Federal Government of Somalia - Demographic (Population, Education) Update on Somalia, Somaliland at the top.

[Even123]

http://moesomalia.net/somali/wp-content ... 1-july.pdf

Populations per regions and states according to the Government of Somalia and UN
State Region Population % of national
total

Jubaland
Lower Juba 489,307 3.97%
Middle Juba 362,921 2.95%
Gedo 508,405 4.13%
Sub total 1,360,633 11.05%

Southwest
Bakool 367,226 2.98%
Bay 792,182 6.43%
Lower Shabelle 1,202,219 9.76%
Sub total 2,361,627 19.2%

Hirshabelle
Middle Shabelle 516,036 4.19%
Hiraan 520,685 4.23%
Sub total 1,036,721 8.42%


Galmudug
Mudug 717,863 5.83%
Galgaduud 569,434 4.62%
Sub total 1,287,297 10.45%


Banadir Total
Total 1,650,227 13.40%

Central South Somalia sub-total 7,696,505 62.49%


Somaliland
Toghdeer
Awdal
Gabiley
Sool
Sanaag
sub-total 3,508,180 28.48%

Puntland
Bari
Nugaal
sub-total 1,112,209 9.03%





Total All Somalia Region according to the Government of Somalia and UN

National Total 12,316,894 100.00%

[Even123]

Not bad, Somaliland is at the top at the Education sector according to the Government of Somalia and also their population is the highest among federal states!

[Khalid Ali]

The reason we are doing so much better is because we are not part of Somalia. Somalia is a liability to us

[Nomand]

Why is mudug part of galmudug and not puntland?

Sool and sanaag should also be shared.

As for galgaduud this is alo shared. But expected more in banaadir.

[Khalid Ali]

Nomand the majority of sanaag and sool are under Somaliland control. Puntland afkay ka sheegata uun. No one can change the borders of 1884

Mudug is divided galkayo is split in middle it can't be puntland it's as much galmudug its better for mudugto be galmudug. Cumar maxamuud sacad leelkase to join all in galmudug. Puntland to be nugaal and bari. Because galmudug cant be only galguduud and half mudug. You need two gobols to be federal state or more

[Nomand]

KhAlid Ali you are right that Majority of Sool and Sanaag is in the hands for Somaliland forces, but 90 percent of Sool is Harti and at least 50 percent of sanaag is also harti.


A lot of clans also settle in Mudug which includes Marehan and Dir. Galmudug is a paper state it only has two functioning cities Caabudwaaq and cadaado. plus no one settles in middle jubba so that stat on middle jubba is fake. just look at a google map and see middle jubba no one is there. Gedo population is at least 700000

[original dervish]

Banadir should be at least 3 million.

[Even123]

Nomand the majority of sanaag and sool are under Somaliland control. Puntland afkay ka sheegata uun. No one can change the borders of 1884

Mudug is divided galkayo is split in middle it can't be puntland it's as much galmudug its better for mudugto be galmudug. Cumar maxamuud sacad leelkase to join all in galmudug. Puntland to be nugaal and bari. Because galmudug cant be only galguduud and half mudug. You need two gobols to be federal state or more

Well said Khalid,

As we all know since Somalia has adopted federal system, puntland has been trying to turn that system into qabiil system, where north mudug, sool and sanaag join puntland because of qabiil shared kinship, but fortunately the Government of Somalia and every political body UN, EU AU and USA are very much against that, because they all believe that what puntland is doing will open Pandora's box, where every clan will claim to expand and annex because of his qabiil living in another state (Like Hawiye and Raxanweyne, will claim half of jubooyinka and Gedo because Hawiye's and raxanweyne live there), the action of turning federal system into a qabiil state is dangerous and prone to civil war.

Thankfully in the eyes of Government of Somalia, EU,AU, USA and UN, Mudug belongs to Galmudug and Sool and Sanaag belongs to Somaliland, the constitution (Abdi Qeybdiid is the Head) will be completed this year and will state that puntland is only Nugaal and Bari, mark my words.


If mudug is split then every regions will be splitted because of that, hence why everyone agrees that Mudug will have no matter what have a 1 maamul, since Galmudug owns 75% of Mudug its no brainier that Mudug will go to them, a city like Galkacyo cannot be split because of puntlands qabyaalad,

[Jabuutawi]

According to Qaldan One (Khalid) Isaq bin Ahmed al-Basrawi via Al-Urdun by way of Medina are 4 million. Ku noqo source-ka.

Also, according to Qaldan Two (rest of Al Basrawis) Isaq is 80% of Sland. That means, using these figures, 700,000 are split between rest of Slanders .

Finally, going back to Qaldan One, Ciise are only 200,000 in the whole Horn, not withstanding Djibouti, Sitti and Dir Dhabe's numbers

[Khalid Ali]

Jabuutaawi there are allot of isaaqs who live in Ethiopia and Kenya two and in qurbaha. Isaaq population is around 4 million if you add somaliand itoobiya Kenya middle east England Sweden population. Ciise is not that much in qurbaha and not in Kenya ciise population is mostly shinile Djibouti and xafat ciise in diredawa.

[Jabuutawi]

Khalid, share your source. But be that as it may, aren’t you short-changing rest of Slanders with your unsubstantiated claims?

