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1868: the destinies of Abyssinia were in the hands of Oromos, and now history repeats itself!

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1868: the destinies of Abyssinia were in the hands of Oromos, and now history repeats itself!

Postby Waachis » Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:28 am

Published in 1868, an account of the Oromos, from the perspective of an Englishmen...

’'The destinies of Abyssinia are for the present in the hands of the Oromos. In England is to have any more dealings with Abyssinia, they will be the other ‘’party,’’ those fierce and daring Mohammedan tribes who have long occupied the fairest provinces intervening between Northern Abyssinia and SHoa, and who have made of Enarea and Kaffa, Oromo republics and kingdoms. A long time ago, when Mr. Plowden first went on his strange and fatal mission, he found it hard to understand and disentangle the records of the dismembered royalty of Ethiopia; and since then the barbarous, romantic episode of the conquests, the rule, the wild enthusiastic visions, the despair, and the death of King Theodore (Tewodros), has been added to the bewildering history. The utter extinction in Abyssinia of the Christian faith is to be looked for, as a not distant result of the present ‘’innings’’ of the Oromos; but it would need a fanatic to feel regret for the substitution of El Islam, considering the utter degradation into which Christianity has fallen in those parts, and the hopeless failure of all missionary efforts.

The Oromos—of whom Mr. Plowden told us, in his official correspondence, laid before Parliament in August, 1866, that their men are brave and honest, and their women are beautiful, in all which particulars they present a contrast to the late king’s turbulent subjects; so strong a contrast, that one wonders a man of his character did not go over to his own enemies-are divided into numerous tribes, of which the Wollo Oromos are the fiercest and most restless. Among them are to be found the traditional fine horses and noble horse-manship which were among our few former associations with Abyssinia,--taking rank with Bruce’s living beefsteak, but pleasanter.

All of the Oromo country produces good horses, and all the Oromos ride well; but the Wollo horses and men bear away the palm; the former being wonderfully active, sure-footed, fearless, excellent on un-even ground, handsome, and spirited; and the latter splendid riders, with perfect mastery over their horses, and great fondness for them. The name given to each horse has a meaning, and great men and warriors are generally better known by the names of their horses than their own. In the country of the Wollo Oromos, the men frequently address each other as ‘’father of such a horse.’’ If one of them is so poor as not to posses a horse, he takes the name of one as his war-cry.
In battle, the horses know the nature of the contest as well as their riders, and not only turn at the right time, without the use of the bridle, and obey each signal, for speed or otherwise, with wonderful sagacity, but avoid the lances thrown in their direction by moving from side to side adroitly. The country of Amhara produces as many horses as the Wollo-Oromos country, but those of the Amhara are not so fine, and are somewhat differently managed. The Amhara master likes to have his horse always with him; he has no separate stable, but is tied between two posts, facing the centre of the apartment, so that the first sound one hears is the tinkling of bells suspended from his neck.
He is fed with barley flour, mixed with salt and water, and, if thin, with linseed and nook; the plant from which they extract oil. A recipe for fattening, considered infallible, is the dried meat of the malkoko, a little animal found in the rocks of the river, and neither rabbit, rat, nor guinea-pig, but something like all three. The Amhara people exercise their horses very little, and they are always too fat to please European taste. In the country of the Wollo Oromos, the system is different, and Semien is a colder country. Owing to the high state of cultivation, grass cannot be procured except by the very superior chiefs, and the horse is fed upon barley straw and barley grain as much as he pleases to eat, and this all the year round; while the corn is growing, if the owner be rich, he perhaps gives him from time to time a bundle of the green stalks. He drinks occasionally at the salt springs found in these districts; he is kept in constant and active exercise. The Oromo and his horse are as inseparable as the Arab and his ‘’steed,’’ so renowned in history and fiction.

To leave the Amhara country, and cross the Blue Nile into that of the Oromo country, is to exchange, within a few hours, the climate of Italy for that of Bengal. The crossing of the Nile is not a pleasant operation, as it has to be performed by swimming over on the back of a sheep, attended by numerous natives with torches, while others line the banks, shouting, and throwing stones at the crocodiles. Arrived on the Oromo side of the Nile, the scenery changes utterly, assuming an almost English aspect. No more sterile table-land and terrible ravines, but cultivated ground in well-marked divisions; magnificent trees, with graceful foliage and wide shade; neat beehive-shaped huts, and fine horses feeding tranquilly; while here and there a warlike-looking Oromo leaned peacefully on his spear.’’

