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How Madoobe and so called kabalah clan tricked U.S

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How Madoobe and so called kabalah clan tricked U.S

Postby XHKS » Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:36 pm

1. (C) Summary: During a November 18 meeting with Somalia
Unit Poloff, key Ras Kamboni leaders denounced Hisbul Islam
leader Sheikh Dahir Aweys, discussed recent fighting between
the Darod/Kabalah alliance and al-Shabaab in Lower Juba and
recounted recent events. Ras Kamboni leaders said that they
were not receiving support from Aweys and that Aweys in fact
was working against them. Darod/Kabalah forces reportedly
killed over a dozen al-Shabaab fighters during recent
fighting but feared al-Shabaab was receiving reinforcements
from Bay and Bakool regions and from Mogadishu. Ras Kamboni
leaders told Poloff that an original plan, which had been
brokered with the TFG and Kenya, had involved militia
commander Ahmed Madobe and the Darod/Kabalah alliance. The
plan was scrapped, they said, when figures inside and outside
the TFG dissuaded President Sharif and the Kenyans from
working with Madobe. We are encouraging all forces
confronting al-Shabaab in Lower Juba to resist the
long-standing Somali tendency to fracture and re-align when
momentum in their favor begins to wane. End summary.

Ras Kamboni Leaders
Denounce Aweys
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2. (C) During a November 18 meeting, Madobe's
second-in-command Serar, joined by Hassan al-Turki's
son-in-law Raghe, and Madobe's foreign affairs representative
Abdiaziz recounted for Somalia Unit Poloff recent events in
Lower Juba. (Note: Madobe himself participated in the
discussion by telephone from Lower Juba. Serar had just
arrived from Lower Juba and planned to return to the region
within a few days. Raghe reportedly fell out with al-Turki
several months ago because of al-Turki's willingness to
reconcile with al-Shabaab. End note.) The group alleged that
they were receiving no money from Aweys. In fact, they said,
Aweys was undercutting them by attempting to reconcile with
al-Shabaab. Serar said that Ras Kamboni's decision to fight
al-Shabaab was taken unilaterally because it was in the
interest of the Darod/Kabalah subclan.

Fighting Recommences
--------------------

3. (C) According to the group, fighting between Darod/Kabalah
clan forces, some led by Madobe, and al-Shabaab militia in
Lower Juba resumed in mid-November when the rains stopped.
Serar said that local clan militias joined by Madobe's troops
were positioned at three fronts: Abdi Libriole, Jana Abdile,
and Xagar. The most recent fighting had occurred in Xagar,
which is located between Afmadow and Dhoble. Serar told us
that local clan militia on November 16 captured a technical
from al-Shabaab in Xagar and killed over a dozen al-Shabaab
fighters. Following the fighting, al-Shabaab was bringing in
reinforcements from Bay and Bakool regions and from
Mogadishu. Serar expressed frustration that the TFG was not
impeding the flow of al-Shabaab fighters out of Mogadishu.
Al-Shabaab leader Godane and al-Qaeda operative Harun Fazul
were in Xagar on November 17 recruiting for al-Shabaab, Serar
said. Our contacts tell us that al-Shabaab forces on November
21 took control of Afmadow. (Note: We think it is unlikely
that al-Shabaab will be able to hold Afmadow because it is
the stronghold of Madobe's subclan. End note.) Serar said
that forces confronting al-Shabaab in Lower Juba are
receiving support from the Somali diaspora and the local
community.

Madobe Cut Out
Of Kenya Plan
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4. (C) Serar said that Madobe and other Lower Juba commanders
began talking to the TFG months ago. These conversations were
kept quiet because Madobe feared that, if made public, they
might cause Hisbul Islam and al-Shabaab to join forces. In
addition, Raghe confirmed that TFG Prime Minister Sharmarke,
as Sharmarke reported to us in October, had delivered USD
50,000 to Madobe. Serar and Madobe said that the original
plan, brokered with former TFG Defense Minister Gandi, was
that the Kenyan government would train Somali advisors in

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Kenya who would then re-enter Lower Juba and provide
assistance to Madobe's forces and Darod/Kabalah militia.
Serar said that Madobe assured the Kenyans that his militia
did not present a threat. In order to win support, Madobe's
militia had many times captured al-Shabaab operatives
attempting to cross the border into Kenya, Serar alleged.
Madobe said that Kenya had welcomed the idea of cooperation.