You have no presence in Ethiopia but few grazing area and a former refugee camp turn town. Where is your regional and federal representation in Ethiopia? I have both.

That little acreage in Kenya iskaba dhaf, my sub-sub-sub-sub clan has more land than that In Ethiopia.

Dir Dhabe is split by the Dachatu River, we live to the east and north of that, pass the airport, a city within a city of its own. Gurgura, their fear of Ciise, welcomed Oromos on ther side of the river, west and south, plus illegal confiscation of land by Mengistu’s Derg after the ‘77-‘78 war changed the demographics of Dir Dhabe. Ciise has presence in France and Belgium, not to mention Ottawa. Sitti and Djibouti don’t need further explanation.

I have credible information I am north of 1.5 million, with more land than you. 4 million al-Basrawis? Source?

[Khalid Ali]

Ciise kid whats your argument ciise is very small clan saaxib are you even larger than gadabuursi. How can you say you are not in Ethiopian Two Isaaq subclans garxajis and habarawal make the bulk of the isaaqs in Ethiopia. The harar isaaqs and the isaaqs in diredawa are not even included in tirada..


Garhajis - Isaaq Areas
AWARE Woreda ( Rabaaso & Daroor districts ) - 132,149
MISRAK GASHAMO Woreda - 89,933
DANOT - 48,890

Total = 270.972




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Habar Awal - Isaaq Areas

HARSHIN Woreda - 82,884
½ of KEBRI BEYAH Woreda - 102.353

Total - 185.237


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Isaaq Total Population Inside Ethiopia CSA 2005 National Ethiopia Statistics = 456.209

And that's 2005 I am sure it has increased now

That's close to what half a million the isaaq population is .much larger than the ciise population In Djibouti

Isaaqs are huge in Kenya in places like isiolo in islii there are allot.of.isaaq sijuwis in Kenya

Belgium and France ciiise is very small .
You know this to isaaqs dominate entire districts in London Stockholm sheffield cardif mayor's of entire subtowns.

Did you just claim you have more land isaaq. .ciise has more territory than isaaqs is that what you claiming. War waaba waali also the reer jabuuti in Ottawa I came across walahi majority were gadabuursi and we're all reer jabuuti there aren't much qurbajoog ciise.sxb

As for Ethiopia politics we have dominated Ethiopia kilil politics in the 1990s. And we're United nation ambassadors for Ethiopia. Even in your djibouti we held the foreign ministry in the early 2000s. I didn't even add the isaaqs in djibouti which is also a pretty decent number. And we are well represented financially there I like the small djibouti might be going there in November again cartese. And hotel kempski very nice nice and the beach and my cute Portuguese waitress can't wait.

[Jabuutawi]

Let me ask you this, who else is demonstrating in Soomali-Galbeed but Ciise? Do you think if we didn't have big d.ick the region would've left us alone? I don't care how many presidents or vice presidents the region has, or which clan is more, why are no other Somalis but Ciise demonstrating? Fear is real but not to us. We have the big stick and the numbers.

There are, according to some estimates, 8.5 million Somalis in Ethiopia, what % do you think is Ciise, 10%, 15%, 25%, 35%, 40%? My original estimate was conservative, even if I low ball at 15%, that is about 1.3 million. Let us also be real, there is no longer Quartier Quatre et Trois in Djibouti, every one went back to their respective areas. 85% to 90% of Somalis in Djibouti are Ciise. I don't mention Sland, places like Saylac, Lughaya, Xarirad, Garisa, etc.

Oh, yeah, wasirka cadaalada ee mamul-goboleedka Somaliland wa nin Ciise. Teda kale Ciise 8 xildhiban baan ku laynahay dawlada federalka Soomaaliya .

Portugues waitress? I find Portugues, Spanish, Greeks, Italians, all southern Mediterraneas, including Arabs, unattractive, hairy beasts.

Anyway, I do not want to hijack this thread but if you are 4 million that means you folks should switch with Puntaland about the old saying, "Inta madax madow iyo majertayn ba siman."

Another saying, though probably your folks twist thinking we want to be faranchi, but "Ninka cad camalkisa cadeeyay wa Ciise.", meaning all Ciise knows is other Ciise he encounters, thus plenitude of Ciise.

[Khalid Ali]

I dont know why you demonstrating..Maybe because your unhappy with the kilil admin. It's pretty useless to demonstrate in a police state such as Ethiopia it's pretty useless second it doesn't proof your numbers. Besides ciise has to worry about diredawa the galla invasion of that city is real.. as for us we don't do much gaan. But we are.very numberous and influential. Besides numbers only doesn't do.the magic. You need quality. You can be 50.million and be useless. We try to focus our dominance on Somaliland then we move towards Ethiopia that is our strategy. Xariirad is now pretty much gadabuursi same with seylac you guys put all.for eggs in djibouti.. You got 8 xildhibaans because of the 4.5. We got around 30 laakin these sellouts masheegano.

[Saeedlfc]

Why is mudug part of galmudug and not puntland?

Sool and sanaag should also be shared.

As for galgaduud this is alo shared. But expected more in banaadir.

Mudug OK but how in the world is Galgaduud shared?