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thepolitical culture difference between reer wagooyi and koonfur

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thepolitical culture difference between reer wagooyi and koonfur

Postby Typhoon » Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:54 pm

they openly talk about clans iyo wax aan lo joogin in 2019
can you imagen, kheyre, farmaajo, siyaad barre, hassan sheik or sharif talking about qabyalad and using clan reffernces to make a point.

the only people that used to come to public space and talk about tribes using politics as a means was warlords like, barre hiiraale, morgan, muuse suudi, qanyare and cismaan caato
have you noticed how isaaq politicians have qabiil surnames, like cali marexaan,maxamed jamaac abgaal :shock:


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Re: thepolitical culture difference between reer wagooyi and koonfur

Postby Magaalomadax » Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:32 am

they openly talk about clans iyo wax aan lo joogin in 2019
can you imagen, kheyre, farmaajo, siyaad barre, hassan sheik or sharif talking about qabyalad and using clan reffernces to make a point.

the only people that used to come to public space and talk about tribes using politics as a means was warlords like, barre hiiraale, morgan, muuse suudi, qanyare and cismaan caato
have you noticed how isaaq politicians have qabiil surnames, like cali marexaan,maxamed jamaac abgaal :shock:

Actually maxamed jaamac abgaal is gadabursi. The reason is in the north it's normal to ask another persons clan but in the south it's a taboo to ask that question.

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Re: thepolitical culture difference between reer wagooyi and koonfur

Postby JSL3000 » Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:10 am

Faqash fix your title Somaliland is real.

Zoomalia more tribalistic but it's sugar coated like a fagget.

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Re: thepolitical culture difference between reer wagooyi and koonfur

Postby CaliBurco » Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:17 am

Meanwhile in the South, a 4.5 tribal based system exists and they use foreign armies to subdue other clans. Iska aamus, boorash aad tahay eh.

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Re: thepolitical culture difference between reer wagooyi and koonfur

Postby Typhoon » Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:25 am

Meanwhile in the South, a 4.5 tribal based system exists and they use foreign armies to subdue other clans. Iska aamus, boorash aad tahay eh.
we are like the Republican party, who use coded language like, states right, welfeer queen, law and order personal responsibility and immigrant caravan.
am not denying we use qabiil laking not in such a boorish and provincial way, bahaasha wa la dada

You start out in 1954 by saying, "Nigger, nigger, nigger." By 1968 you can't say "nigger" — that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites.

And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me — because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "Nigger, nigger."

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Re: thepolitical culture difference between reer wagooyi and koonfur

Postby JSL3000 » Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:35 am

He must not know about maxamed cali daarood every qabil supports the government.

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Re: thepolitical culture difference between reer wagooyi and koonfur

Postby wadnahadhiiga » Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:39 am

The difference is clear

One is a role model for democracy and its principles

The other one is fail state add that a very weak Dictatorship who looks up Afwayne and trying to use same dictatorship tactics.



In other words One is role model and Africa’s strongest democracy according to many: Somaliland

https://www.economist.com/the-economist ... -democracy

https://unpo.org/article/20140



The other one
The World’s Most Failed State: Somalia

https://irsocietyjcu.com/2018/01/25/the ... e-somalia/

https://www.economist.com/middle-east-a ... iled-state


Do you think the world don't see what is happening, ? they are pretty much aware of and recording every little things let me give you example

This is something i quoted from a new paper reporter who's done some comparison recently


Somaliland have Government and opposition party checks and balances
the President is elected by the people one man one vote Government and oppositions debate and have an open discussions " checks and balances. "The President Muuse Biixi even meets have a tea and listens the concerns of his Oppositions" Democracy




Somalia- Fail state skeleton Government use Ethiopians and Police to kill people and install sham election



Police are send to close the doors and not allow Opposition Parties to have siminars let alone listen to their concerns

A Dictatorship. and failed state at same time

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Re: thepolitical culture difference between reer wagooyi and koonfur

Postby theyuusuf143 » Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:28 am

The open qabyaalad is why we are more peaceful and standing on our 2 feets . We know the sure name of any thing that's alive even the camels.

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Re: thepolitical culture difference between reer wagooyi and koonfur

Postby mahoka » Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:41 am

South Somali will happily call a foreigner to settle petty tribal scores (get foreigner to kill other tribe)

A northerner will settle tribal score like men in the battlefield and then kiss and make up.....


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