[Every Saturday, Vol. 6: A Journal of Choice Reading, Selected From Foreign Current Literature; July to December, 1868 (Classic Reprint)
Pages 508-510]

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Re: 1868: the destinies of Abyssinia were in the hands of Oromos, and now history repeats itself!

Postby original dervish » Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:56 am

With all due respect......very few people on snet are interested in Oromo history......it means nothing to us we are Somali's. :som:
The only reason to mention Ethiopia is with respect to it's illegal occupation of Somali Galbeed. :som:

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Re: 1868: the destinies of Abyssinia were in the hands of Oromos, and now history repeats itself!

Postby zidane88 » Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:04 pm

After toppling Abdi, now, the Gaala boy positioned himself as an Oromo spokesperson, or may i say Oromo advertiser, while in reality Federal Oromo troops have been detained in Mekele. He thought mission accomplished, time to sell Oromo Government. Whatever you write here won't change the fact that Somalis know Oromo as bunch of primitive, machete-weilding, child-burners, civilian butchering cowards who can't take any army. Go and enter mekele if your kin are hereoes. Stop this baseless propaganda no one interests it.

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Re: 1868: the destinies of Abyssinia were in the hands of Oromos, and now history repeats itself!

Postby Khalid Ali » Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:14 pm

1868 was when king tedros led Ethiopia galla didn't lead them where do you get that history from I think this is galla boost history. Just because amhara were feuding doesn't mean gallas were leading

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Re: 1868: the destinies of Abyssinia were in the hands of Oromos, and now history repeats itself!

Postby Waachis » Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:29 pm

1868 was when king tedros led Ethiopia galla didn't lead them where do you get that history from I think this is galla boost history. Just because amhara were feuding doesn't mean gallas were leading
tewodros died in 1868, lonely, powerless, surrounded on all sides by fierce oromo warriors.
he tried to escape magdala, but the oromo horsemen pushed him back
what a sad fate-oh well!

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Re: 1868: the destinies of Abyssinia were in the hands of Oromos, and now history repeats itself!

Postby Waachis » Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:33 pm

After toppling Abdi, now, the Gaala boy positioned himself as an Oromo spokesperson, or may i say Oromo advertiser, while in reality Federal Oromo troops have been detained in Mekele. He thought mission accomplished, time to sell Oromo Government. Whatever you write here won't change the fact that Somalis know Oromo as bunch of primitive, machete-weilding, child-burners, civilian butchering cowards who can't take any army. Go and enter mekele if your kin are hereoes. Stop this baseless propaganda no one interests it.
ogadeni idiot,

i have always loved posting oromo history. just because you envy us, and hate us, doesn't mean anything.
and those federal troops ain't all oromo. there is no pure oromo army. there is the federal which is about 35% or so, oromo, the rest are other ethiopians.
and the PM just sent out an arrest warrant for your boss, getachew assefa, the man who forced abdi to kill somalis and oromos.
the PM is arresting the men who held the ogadenis and other somalis hostage for years upon years. u should be more grateful.
the entire world knows somalis to be what? terrorists? pirates? unable to run a state because of clan warfare? warlords? etc?
so i would not talk, if i were u!

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Re: 1868: the destinies of Abyssinia were in the hands of Oromos, and now history repeats itself!

Postby Khalid Ali » Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:38 pm

Waachis how come gallas didnt crown a king of themselves when tedros was defeated by the English
He killed him self. If gallas had an army and we're strong they should have build a kingdom.

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Re: 1868: the destinies of Abyssinia were in the hands of Oromos, and now history repeats itself!

Postby Waachis » Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:44 pm

Waachis how come gallas didnt crown a king of themselves when tedros was defeated by the English
He killed him self. If gallas had an army and we're strong they should have build a kingdom.
many oromo rallied behind menelik and gobana dacce
for example, when yohannes was passing through shoa, and ravaging it,
gobana ambushed his army and took over 1000 rifles
but he accepted menelik's rule, they grew up together in shoa, speaking amharic, and afaan oromo,
eating injera, playing with each other...
remember menelik was protected by the wollo oromo clan, when he escaped from magdala,
the wollo could have killed menelik if they hated him, but they didn't.
shoa and wollo were allies against tewodros and even other oromo claims to the throne in wollo

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Re: 1868: the destinies of Abyssinia were in the hands of Oromos, and now history repeats itself!

