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Why Oromia is not like Ogadenia/Somali Kilil

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Why Oromia is not like Ogadenia/Somali Kilil

Postby Waachis » Thu Mar 29, 2018 4:51 pm

My Ogaden brothers always wonder and ask, whether online or in real life; why wont oromia just secede?
they have the manpower, the resources, the brave people, everything needed to be a self sufficient state.
i try to assure them that, while we oromos share the pain of all oppressed peoples, especially our neighbors; the case of oromia and the case of ''ogadenia'' are different, completely...

here's a quote indicating it:

''If Ogaden or Eritrea were detached from it, Ethiopia would merely be diminished; but if the Oromo were to detach themselves, then.... the Empire, which Menelik assembled and Haile Selassie held together, would fall apart' (Baxter 1983: 146).

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Re: Why Oromia is not like Ogadenia/Somali Kilil

Postby Khalid Ali » Thu Mar 29, 2018 5:08 pm

It's true oromos is what Unites Ethiopia. All oromos need to do is redefine Ethiopia oromize ethiopia. But oromos Is not as proud as amhara. Amhara thinks he is the king of east Africa. Oromo is more peaceful more god fearing. Oromo likes to conquer they have conquered allot of people. But when oromo sees amhara . You know who is the boss. Oromo biggest achilies heel is amhara. Oromo is smart intelligent but it needs the extreme arrogance Somalis have. Oromo is not laangaab they have the numbers the oromo in Nazareth though are very proud people the one in Addis Ababa are proud Ethiopians and speak amharic instead of afaan oromo.
I think oromo has a future in the region But oromo needs to change his way how oromo interact witb other ethnic group. I think there is a difference between oromo and somali. Oromo won't fight internally because they are farmers. Somalis are hard headed proud arrogant will never submit to any one fear no man. For example I visited harshin a city where my clan lives in hawd Ethiopia reer samatar subclan I spoke to an old man we started talking about politics about mama Russia he said war Khalid reer samatar iyo ruush yaa geesisan. And his nephew said hada reer geele laga reebo reer samatar baaa geesisan. It's the mind set of the somali that differs from other ethnic groups. I honestly believe if Somalis didn't deeply hate each other they would conquer all of Africa

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Re: Why Oromia is not like Ogadenia/Somali Kilil

Postby Waachis » Thu Mar 29, 2018 5:19 pm

It's true oromos is what Unites Ethiopia. All oromos need to do is redefine Ethiopia oromize ethiopia. But oromos Is not as proud as amhara. Amhara thinks he is the king of east Africa. Oromo is more peaceful more god fearing. Oromo likes to conquer they have conquered allot of people. But when oromo sees amhara . You know who is the boss. Oromo biggest achilies heel is amhara. Oromo is smart intelligent but it needs the extreme arrogance Somalis have. Oromo is not laangaab they have the numbers the oromo in Nazareth though at very proud people the one in Addis Ababa are proud Ethiopians and speak amharic instead of afaan oromo.
I think oromo has a future in the region But oromo news to change his way how oromo behaviour with other ethnic group. I think there is a difference between oromo and somali. Oromo won't fight internally because they are farmers. Somalis are hard headed proud arrogant will never submit to any one fear no man. For example I visited harshin a city where my clan lives reer samatar subdue clan I spoke to an old man we started talking about politics about mama Russia he said war Khalid reer samatar iyo ruush yaa geesisan. And his nephew said hada reer geele laga reebo reer samatar baaa geesisan. It's the mind set of the somali that differs from other ethnic groups. I honestly believe if Somalis didn't deeply hate each other they would conquer all of Africa

Without the Oromos, Ethiopia could not survive for a second.
I agree, a new Oromo nationalism, could or should be formed, that is inclusive of Ethiopia & Ethiopians.
OPDO has a point; they say, a larger country, Ethiopia, that has a stronger and larger economy, can provide better benefits and more opportunities, than an Independent Oromia.
Your miscalculating on the Amhara tho. The Oromo never feared amhara, nor did they see amhara as the ''boss.''
do not forget bro, for 400+ years, the amhara and tigiree could not cross the blue nile into oromo lands.
it was the europeans who came and changed the balance of power. prior to that, they could not even dream of watering their horses in oromo land, forget about conquering it, or being the ''boss'' of it.