5. (C) However, just before his removal as Minister of
Defense, Gandi reportedly told Serar that the training would
now happen in Kenya. In the course of their contacts, the
group concluded that there was "more than one TFG." Deputy
Prime Minister Sharif Hassan and other unnamed TFG officials
reportedly dissuaded Sheikh Sharif from working with Madobe,
General Morgan, and other Marehan clan leaders. Gandi asked
Madobe to induce the Darod/Kabalah militia to train at GOK
training camps but Madobe, suspicious of the involvement of
Sharif Hassan and General Morgan, suspected that the plan was
in fact designed to get his forces out of Lower Juba.

6. (C) Serar said his persistent efforts to maintain contact
with the TFG were unsuccessful after Gandi's removal as TFG
Minister of Defense. Madobe and Serar said they were willing
to work with the Kenyans and with the Somalis that the
Kenyans were recruiting in northeast Kenya but they worried
that Sharif Hassan intended the Kenyan-trained forces as an
alternative to Madobe and other local militias in Lower Juba.
(Note: It is likely that, if the Kenyans deploy the Somali
refugees and ethnic Somali Kenyans that they have been
training into Lower Juba, the result will be intra-clan
fighting and not a united front against al-Shabaab. End
note.)

Negotiating
With the Marehan
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7. (C) The group said that their ultimate aim was to push
al-Shabaab out of lower Juba and to unite the Darod in the
region. They hoped ultimately to create a Juba State. While
they believed that the Darod/Marehan in Gedo should
concentrate on al-Shabaab in Gedo, the group acknowledged
that they were attempting to negotiate with the Marehan in
Kismayo. (Note: It appeared clear that the group thought the
Marehan should govern the Gedo region of a Juba State. The
group said the Kabalah, because they represent the
overwhelming majority in the region, should govern Lower
Juba. End note.) As many as 100 of a reported 190 armed
Marehan reportedly left their tactical alliance with
al-Shabaab in Kismayo and joined the Darod/Kabalah alliance.
(The Marehan change of heart reportedly came after a recent
al-Shabaab assassination of a key Marehan business figure in
Kismayo.)

8. (C) The group said that Marehan business figures are
attempting to convince the Marehan in Kismayo to form an
alliance with the Darod Kabalah. (Note: The Marehan are
negotiating from a position of weakness. They are only a
small fraction of the Lower Juba population. We think that
this relative position of weakness in Kismayo is likely to
force continued Kismayo Marehan negotiations with the
Darod/Kabalah. End note.) Other contacts tell us, however,
that Marehan business leaders are attempting to better their
negotiating position by reaching out to the international
community. (Note: We think that emboldening the Kismayo
Marehan could act as a destabilizing factor. End note.)

9. (C) Comment: The stalemate in Lower Juba is likely to
continue, with territory periodically changing hands.
Al-Shabaab and aligned militia will most likely remain in
control of Kismayo for the time being. We think that the
introduction of the Kenyan-trained forces would most likely
embolden al-Shabaab rather than weaken it, as intra-Darod
forces turned to fight each other while al-Shabaab remained
in control of the port. Those opposed to support for the
Darod/Kabalah alliance appear to have won the internal TFG
battle for now. Negotiations between the Marehan in Kismayo
and the Darod/Kabalah may bring a modicum of additional power
to the Kabalah alliance but any effort by the Marehan in Gedo
to push into Lower Juba would only fuel intra-Darod conflict
and embolden al-Shabaab. We are encouraging all forces
confronting al-Shabaab in Lower Juba to resist the

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long-standing Somali tendency to fracture and re-align when
momentum begins to wane.
RANNEBERGER

Now because of those falsehood, madobe is changing demographics and forcefully assimilating non daarood/hawiye clan into harti namely awrmale clan

deni the islamist KFC lifetime member is once again perpetrating the lie of kabalah clan majority in lower juba and kismaayo.

if kabalah clan are majority why wont the liberate lower juba themselves with marexaan, its because their goal was kismaayo port and they know without external support the natieve marehan of lower juba will drive them out

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Postby Voltage » Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:53 pm

Now because of those falsehood, madobe is changing demographics and forcefully assimilating non daarood/hawiye clan into harti namely awrmale clan

deni the islamist KFC lifetime member is once again perpetrating the lie of kabalah clan majority in lower juba and kismaayo.

if kabalah clan are majority why wont the liberate lower juba themselves with marexaan, its because their goal was kismaayo port and they know without external support the natieve marehan of lower juba will drive
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Obviously you are not speaking TO US, so who is your intended audience?

Eagle, lately you have been quiet sloppy.

Considering that the only thing that has changed is the status quo in Jubbaland with Marehan on the path to realizing their full potential as the single most prominent Somali clan in Jubbaland, clearly this unforeseen development is a "threat."

Eagle, you know why I said you aren't speaking to us. For starters;

1. I read practically almost all wikileaks relating to Marehan particularly about Jubbaland, Gedo, Ahlu Sunnah, or Galgaduud.

