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How time has changed: Former Al shababs now gov supporters lol

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How time has changed: Former Al shababs now gov supporters lol

Postby AbkoowDhiblaawe » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:32 pm



Cajiiib. Qabiil culture is so strong in Somalia. Reerkan
Murusade was fully part of Al shabab since 2007. The only clan where it’s member vacated Ceelbur when gov captured it in 2014 and followed Al shabab. Even got called an Ansaar qabiil by late godane. Are now Nabad iyo Nolol. These people Hate hiiraab with a passion.

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Re: How time has changed: Former Al shababs now gov supporters lol

Postby original dervish » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:36 pm

Subhanna'llah........even folk leaving Al shabaab is interpreted as a negative development by the spoilers. :snoop:
Sometimes I think to myself.....these people don't deserve a functioning country.

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Re: How time has changed: Former Al shababs now gov supporters lol

Postby AbkoowDhiblaawe » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:42 pm

Subhanna'llah........even folk leaving Al shabaab is interpreted as a negative development by the spoilers. :snoop:
Sometimes I think to myself.....these people don't deserve a functioning country.
Wtf. How can a qabiil be Al shabab n as soon as a clanmember gets pm turn into wadani? With that mindset should Hiiraab turn into Al shabab now lol? You are calling me a spoiler just for talking. While defending ppl that actively supported Al shabab carrying out crimes. Are you even hearing you self u confused dhulo?



Ceelbuur in 2015 not a single soul living there. They all made hijra with Al shabab. This is exactly y i don’t take nabad ito nolol supporters serious.

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Re: How time has changed: Former Al shababs now gov supporters lol

Postby XaajiXumbo » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:01 pm

I can only advice Beesha Hiraab to consolidate Galmudug and Hirshabelle because for them its those 2 states that will empower them politically in Somalia, murursade and marehan are langaab people with no actual real power, they are like the passing wind, they are here temporarily and tomrrow they will be back under the control of Hiraab, anyway its very foolish of the murursade to show their hate for Hiraab, tomorrow after Kheri the will regret immensely.

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Re: How time has changed: Former Al shababs now gov supporters lol

Postby original dervish » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:43 pm

First of all.....some of your biggest districts are al shabaab strongholds......shall I now accuse all Abgaal of being pro shabaab?
The Tamil tigers forced villagers to flee with them as govt forces overran their positions.
Isis use a similar tactic.....this is what happened in Ceelbuur......the people were forced to flee with shabaab.

Now the Murasade can speak freely......they've said they support the Govt.
PS for almost 20 years there was only "Hiraab"....no other qabil, no foreigners and no shabaab and yet you did nothing.
Now we have a recognised govt you want to unite Hiraab to cause mischief.......fear Allah (swt).

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Re: How time has changed: Former Al shababs now gov supporters lol

Postby jalaaludin5 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:47 pm

Nabad iyo nolol is a joke. They all behave like BLM and no different than clanish-groupies.

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Re: How time has changed: Former Al shababs now gov supporters lol

Postby AbkoowDhiblaawe » Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:15 pm

First of all.....some of your biggest districts are al shabaab strongholds......shall I now accuse all Abgaal of being pro shabaab?
The Tamil tigers forced villagers to flee with them as govt forces overran their positions.
Isis use a similar tactic.....this is what happened in Ceelbuur......the people were forced to flee with shabaab.

Now the Murasade can speak freely......they've said they support the Govt.
PS for almost 20 years there was only "Hiraab"....no other qabil, no foreigners and no shabaab and yet you did nothing.
Now we have a recognised govt you want to unite Hiraab to cause mischief.......fear Allah (swt).
Ahmed godane refered them as ”Ansaar” clan same with fuad shongole. While Abgaal, HG, MJ n others got called murtadeen clans.

Secondly, how come their districts are Shabab HQs? In Galgadud its ceelbuur. In LS it’s Buulo Mareer. In Mogadishu most mortars gets thrown from Dayniile and Gubta. How come only murusada got ”forced” why havent we heard, rahanwein being forced? HG being forced? Abgaal being forced? Xawadle being forced? Ogaden being forced?

Apart from Ruun nirgood n Ceeldheer district. Where else do Shabab controll Abgaal land? N If Al shabab had support from Abgaal the whole north of MOG would be infested with Shabab. But shabab operates in the districts in Warshadaha Rd. N we all know cida ku badan meelahaas..

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Re: How time has changed: Former Al shababs now gov supporters lol

Postby grandpakhalif » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:03 pm

Murursade is the leader of Hawiye now, get used to it. Your abgaal ate good for 8 years and was PM under Cabdullahi Yusuf. stop being greedy

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Re: How time has changed: Former Al shababs now gov supporters lol

Postby Django » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:29 pm

Grand pa is one of them he still is wearing his belt just incase Farmajo is removed from office he will qarxis himself😂

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Re: How time has changed: Former Al shababs now gov supporters lol

Postby Voltage » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:57 pm

One of the biggest causes for support for Al Shabab has been disgruntled clans feeling slighted by the politics of the country. Part of rectifying that includes widening political participation and removing the sense that people do not have a stake in the future of the country.