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Re: Why Oromia is not like Ogadenia/Somali Kilil

Postby Khalid Ali » Thu Mar 29, 2018 5:24 pm

I think oromo should stick to Ethiopia and maybe Chang borders of oromia why not annex more amhara land. You have more land than amhara and you are more numerous than amhara. Bang more of their nice pretty girls and annex them further. I never really liked oromos who were not confident and wanted to run away from Ethiopia. Eritrean were a minority in ethiopia their survival dependent on it . Oromo is majority

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Re: Why Oromia is not like Ogadenia/Somali Kilil

Postby Waachis » Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:29 pm

I think oromo should stick to Ethiopia and maybe Chang borders of oromia why not annex more amhara land. You have more land than amhara and you are more numerous than amhara. Bang more of their nice pretty girls and annex them further. I never really liked oromos who were not confident and wanted to run away from Ethiopia. Eritrean were a minority in ethiopia their survival dependent on it . Oromo is majority
If we get our equal rights, we have nothing to lose from a democratic Ethiopia.
I told hawdian this: if things worsen, i pick secession, over being ruled by others, but if ethiopia makes improvements, i choose autonomous oromia within the context of an united ethiopia.
we do not need to annex anyone's land, sir. oromia is the bread-basket of the horn.
did u hear abiy ahmed? he said forget ethiopia, oromia is enough for djibouti and eritrea too!! :)
he wasn't lying.
LOL at their pretty girls, you're a funny dude man!
Well can u blame some oromo? after all they been through, you'd be a little less confident as well, sir.
but u know whats funny? my dad and uncles were OLF members in the 1970s and 1980s, but they support one ethiopia.
they would shock many people who somehow assume all OLF members are secessionists or separatists.

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Re: Why Oromia is not like Ogadenia/Somali Kilil

Postby Khalid Ali » Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:40 pm

If you are majority in a country you don't Need to run away from your own country. Demographics Is everything but you need to make Ethiopia an empire with oromo principles and gadaa values I think the shewan oromo and wollo would understand this I think wolloge and arsi are more secessionist and don't have the confidence to build a super empire like in the days Emperor haile selassie king of kings lion of judah conquering lion of sabea and Judea.

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Re: Why Oromia is not like Ogadenia/Somali Kilil

Postby Waachis » Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:14 am

Good point. The Oromo should rule Ethiopia and also have its own oromo National Guard. 200k oromo troops stationed mainly on the various borders. When you have riches you must have the necessary Force to protect if.
Interesting is wallaga submitted peacefully and many became Christians. And became an extension of the shoan royal house. But, nobody can tolerate being ruled by others for long. Seeing your resources benefit others. Arsi warriors almost killed Menelik in a battle in 1883. He barely escaped. The arsi clan has a rich history. Anyway, if you just be patient, you'll see more oromo victories. The Oromo have never been this United since the 16th century when they were making Amara and tigiree cry and stay above the blue Nile lol

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Re: Why Oromia is not like Ogadenia/Somali Kilil

Postby Adali » Fri Mar 30, 2018 4:20 am

waachis does Oromia have a parliament and political parties within the region ?

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Re: Why Oromia is not like Ogadenia/Somali Kilil

Postby AwRastaale » Fri Mar 30, 2018 6:28 am

True they are not the same. Oromia is Ethiopia and Oromia conquered Abyssinia but then Abyssinian Oromo conquered Oromo Oromia again and gave birth to Ethiopia.

Ethiopia is the creation of Oromo but Ogaden is in the same league as Omo Valley and Gameblla—-none contributors hence why they are not added to EPRDF coalition. They can’t even put their names for PM let alone become one but today Oromo is PM.

Ethiopia is against separatists not Oromo. Oromo is Ethiopia and Ethiopia is Oromo.

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Re: Why Oromia is not like Ogadenia/Somali Kilil

Postby OAF » Fri Mar 30, 2018 7:24 pm

True they are not the same. Oromia is Ethiopia and Oromia conquered Abyssinia but then Abyssinian Oromo conquered Oromo Oromia again and gave birth to Ethiopia.

Ethiopia is the creation of Oromo but Ogaden is in the same league as Omo Valley and Gameblla—-none contributors hence why they are not added to EPRDF coalition. They can’t even put their names for PM let alone become one but today Oromo is PM.

Ethiopia is against separatists not Oromo. Oromo is Ethiopia and Ethiopia is Oromo.
Which leauge are you in mr idoor? Your neither oromo or ogaden or even ethiopian to start with and yet your sucking the habesha cock day and night to prevent being under somalia again.

Stick to your northern desert idoor triangle.

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Re: Why Oromia is not like Ogadenia/Somali Kilil

Postby Waachis » Fri Mar 30, 2018 9:06 pm

waachis does Oromia have a parliament and political parties within the region ?



Yes. There's an oromia state parliament and a federal parliament. Oromo makeup the majority of the federal parliament. Oromia police (at least 200,000 strong) are under oromia government too in addition to the local militias.
The opdo is the only official part but ofc also operates and has a large fanbase especially in adama and its surrounding areas.

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Re: Why Oromia is not like Ogadenia/Somali Kilil

Postby Khalid Ali » Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:55 am

Oromia is indeed Ethiopia 'ras ali. Ras gobana The Tulanme oromos were all oromos who made Ethiopia great. It was oromos who made Ethiopia great.

Eritreans are Abyssinians and habasha But oromos are more Ethiopians than Eritrean. Eritrea broke away but oromo is the heartland of Ethiopia


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