2. These cables were from the office of Renneberger, the US Ambassador Nairobi.

3.The diplomatic cables on Somalia generally reflected the the level of importance the US attached to diplomacy with Somalia. This is to say it was nonexistent

4. Literally, whomever the embassy staff (FOR NAIROBI US EMBASSY) was speaking with was the unmitigated record without prior research, critical interview questions, or post-interview context setting.

5. For example, in that particular cable, the US embassy staff seems to show stunning lack of nuance between the three different geographical concepts of "Gedo," "Lower Jubba", and "Kismayo" and how all three relate to a "Jubba State."

6. You can read "Jubba State" as an earlier manifestation of "Jubbaland" during the times Ghandi would start pitching the even more odd name of "Azania."

7. The stunning lack of nuance points to something we call information gap which can be exploited, either intentionally through lies or unintentionally through misinformation.

8. Also because the US Embassy Staff for Nairobi was for Kenya and Somalia as an afterthought extension, it may be that they were not planned well ahead for mitigating the bias or excesses of Somali tribal political calculations; Ghandi comes in as "Somali Defense Minister" or Shariif Sakiin as Speaker...and no one is prepared to critically analyze and mitigate bias.

9.YOU SEEM TO BE PLAYING A GAME THAT COMES STRAIGHT FROM THAT PERIOD.

10. For example, from my critical look, the "effect" of your "information" is sabotage which would imply you are a saboteur.

11. Because I am well versed on Somalia, your conduct in this topic (EXPLAINED VY TAKING THIS WIKILEAKS OUT OF CONTEXT AND WITHOUT HISTORICALLY QUALIFYING IT) and motivatation (EXPLAINED BY COMPLETELY AND SHAMELESSLY MISAPPROPRIATING MAREHAN NAME TO TROLL THE CLAN) essentially says to me this is a political sabotage slyly for the benefit of the Harti clan.
  • 1. Marehan is NOT the majority of "Lower Jubba."
    2. Marehan has NEVER claimed to; not for a second.
    3. What Marehan claims to be majority of is JUBBALAND STATE
    4. Jubbaland State is made up of THREE REGIONS of Gedo, Lower Jubba, and Middle Jubba
    5. Marehan says they are majority of Gedo and are sizable minority in Middle Jubba and Lower Jubba Regions with being a PLURALITY of the CITY OF KISMAAYO.
    6. The Wikileaks cable up there presents INFORMATION GAP as I had said because it ONLY ADDRESSES AND WARNS AGAINST ALLEGED MAREHAN AMBITIONS FOR LOWER JUBBA STATE.
    7. Literally it warns against THE VERY THING MAREHAN HAS NEVER CLAIM AND WHICH YOU NOW THROW AT MAREHAN IN A MALICIOUS POLITICAL SABOTAGE HACK JOB.
    8. Marehan doesn't CARE ABOUT LOWER JUBBA STATE GOVERNMENT OR GOVERNOR OR Etc.
    9. Marehan cares about JUBBALAND STATE AS THE OVERALL FEDERAL STATE AND IN PARTICULAR ABOUT THE GEDO REGION WHICH IS THE LARGEST, MOST POPULATED, DOMINANT STATE OF THE THREE STATES OF JUBBALAND.
    10. FINALLY, MAREHAN CARES ABOUT THE CITY OF KISMAAYO WHICH WILL NOW UNTIL THEN END BE A OF MAREHAN COMMERCE AND ACTIVITY AS THE SEAPORT FOR GEDO AND JUBBALAND STATE AS HELL.
    11. BEYOND THE DISTRICT OF KISMAAYO, MAREHAN LITERALLY CARES NOTHING FOR THE THE LOWER JUBBA.

    Smile is right. There is no way a Marehan willl constantly play this shady and double dealing con game against his own clan.

    This is clear political.sabotage through disinformation designed to delegitimize the clan's interests by attempting to present a shameless "overplay."

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Re: How Madoobe and so called kabalah clan tricked U.S

Postby Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE » Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:17 am

Eaglehawk just showing his sheegatinimo..f-king dhabyaco loya kus :lol:


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Postby Nomand » Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:05 am

Eaglehawk just showing his sheegatinimo..f-king dhabyaco loya kus :lol:


Ps : I am in a good mood tonight..my man Bernie won New Hampshire


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i don't think eaglehawk is a sheegaato, but i think his reer abti are ogadeen probably. but what is confusing is he changes his stance on madoobe on a weekly basis from madoobe being good to madoobe needs to be removed.

this week is madoobe needs to be removed. lets see what he says next week.

