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All of the elders know the true genealogies of the different tribes. Isaaq has always been dir, but I guess somnet revisionists want to distance themselves from their irir zuumale cousins.You are the plaintiff, bring the evidence supporting your claim that we are not Dir . I need solid evidence.
I can use my Dir community networks for any purposes I want, politically or militarily. That's the definition of being 'Tol'. What's the point of being tol if there is no common interests between the community or the clan.
99% of Isaaq agree with us that our genealogy goes to sheekh Isxaaq ibn Axmed buried at Maydh . Then comes you and few others mostly seeking political appointment in Italian somalia claiming to be Dirty-waqooyi contrary to centuries of tradition.You are the plaintiff, bring the evidence supporting your claim that we are not Dir . I need solid evidence.
I can use my Dir community networks for any purposes I want, politically or militarily. That's the definition of being 'Tol'. What's the point of being tol if there is no common interests between the community or the clan.
what Isaaq poet ever referred to himself as Dir??? i don't recall any isaaq poet of the classical era ever referring himself to be a descendant of blood drinking Raag Ibnu Zaag Ibnu Raam. Old isaaq were very careful and particular about genealogy it wasn't a joke or a thing to change, unlike today's generation where punch of potbellied potato heads are appointed as Caaqil and Sultans.Even isaaq poets refer to themselves as Dir. what intrest would darood have in referring to us as Dir in the jaahiliya days. Where does the maha dir linage come from because there is a Dir clan called isaaq somewhere out there.
To me it seems more that you don’t want to be Dir than us not actually being Dir. I don’t understand why would want to be a black arab. An akhdam instead of a somaal.
There are numerous published sources prior to the union which refer to the Isaaq as Dir - this is not a knew thing the Isaaq were always considered Dir by other Somali clans.What umbrella?
Isaaq is a stand alone clan, politicians created this Dir thing out of thin air after the union of Somaliland and Somalia. What is laughable is that the proponents of this Dir BS have a single piece of evidence whenever they are asked to substantiate this claim, and that is a poetic verse by some doofaar ismaacil, as if doofaar ismaaciil buraanbur is the arbiter of lineage. And if that is the case, then by the myriad Isaaq poetic verses that describe doofaar ismaacil as midgaan, then the doofaars should accept their true lineage to be midgan since it is in Isaaq poetic folklore.
Besides, the meaning of Dir in that specific verse was explained by Xplaya and Lejusticier in detail.
Isaaq not being an Arab does not automatically = Isaaq is Dir. Isaaq has always been a stand alone clan.
And where are these " sources"?There are numerous published sources prior to the union which refer to the Isaaq as Dir - this is not a knew thing the Isaaq were always considered Dir by other Somali clans.What umbrella?
Isaaq is a stand alone clan, politicians created this Dir thing out of thin air after the union of Somaliland and Somalia. What is laughable is that the proponents of this Dir BS have a single piece of evidence whenever they are asked to substantiate this claim, and that is a poetic verse by some doofaar ismaacil, as if doofaar ismaaciil buraanbur is the arbiter of lineage. And if that is the case, then by the myriad Isaaq poetic verses that describe doofaar ismaacil as midgaan, then the doofaars should accept their true lineage to be midgan since it is in Isaaq poetic folklore.
Besides, the meaning of Dir in that specific verse was explained by Xplaya and Lejusticier in detail.
Isaaq not being an Arab does not automatically = Isaaq is Dir. Isaaq has always been a stand alone clan.
You are an uneducated qurjiile midgaan, I am having a discussion with your Duriyada owners.
Piss off before I make you flee this thread too.
Never mind who considers what that is irrelevant, you consider yourself an Arab while most Isaaq believe Daarood are Oromo offshoot.You are an uneducated qurjiile midgaan, I am having a discussion with your Duriyada owners.
Piss off before I make you flee this thread too.
Uneducated?
I have a LLM from a prestigious Russell Group university yaa inan gumeed, have you finished elementary school yet? Am sure an old fart like yourself would properly never had attended school at all lol.
And this is an open forum anybody can participate!
Your midgaan langaab clan were always considered Dir by all Somali clans and they are still considered Dir hence why under the 4.5 forumala they come under Dir.
You dont.Uneducated?
I have a LLM from a prestigious Russell Group university yaa inan gumeed, have you finished elementary school yet? Am sure an old fart like yourself would properly never had attended school at all lol.
And this is an open forum anybody can participate!
Your midgaan langaab clan were always considered Dir by all Somali clans and they are still considered Dir hence why under the 4.5 forumala they come under Dir.
Tixdan ayn kugu xoojiyay sxbProud to be , Reer daahir, HJ, Isaaq,Dir, Irir, Samaale,Aji
Ku quuso qudhaanjoy. Hooyadood anakaa malyuun jeer wasna wixii aan intaa midna meel kasoo gelin. Ama buuqa ama mudaharaada .
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