I applaud Farmaajo for increasing political participation and taking a chisel to the mentality that only "some" clans can compete for leadership. Here we see the dividends where one of the clans that served as one of the biggest footsoldiers for Shabaab are now leaving its ranks and joining the government support base.

We should continue to increase political participation across all corners to take away the motivation for clans and communities to find common cause with Shabab.

Increased political participation = less support for Shabab = win for Somalia

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Re: How time has changed: Former Al shababs now gov supporters lol

Postby AbkoowDhiblaawe » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:42 pm

One of the biggest causes for support for Al Shabab has been disgruntled clans feeling slighted by the politics of the country. Part of rectifying that includes widening political participation and removing the sense that people do not have a stake in the future of the country.

I applaud Farmaajo for increasing political participation and taking a chisel to the mentality that only "some" clans can compete for leadership. Here we see the dividends where one of the clans that served as one of the biggest footsoldiers for Shabaab are now leaving its ranks and joining the government support base.

We should continue to increase political participation across all corners to take away the motivation for clans and communities to find common cause with Shabab.

Increased political participation = less support for Shabab = win for Somalia
Loool. Voltage you are one funny guy. Farmaajo waa la keensaday. Kheire and Ducaale islow financed his election campaign and as a result kheire was given pm position n ducaale a minister position.

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Re: How time has changed: Former Al shababs now gov supporters lol

Postby Voltage » Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:16 am

One of the biggest causes for support for Al Shabab has been disgruntled clans feeling slighted by the politics of the country. Part of rectifying that includes widening political participation and removing the sense that people do not have a stake in the future of the country.

I applaud Farmaajo for increasing political participation and taking a chisel to the mentality that only "some" clans can compete for leadership. Here we see the dividends where one of the clans that served as one of the biggest footsoldiers for Shabaab are now leaving its ranks and joining the government support base.

We should continue to increase political participation across all corners to take away the motivation for clans and communities to find common cause with Shabab.

Increased political participation = less support for Shabab = win for Somalia
Loool. Voltage you are one funny guy. Farmaajo waa la keensaday. Kheire and Ducaale islow financed his election campaign and as a result kheire was given pm position n ducaale a minister position.
Abti, shimbir baa dhuustay. Haye?
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Re: How time has changed: Former Al shababs now gov supporters lol

Postby AbkoowDhiblaawe » Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:22 am

One of the biggest causes for support for Al Shabab has been disgruntled clans feeling slighted by the politics of the country. Part of rectifying that includes widening political participation and removing the sense that people do not have a stake in the future of the country.

I applaud Farmaajo for increasing political participation and taking a chisel to the mentality that only "some" clans can compete for leadership. Here we see the dividends where one of the clans that served as one of the biggest footsoldiers for Shabaab are now leaving its ranks and joining the government support base.

We should continue to increase political participation across all corners to take away the motivation for clans and communities to find common cause with Shabab.

Increased political participation = less support for Shabab = win for Somalia
Loool. Voltage you are one funny guy. Farmaajo waa la keensaday. Kheire and Ducaale islow financed his election campaign and as a result kheire was given pm position n ducaale a minister position.
Abti, shimbir baa dhuustay. Haye?
Ok bro. Either you are in denial or extremely ignorant.

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Re: How time has changed: Former Al shababs now gov supporters lol

Postby Voltage » Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:25 am

I'm neither bro.

All I have done is give you a really good reason that is widely understood in conflict ridden places.

Shabaab typically takes strong support from minority clans and/or slighted clans. It's a well known fact.

Murusade weren't more Shabaab because of ideology but because wax bay tabanayeen aka they had grievances. All clans that have political grievances become anti-government.

As a result of that we must increase political participation, have equitable distribution of power sharing, and make every clan a stakeholder in governance.

The change of Murusade, the idea of having Abgaal PMs and President to pacify Mogadishu since they were thr majority of the city is all part of that. Do you think Abgaal would not have been Shabaab had they not been empowered in the push to bring the government to Mogadishu?

All Somali clans are similar in that scope. Let's not point fingers at one.

Rather we should applaud that Murusade is now making the jump that Abgaal did under Sheekh Sharif.

The moral of the story is you gice people a piece of the pie and they will appreciate the pie.

You deny people a piece of the pie and they could care less what happens to the pie.

Rule 101 of Somali state building :up:

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Re: How time has changed: Former Al shababs now gov supporters lol

Postby original dervish » Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:30 am

This is exactly the case with LS. :) :up:


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