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The Lions of wadajir defeats Gov troops in battle in Xamar

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Re: The Lions of wadajir defeats Gov troops in battle in Xamar

Postby Xaldoon » Wed May 31, 2017 5:52 am

These Jeberti here did you already forgotten 1991? when jebertis have guns and army in allover Somalia and Xamar they been chased a daylight to Otanga Kenya by these same groups that are fighting in mogadishu today, you think today an amry of Hawiye vs another army of hawiye will win for you? these people who are fighting Both SNA & Militia are the same people who had nothing yesterday and robbed your weapons plus chase you from Mudug Mogadishu to the border of kenya.
Why are you trying to make our brothers hate one another by distorting the past and twisting it for your wicked intentions. Fear Allah

I've mentioned it on here before and I will say it again.

Hawiye during the 80's and 90's were at war with Taghuut Maxamed Siyaad Barre who commited unprecedented war crimes on our peoples and who destroyed our nations economy. This is a man who looked up to dictators the likes of Nicolae Ceaușescu and Chairman Mao.

We asked him to step down peacefully but he refused Muammar AlQadhafi Style so we had no option to fight Maxamed Siyaad Barre and his corrupt armies.

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Re: The Lions of wadajir defeats Gov troops in battle in Xamar

Postby paperino » Wed May 31, 2017 6:28 am

Pay them off and ensure that they have alternative livelihoods. HAG soldiers must remain loyal to Reerka, Tolka, & Diinta RTD until the well being of Beesha are secured
The government has limited funds and cannot pay tens of militias.

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Re: The Lions of wadajir defeats Gov troops in battle in Xamar

Postby zidane88 » Wed May 31, 2017 7:00 am

The Militias should be trained,mixed up, and deployed different regions of the country as SNA.

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Re: The Lions of wadajir defeats Gov troops in battle in Xamar

Postby Adali » Wed May 31, 2017 3:40 pm

the tribal militia have heavy weaponry and want hard currency in exchange for them, the government is doing the right thing we cannot have heavily armed tribal militias in the capital, they will clash with each other and innocent lives will be lost. This move is to improve the stability in Mogadishu.

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Re: The Lions of wadajir defeats Gov troops in battle in Xamar

Postby Lion104 » Wed May 31, 2017 4:12 pm

Why are you trying to make our brothers hate one another by distorting the past and twisting it for your wicked intentions. Fear Allah

I've mentioned it on here before and I will say it again.

Hawiye during the 80's and 90's were at war with Taghuut Maxamed Siyaad Barre who commited unprecedented war crimes on our peoples and who destroyed our nations economy.
The 1977 war destroyed our nations economy, not the dictator. Before the war, everything was going well.
The war that all Somalis wanted to fight and lost destroyed the nations economy.

This is a man who looked up to dictators the likes of Nicolae Ceaușescu and Chairman Mao.

We asked him to step down peacefully but he refused Muammar AlQadhafi Style so we had no option to fight Maxamed Siyaad Barre and his corrupt armies.
Muhammad al Qadhafi had the choice to either step down to US backed rebel groups who wanted to destroy his country, or to fight for his nation. He chose the latter. Siad Barre had the choice to step down to Ethiopian backed rebel groups, or to fight these traitors.

Mooryans killed and starved 1 million people after siad barre stepped down. 30 years later, they are still fighting. The problem was never Siad Barre, but power hungry leaders.

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Re: The Lions of wadajir defeats Gov troops in battle in Xamar

Postby Alamtra » Wed May 31, 2017 7:33 pm

Walahi anu Faramanjo wantagersanahay wana nin 100% wanagsan lakin dhibka jira dawladi malinti ay shaqo bilowday ila hada muqdishey ka dhaman ladahay. Wa iga su'aale hawshi dawlada ma muqdisho kaliya? Shaqaadi dawlada waxay ku bilabatey qalad hadi an qaladkaas lasixiin shacabka muqdisho waxa ku dhicidona niyadjab weyn oo sababeysa iskudhac iyo jahwareer horleh...Ogaada melaha Farmanjo laga tageray muqdisho wa N1..anigu waxan Farmanjo kula talin laha in uu lataliye wanagsan radsado oo u fudfudeedka iyo go'aanka dedegta iska dayo.
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Re: The Lions of wadajir defeats Gov troops in battle in Xamar

Postby grandpakhalif » Thu Jun 01, 2017 5:50 am

I don't see the problem Sanbalooshe and Abaanduulaha Gen. Canood are cleaning up the mooryan filth that bother the shacab.

