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Xiraabu Gutia Teodorous: The Meaning of the Name

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Remember our previous discussion on Boon Marehan?

We have seen from various academic sources, across different languages, that they are in fact servile equivalents of Midgan. They eat dead meat, and that Somalis have historically considered them an inferior people.

For some background reading on the base-born origins of Boon Marehan, have look at this post:
https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 5#p4821865

But I have started this thread because of a new revelation regarding the origins of the name Xiraabu, the leader of Boon Marehan. What is the meaning of Xiraabu? Or Gutia? or Teodorous?

I found the meaning, at least for Xiraabu!

Check this out:

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Basically it is a word in Islamic law meaning "banditry", “piracy”, or “unlawful warfare”.

Please note the use of Arabic (xa) in the name, exactly as it appears in the inscription of the name Xiraabu in Futuh Al Habash:

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If we remember, the Imam Ahmed has actually had an encounter with a marauding clan of bandits whom he punished:

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The author discusses how the Imam attacked a marauding clan of bandits by the name of Habr Maqdi, when the Imam reached them he utterly destroyed them and turned their country to dust. And as he returned home, the Somalis, weary of the destruction inflicted on them went to the Imaam led by their leader Xirabo and other Somalis, and there they concluded peace with him.
(Please do not confuse Habar Maqdi in the text, the bandits whom the Imam punished, with Habar Magaadle, the Arabic text distinguishes both names).

I always found it strange that the bandits' leader was Xiraabu, who was also named to be the (double faced, swindler) leader of Bon Marehan.

But it all makes sense once you know that Xiraabu = Bandit.

His name was probably Guita Teodorous, and he was described in the Arabic text as someone who have committed Hiraaba (Islamic law term for banditry).

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There you have it :lol:

The Boon leader was called Xiraabu Gutia Teodorous, Xiraabu in reference to the banditry of his Boon people.
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Using “Midgan”as insult became old useless thing; get the memo dude all Somalis became midgans, after the famine people now eat all animals without any discrimination. Check the retardedspot pictures about (famine in silanyo ‘s village) and will see the state the geeljires had reduced to it. May Allah make it easy for them.
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Small note the Arab tribes in Arabic peninsula were per Islam bunch of bandits that raided on caravans that travels from Yemen to Syria. Later after Islam those Arab bandits defeated Rome and Persia.
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Ben Dover wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2017 1:07 pm Remember our previous discussion on Boon Marehan?

We have seen from various academic sources, across different languages, that they are in fact servile equivalents of Midgan. They eat dead meat, and that Somalis have historically considered them an inferior people.

For some background reading on the base-born origins of Boon Marehan, have look at this post:
https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 5#p4821865

But I have started this thread because of a new revelation regarding the origins of the name Xiraabu, the leader of Boon Marehan. What is the meaning of Xiraabu? Or Gutia? or Teodorous?

I found the meaning, at least for Xiraabu!

Check this out:

Image

Basically it is a word in Islamic law meaning "banditry", “piracy”, or “unlawful warfare”.

Please note the use of Arabic (xa) in the name, exactly as it appears in the inscription of the name Xiraabu in Futuh Al Habash:

Image

If we remember, the Imam Ahmed has actually had an encounter with a marauding clan of bandits whom he punished:

Image
The author discusses how the Imam attacked a marauding clan of bandits by the name of Habr Maqdi, when the Imam reached them he utterly destroyed them and turned their country to dust. And as he returned home, the Somalis, weary of the destruction inflicted on them went to the Imaam led by their leader Xirabo and other Somalis, and there they concluded peace with him.
(Please do not confuse Habar Maqdi in the text, the bandits whom the Imam punished, with Habar Magaadle, the Arabic text distinguishes both names).

I always found it strange that the bandits' leader was Xiraabu, who was also named to be the (double faced, swindler) leader of Bon Marehan.

But it all makes sense once you know that Xiraabu = Bandit.

His name was probably Guita Teodorous, and he was described in the Arabic text as someone who have committed Hiraaba (Islamic law term for banditry).

Image

There you have it :lol:

The Boon leader was called Xiraabu Gutia Teodorous, Xiraabu in reference to the banditry of his Boon people.
The problem with Axmed Al Jeezaani or Shihaab Al Diin as he liked yo be called is his knowledge of Somali tribes is basic. He constantly contradicts himself now he refer to Hiraabu as the leader of Habar Magadle tribe? In the rest of the book he confuses all Somali clans and chiefs making even Axmed Gurey the leader of the Isaaq a leader of Yibirs then he turns around and at the same time confuses Mareexaan and Habar Maqdi and making them the same tribe. In the passage above he doesn't even regard Geri Koombe a Somali tribe lol.

This happens when you spend few months among the tribes most of early westerners also confused tribes and sub clans.

The term Goiata is an Amharic title meaning petty chief.
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X.Playa wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:34 pm
The problem with Axmed Al Jeezaani or Shihaab Al Diin as he liked yo be called is his knowledge of Somali tribes is basic. He constantly contradicts himself now he refer to Hiraabu as the leader of Habar Magadle tribe? In the rest of the book he confuses all Somali clans and chiefs making even Axmed Gurey the leader of the Isaaq a leader of Yibirs then he turns around and at the same time confuses Mareexaan and Habar Maqdi and making them the same tribe. In the passage above he doesn't even regard Geri Koombe a Somali tribe lol.

This happens when you spend few months among the tribes most of early westerners also confused tribes and sub clans.

The term Goiata is an Amharic title meaning petty chief.
He makes the distinction clear between Habar Maqdi (these guys are the bandits whose leader was Xiraabu) and Habar Magaadle Isaaq (the first group to join the Imam with their leader Ahmed Gurey).

The most probable explanation is that Habar Maqdi the bandits whom the Imam punished were a subsection of the Boon Marehan. This is why their leader is called Xiraabu (bandit).

Very interesting that Goiata means petty chief.

So Xiraabu Guiata = bandit chief.

Makes perfect sense.
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Ben Dover wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:51 pm
X.Playa wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:34 pm
The problem with Axmed Al Jeezaani or Shihaab Al Diin as he liked yo be called is his knowledge of Somali tribes is basic. He constantly contradicts himself now he refer to Hiraabu as the leader of Habar Magadle tribe? In the rest of the book he confuses all Somali clans and chiefs making even Axmed Gurey the leader of the Isaaq a leader of Yibirs then he turns around and at the same time confuses Mareexaan and Habar Maqdi and making them the same tribe. In the passage above he doesn't even regard Geri Koombe a Somali tribe lol.

This happens when you spend few months among the tribes most of early westerners also confused tribes and sub clans.

The term Goiata is an Amharic title meaning petty chief.
He makes the distinction clear between Habar Maqdi (these guys are the bandits whose leader was Xiraabu) and Habar Magaadle Isaaq (the first group to join the Imam with their leader Ahmed Gurey).

The most probable explanation is that Habar Maqdi the bandits whom the Imam punished were a subsection of the Boon Marehan. This is why their leader is called Xiraabu (bandit).

Very interesting that Goiata means petty chief.

So Xiraabu Guiata = bandit chief.

Makes perfect sense.
There is only one Habar Magaadle in the book he just confused two incident of Somali clans vs the Imaam. Both Mareexaan and Habar Magaadle wared with the initial followers of Imaam Axmed. But in the above passage he confuses Mareexaan with H.Magadle. Throughout the book he confuses clans and chiefs and Somalis and non Somalis.

As far as I know there is no Somali tribe or sub clan other then the habar Magaadle. The Arab author stayed briefly in the land and his chronicals end before the death of the Imaam.
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