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Re: How Madoobe and so called kabalah clan tricked U.S

Postby Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE » Wed Feb 12, 2020 12:07 pm

Eaglehawk just showing his sheegatinimo..f-king dhabyaco loya kus :lol:


Ps : I am in a good mood tonight..my man Bernie won New Hampshire


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Fuck Pete the cheat
i don't think eaglehawk is a sheegaato, but i think his reer abti are ogadeen probably. but what is confusing is he changes his stance on madoobe on a weekly basis from madoobe being good to madoobe needs to be removed.

this week is madoobe needs to be removed. lets see what he says next week.
He purposely confuses people. He changes his stance to throw you off. The only people here with Og mothers are me and ninka jilacsan aka Po.

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Re: How Madoobe and so called kabalah clan tricked U.S

Postby Nomand » Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:13 pm

Eaglehawk just showing his sheegatinimo..f-king dhabyaco loya kus :lol:


Ps : I am in a good mood tonight..my man Bernie won New Hampshire


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Fuck Pete the cheat
i don't think eaglehawk is a sheegaato, but i think his reer abti are ogadeen probably. but what is confusing is he changes his stance on madoobe on a weekly basis from madoobe being good to madoobe needs to be removed.

this week is madoobe needs to be removed. lets see what he says next week.
He purposely confuses people. He changes his stance to throw you off. The only people here with Og mothers are me and ninka jilacsan aka Po.
Anyone who supports Madoobe knowing what he is doing to the beesha by using Kenyans to target and bomb our nomads is not one of us.

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Postby Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE » Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:51 pm

^^ Rer koshin mujahid
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Postby Nomand » Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:40 am

^^

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Postby DalJecel60 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:31 am

Sadow Maxaa Kablalax idin dabataagey

Farmaajo ma Mareexaan buu matala?
Saan umeyda sharqamijirine

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Postby dalalos101 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:11 pm

both Smile and Voltage are trigger happy, unless you have concrete evidence against Herr Eaglehawk let him be, the jury has decided you present evidence is inconclusive.

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Postby dalalos101 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:18 pm

Sadow Maxaa Kablalax idin dabataagey

Farmaajo ma Mareexaan buu matala?
Saan umeyda sharqamijirine
farmaajo adiga ku qafiifay saxib, fuck failmaajo and fuck your dhaboyaco ass, Sade is superior to Kablalax maxaa na dabo dhigayo dad la gumeysto qaarna abaar iyo qorax dishey fuck outta here with you weak ass comments. Kablalax hadaa aniga ii sheeganaysid maxaa kuu diiday inaa Kenya, Ethiopia, Somaliland usheegatid. :lol:

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Postby Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:31 pm

both Smile and Voltage are trigger happy, unless you have concrete evidence against Herr Eaglehawk let him be, the jury has decided you present evidence is inconclusive.
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Postby DalJecel60 » Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:36 am

Sadow Maxaa Kablalax idin dabataagey

Farmaajo ma Mareexaan buu matala?
Saan umeyda sharqamijirine
farmaajo adiga ku qafiifay saxib, fuck failmaajo and fuck your dhaboyaco ass, Sade is superior to Kablalax maxaa na dabo dhigayo dad la gumeysto qaarna abaar iyo qorax dishey fuck outta here with you weak ass comments. Kablalax hadaa aniga ii sheeganaysid maxaa kuu diiday inaa Kenya, Ethiopia, Somaliland usheegatid. :lol:
Qaylo meelna kuma gaaraynee
Hadaad Kablalax ka sareyso waa hawl fiican.
Reer Sade weligoodba tolkey u hanjabaan
Hawiyana waad ka baqdiin.

Reer Xamar maxay yirahdaan
Luuqluuq marow
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Postby PrinceNugaalHawd » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:55 pm

Farmaajo Marexaan wax uu taraay maleeh Waax uu kaa ogyahay na maaleeh Waa Reer Xamar!! You might disagree with him the election is not far off. Durbaan Qabiilka naaga Joojiya

idinkana Inoo Deejiya dagaalka you might disagree with Madobe, but Ogadeen have every right to lead Jubaland just like Marexaan, they entered Jubaland over 200 hundreds years ago.

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Postby ReturnOfMariixmaan » Fri Feb 14, 2020 11:03 pm

Farmaajo Marexaan wax uu taraay maleeh Waax uu kaa ogyahay na maaleeh Waa Reer Xamar!! You might disagree with him the election is not far off. Durbaan Qabiilka naaga Joojiya

idinkana Inoo Deejiya dagaalka you might disagree with Madobe, but Ogadeen have every right to lead Jubaland just like Marexaan, they entered Jubaland over 200 hundreds years ago.
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