Postby Khalid Ali » Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:54 pm

I know about ras gobanna dhache he was a fine general and he should have become king but it didn't happen i can say gallas were part of the solomonic king dom but only by culture shewan oromo are culturally amhara tulama and even your macca clan.
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Re: 1868: the destinies of Abyssinia were in the hands of Oromos, and now history repeats itself!

Postby Waachis » Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:02 pm

I know about ras gobanna dhache he was a fine general and he should have become king but it didn't happen a can say gallas were part of the solomonic king dom but only by culture
indeed he was a war genius man. it's thanks to him that ethiopia is as big as it is.
the somali region were brought about through raids by ras makonen, haile selassie's father, and agreements he made with warring somali clans there.

btw-how many isaaq are in ethiopia? where do they live?
all i ever hear is dir and ogaden but not about other clans.
and do u support the new president?
pm abiy didn't put him there, just making sure u know.
and in 2020, elections will take place in somali region, and all over the country of ethiopia

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Re: 1868: the destinies of Abyssinia were in the hands of Oromos, and now history repeats itself!

Postby Khalid Ali » Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:07 pm

We Isaaq fought Ethiopia in the 13 12 century and in the 16 century but we also traded very well

Isaaq live in the hawd and reserve area
The somali kilil was divided into ogaden region and hawd and reserve area. Our region in ethiopia was part of the British empire But it was later given to haile selassie
We live in hararghe region I am from harshin which is in the jigjiga region my mother family are from aware dhagaxbuur region we mostly border the ogaden reer Isaaq of the maxamad subeer.

Ahmed abiye so.good so far he is far better than haile mariam deselgn who was a tigre stooge.
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Re: 1868: the destinies of Abyssinia were in the hands of Oromos, and now history repeats itself!

Postby zidane88 » Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:22 pm

Gaal boy, what history? the history of "gaala na shinti yashanafallow" that's how your people were treated. What hsitory you have while the country uses the language of 27% Amhara instead of 35% Oromo, and you're comparing yourself with 6% Somalis well known for their opposition against any habesha with the exception of Abdi Iley. Back in the day, Educated Oromo individuals used to hide their identity and claimed of being Amhara. Are you trying to portay Oromos as elites to the young S/netters. "minim sow aygaladhum gaala dhamo" "no one can kill a man even Gaala" was the famous phrase in 70s. It was the first time in Ethiopian history that Oromo language were used in Oromo regions under EPRDF regime, before that you were outcasts. You're only the rope being played of tug-off war by Amhara and Tigre, nothing else.
You'll soon realise the true colour of your Gaala-boy Abiye as he's working for Amhara interests and should be thrown under the bus. They're already potraying Oromos as primitives, and all minorities in Ethiopia are in waiting to return the favour of what your mindless mobs did to them.

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Re: 1868: the destinies of Abyssinia were in the hands of Oromos, and now history repeats itself!

Postby Waachis » Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:36 pm

Gaal boy, what history? the history of "gaala na shinti yashanafallow" that's how your people were treated. What hsitory you have while the country uses the language of 27% Amhara instead of 35% Oromo, and you're comparing yourself with 6% Somalis well known for their opposition against any habesha with the exception of Abdi Iley. Back in the day, Educated Oromo individuals used to hide their identity and claimed of being Amhara. Are you trying to portay Oromos as elites to the young S/netters. "minim sow aygaladhum gaala dhamo" "no one can kill a man even Gaala" was the famous phrase in 70s. It was the first time in Ethiopian history that Oromo language were used in Oromo regions under EPRDF regime, before that you were outcasts. You're only the rope being played of tug-off war by Amhara and Tigre, nothing else.
You'll soon realise the true colour of your Gaala-boy Abiye as he's working for Amhara interests and should be thrown under the bus. They're already potraying Oromos as primitives, and all minorities in Ethiopia are in waiting to return the favour of what your mindless mobs did to them.
doqonkii ogaden boy,