Yesterday an HG Militia leader in Sepian Mahad Doolaar was forcefully disarmed and sent too godka jilicoow as punishment for resisting arrests.

Axmed Daaci, muse suudi. Saaney cabdulle, Cabdi qeybdiid are next in line.

Remember this ain't about qabiil because those same troops are Hawiye +mixed!

Guul Farmaajo!

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Re: The Lions of wadajir defeats Gov troops in battle in Xamar

Postby AbdiWahab252 » Thu Jun 01, 2017 8:10 am

Grandpa, couple of questions:


1. Will the government guarantee the security of these areas?

2. Will they pay for these weapons ?

3. Will they provide alternative livelihoods for the militiamen?

i see this program as the back firing badly on Farmajo. These militias provide security for their areas, livelihoods for their families, and the government has no capacity to secure the capital from AS.

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Re: The Lions of wadajir defeats Gov troops in battle in Xamar

Postby xiimaaya » Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:29 pm

i am in wadajir and nothing happened today,this is fake news.

The thread has attracted the mooryans like flies.sht foqal sht.amazing how abkowdhilow is posting fake news.adeer hadii xamar lagu dagaalamo waxa dhimanayo soo idinka leemaahan.your children,elderly people will get rains of unknown hoobiyaal.
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Re: The Lions of wadajir defeats Gov troops in battle in Xamar

Postby FBISOMALIA » Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:41 pm

Great step ! , farmajoo should do it long time ago .

Xamar should secure first from moryaan , jungle style should be over .

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Re: The Lions of wadajir defeats Gov troops in battle in Xamar

Postby FBISOMALIA » Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:43 pm

Bizzare move to defend. If the Daarood are honest ok begin disarming Jubland and Puntland.
So you can achieve your ictraaf !

PL will be there if you like it or not .

put down your ammo first before talking about PL .

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Re: The Lions of wadajir defeats Gov troops in battle in Xamar

Postby sahal80 » Fri Jun 02, 2017 6:04 pm

saxiibkay khalid knows isaaq being disarmed in 1994 thanks to their statesman cigaal. sxb darod meeshasn waxba kama aha just farmaajo is a darod man but the whole system is hawiye iyo hawiye raac like reerow hassan even mx r seen different, radio mogadishu still acts hiraab yesterday was praising ali osoble this man who is against the govt. farmaajo ciidan iska dhaafe mudaaharad baa lagu tuuri karaa.

maanta hawiye iyo darood wax la dhoho ma jiraan. daroodka qolo waxay rabaan dagaal inuu dhoco, is badal xamar ka dhicin sida dawladnimada ayagana saas ku qaraabeystaan kuwana hadeeyba mucaarad yihiin

qolada mucaaradka damjadiid bay la qaraabtaan agendahooda waa raysulwasaaraha oo ls badalo

qolada pro-dagaalka waa ka soo horjeedaan in raysulwasaarah labadala and are for total war!


http://www.radiomuqdisho.net/madaxweyna ... rshabelle/

AW iyo kuwa hiraabka ah, war 27 years baad wax samaysan wayseen, HG cabdiqaasim bay u diidey villa somalia, 9 years of useless abgaal rule. garguurte should have done all this i think they havent done shyt bc they fear if xamar gets stable somaliwayn president can be elected.


hawlgalka socda waa preemptive war and the reason is this govt has no clan support in xamar since the pm belongs to small subclan so they r trying to put the danger away. they brought villa somalia especial forces who r made up of all hawiye and D&M, moved 3000 hiraab forces to bali doogle!

