speaking to a 10 year old.

What happened/happening in Somalia is completely circumstantial and not definitive in anyway shape or form. Secondly the state of our country does not do away with your Ethnic identity. You are Somali and that perfectly describes who you are.

Black only tells you how you look, it does not tell you who you are. Somali tells you who you are.

Because what do you write on that census? Black.

I tick other then i write in Somali on the census. Most Somalis do that as well,tbh

And listen here. I was born in the country, I can only understand some SomalI and don't speak a lick of it, I don't eat Somali food, I don't associate with somalis other than my immediate family, I don't listen to Somali music, and I've never been to Somalia.

What you do not get is that being a citizen of a country or a continent is not the same thing as your race. You can have an American passport, or a British passport-- that is your nationality. Your race, regardless of what your passport color is SOMALI. You could be born on the moon and never seen our beautiful country-- You are a Somali.

You might say hey what about us who are 100% American in culture and are even incapable of speaking Af Soomaali ? It is undeniable that you are practitioners of western culture but it does not make them American or Canadian but merely Somalis who have embraced Western/European culture.

Just like the other thousands of Somalis across the globe who speak European languages, eat European food, behave like Europeans, engage in Eurocentric understandings of religion are no closer to actually being European.

You are still are physically Somali but European in mentality and attitude.
The cultures of Somali people extend beyond their physical geography and are informed not only by geography but also by physical ethnic traits.

And we do live in the same reality as "blacks", we live in America. And throughout my high school years I was friends with "blacks" and my few close friends go to college with me while the somalis who tried to be my friend in high school are working at Walmart when I go and pick up my groceries. Black is who I am, black is who somalis are. You're east African. You look in the mirror and see black. If you think otherwise you're a self hating nigga. And you say you don't share the same realities as "blacks" but I'm sure Saddiq at the gas station will watch you closely and jimmy and heather will think "what is this nigger doing in this neighborhood". Now ask yourself, how does my "somaliNess" connect myself to my land, culture, or history?

We do not share the same cultural reality as ''blacks'', we don't have the same backgrounds, upbringing same totality of experiences.A shared complexion does not equal a shared culture . Never denied being East African. Wait a minute.. you hate being associated with Somalia but you are Okay with being from East Africa? which also a region of the continent you have never been to. I'm sorry i just find that sort of cliche . What are the odds you are one of those who claim you are from East Africa and not Somalia.

Blacks going to college with you is an oxymoron.

Especially considering how African Americans and Latinos are being outperformed by Somalis in the educational system.

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-new ... e-schools/
Testing in Seattle schools proves that East African students out perform both African Americans and even native English speaking latinos. Keep in mind that the average IQ for African Americans in Washington state is 94, the highest IQ African American population in the US. Their performance above American blacks (labeled as “English-speaking” blacks) defies the common sociologist explanation that higher achieving black immigrants are simply the most driven members of their source populations

''My black friends go to college with me while somalis work at wallmart'' kulaha. Next time invent a better hate story.

Because as far I don't give a shit about the corrupt land known as Somalia and I hope the famine allah bestowed upon them extincts that corrupt country, I have no somali country, and all the somali history I know and care about is they destroyed their own country. If you're from east Africa and you're black, you're somali. And you know what they feel that if being black takes their culture? Then get off the section 8 and see if you can survive in the famine back home, we all know what they'd pick.

To sum it up you are a really hateful person who can't construct a single coherent sentence to save your life. You really hate being Somali and to compensate for that you claim ''Black'' as your primary identity instead ,all while taking pride in rejecting everything Somali.

Not sure if this is a simple case of an identity crisis or just you really hate your heritage and your own race. Either way you need to sort yourself out brotha.

[TheMightyNomad]

black is a race. somali is not a race. its an ethnicity. Like a german person. their race is Caucasian, but their ethnicity is german. And your "Appearances" are black. like i said, black isn't just one set of features or skin color. it is very diverse.

Even if there was a race called "Black" Somalis would still not be part of it. We are our own race. It is what it is.

then what race would somali be? Somali is not a race. you don't see nigerian people saying "Oh, im not black. im nigerian". its just self-hating somali niggas that tongue punch these arabs and indians assholes.

Why are you so obsessed with Nigerians? dafuq. Stop interjecting them into the convo.
I have absolutely no interest in what an Nigerian would Identify as. Heck may they call themselves yellow, green, pink for all i care. I do not grade what we do by what they do. We Somalis are self determined people, we are not confined by a name that only reflects our skin color.

First lets be clear ''Black'' is not a racial family, an ethnic group or a super-ethnic group. Political blackness is not an identity but moreover a social-political consequence of a world which after colonialism and slavery existed in those color terms.

While Somali on the other hand is a race because it hugs both ethnicity and supersedes nationality. Which means we are a race who share historical, social, mental, physiological, linguistic, cultural, similarities.