What history? the same history that you envy and wish you had.
while your people were seen as just helping ethiopia have a buffer between us and the rest of their colonies in the horn;
oromos were seen as, and acted as, an integral part of ethiopia.
Ras GugSa, Ras Marye, Ras Dori, Iyaos, etc, oromos were kings and king-makers in ethiopian/abyssinian history: what about you doqonkii ogaden?
and u have been reading a lot of tigrai online, i can tell. because that's all propaganda and false sh1t you're spewing here.
my people were speaking their language, publicly, and privately, way before eprdf was in existence.
but, keep telling urself lies, if that makes u feel better.
be honest-you envy pm abiy and oromos-because they not only freed ethiopia-they freed your ungrateful ass and region.
abdi and tplf generals were f-king ur mom, sister, aunt, etc, and treating ur state as tigray #2, and even doing things there, that they wouldn't dare do in tigray: AND YOU WILLINGLY TOOK IT, AND DID NOTHING ABOUT IT.
then here comes qeerroo to save the day. they led pm abiy to smashing abdi, jailing him, kicking his ass, and freeing your region.
now onlf, everyone, is openly discussing their future in ethiopia, thanks to changes oromo blood brought about.
but we do not expect thanks from ungrateful fools aka doqonkii ogaden

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Re: 1868: the destinies of Abyssinia were in the hands of Oromos, and now history repeats itself!

Postby zidane88 » Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:56 pm

You supported Amhara by removing Tigre and its allies, you haven't done anything for Somalis, the only thing you did was butchered them in their droves, displaced them, and now trying to establish Gaala's next puppet, Fat chance. As far as ONLF is concerned, they don't want an admin under Habesha of any kind, they want succession...something you and your Amhara masters hardly swallow. You know nothing about the way things are in the region, you keep repeating the same bs that Oromo nationalist like Jawar fed you. If you want people to take Abiy serious let him bring into justice Lemma megersa, Jawar Mohamed, Geatchaw Asefa, beacuse he can't. Actually Getachew fled to South sudan as the Federal army sent for his arrest had been arrested themselves :lol:

The Gaala boy have even started back-pedalling after saying 5% the share of Somalis, now, listen his latest speech, "it is in the hands of Somalis , and we shall be doing whatever that they are pleased"

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Re: 1868: the destinies of Abyssinia were in the hands of Oromos, and now history repeats itself!

Postby Waachis » Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:43 pm

You supported Amhara by removing Tigre and its allies, you haven't done anything for Somalis, the only thing you did was butchered them in their droves, displaced them, and now trying to establish Gaala's next puppet, Fat chance. As far as ONLF is concerned, they don't want an admin under Habesha of any kind, they want succession...something you and your Amhara masters hardly swallow. You know nothing about the way things are in the region, you keep repeating the same bs that Oromo nationalist like Jawar fed you. If you want people to take Abiy serious let him bring into justice Lemma megersa, Jawar Mohamed, Geatchaw Asefa, beacuse he can't. Actually Getachew fled to South sudan as the Federal army sent for his arrest had been arrested themselves :lol:

The Gaala boy have even started back-pedalling after saying 5% the share of Somalis, now, listen his latest speech, "it is in the hands of Somalis , and we shall be doing whatever that they are pleased"
brother, u don't get it, do u?
the amhara were as oppressed as anyone in the ethiopian country.
why should you, I, or anyone for that matter, hate them?
they were miskeen, bro.
do u want to blame them, even the poor farmers living a normal and peaceful life, for the crimes of some elites of the past?
is that fair to you? is that fair in Islam? is that fair in Somali culture?
i doubt it. the somalis i know in real life would shake their heads in shame at you sir. they were, and are, very generous, and kind to all.
and it was the OROMO led government who came to Jigjiga and removed your beloved abdi illey, sir.
the same one that the somali elders were asking to face justice in addis ababa, during their meetings with the PM.
we oromos have our fair share of idiots, and flaws, but when elders come to us, we salute in respect, and pretty much obey them.
i am sure somalis too have this same culture of revering elders.
and nobody can put a puppet on the brave somalis i do not buy this, the only thing is, you're mad, because it was an oromo led govt who brought the change, instead of a change coming from within the somalis.
other wise, we all know that, oromos have no desire to rule somalis by force. we just don't want u guys to massacre the non somalis among u.
and most peace loving somalis would agree there. what abdi and heego gangster mafias did was not representative of all somalis.
we know that, for a fact. many somalis protected those poor non somali civilians and elders stood up for what is right.
if ONLF wants to secede,tell us how? do they intend to fight for 30 yrs like eritrea and win?
or use article 39, and organize a referendum within a year?


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