now r disarming their warlords to pave the way the establishment of professional forces with different commanders! nasically no clan militias!

dawladii markii meesha ka baxdey marka aminga laga reebo wixii kale dadku waysaneysteen sida biyaha, korantada, xawaaladaha hada waxaan dhan dawladaa la wareegaysa iyo amniga




agaasimaha warfaafinta waa reerow hassan



watch this lecture on the security structure on xamar

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... kxePRmg-MA

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Re: The Lions of wadajir defeats Gov troops in battle in Xamar

Postby paperino » Fri Jun 02, 2017 8:31 pm

now r disarming their warlords to pave the way the establishment of professional forces with different commanders! nasically no clan militias!
How effective can the professional forces be? Afghan professional forces have been trained for +10 years, yet ineffective against the Taliban.

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Re: The Lions of wadajir defeats Gov troops in battle in Xamar

Postby TheblueNwhite » Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:47 pm

War ninkii Ahmed Daaci hubka ka qaadi kara ha yimaado.

Warsheekh, sxb hubka yaan magaalada lala marin ayey sheekada taagan tahay. Laakiin maalintii hub aan kaa dhiganaa bilaabato ayaa wiishka yeeraa. Marka ha degdegin. Wait and see and hope for the best peaceful outcome. Dagaal iyo belaayo saacadan yaa tabar u haayo. Hantideena iney burburto ma aha wax aan ku farxaayo. It took alot of sacrifice to build it up. We all want the same thing, peaceful coexistence. Aan wada noolaano, yaanan isku xadgudbin.

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Re: The Lions of wadajir defeats Gov troops in battle in Xamar

Postby sahal80 » Sat Jun 03, 2017 12:56 am

now r disarming their warlords to pave the way the establishment of professional forces with different commanders! nasically no clan militias!
How effective can the professional forces be? Afghan professional forces have been trained for +10 years, yet ineffective against the Taliban.
there wont be professional army this will take 20 years. watch the video i posted at 15:00

what they r trying is to make these forces loyal to them by paying them and appointing for them commanders

this army was formed under the TFG sharif, and SFG garguurte so 70% are abgaal

besides this, each commander and district commissioner has his own militias. for example under former security minister omar hashi some hawadle forces were deployed in xamar led by col cageey then they were moved to lower shabelle as the city was liberated last time i checked they were based in qoryooley but may went back to hiiraan. we got police in xamar under general mukhtar the deputy police commander

there were indhacade, xamar ahlusunna, ina macalin nuur taliyaha zaadka, district militias, warlords who act as district commissioners like ahmed daaci. as you reach middle shabelle there is guuto HG, guuto abgaal, guuto biimaal

so all of them act as dawlad but they r not cohesive and coherent

there r troops who r loyal to foreign countries like the UAE


al shabaab puy their rasaas from commanders within the army also use the warlords arms strores to avoid been noticed so if you put the army directly under the state they will have hard time

this store was belonging to a former clan militias leader yet was owned by al shabaab!
http://www.calankamedia.com/?nid=26593

if you mix all these troops in xaafadaha then you can make alot of check points to make for al shabab harder

alshabab dont attack without coordination with the army. they have three groups; agents who bribe the commanders they paid them via cardka xawaalada, these guys send the soldiers somewhere else like muqaayad, marfash to open the way for them. next sahan/ استطلاع car goes there followed by the attackers/ the bombers car from far. if the sahan car sees the troops still there they will tell the bombers to go back and they will call the agent who will call the commander. it happened before a commander who took the money told them fk off but they contacted hormuud and cancelled the money bc its sent by mobile

danta dadka xamar bay ugu jirtaa not those in other regions this is their army and their land. they got galmudug and hiirshabelle xamar is caasimad and this govts power wont reach beyond balcad let them fix xamar

but im against non Hiraab and murursade generals leading these operations. i dont like sanbalolshe involving in it bc we dont wanna take the blame.


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