I have decided to drop the 1956/SYL Ciise branch issue, but if our HW brothers are interested, privately I will share.

[Voltage]

Also I sort of lost all interest in the Sayid once I realized he was an earlier manifestation of Al Itihad. Haven't really looked back once.

[Samatalis249]

Voltage might even be aw hirsi. When they get frustrated they used the same capitalised letter for emphasis. Their typing is near identical.

For some reason, the Sayid issue has never interested me deeply to even care to be meandering with it.

I assure you I write better English than both Aw-Hirsi AND Mohamed Haji Engiriis.

J/k but yeah that is a no to Cirro.

Also,Ingiriiis is making my point. Is he on Somalinet? It is ridiculous the way he is misusing academics for online cyber tribal mudslinging?

Wallahi it's very regrettable.

Most people in Somali politics who aren’t old men defo at the very least browse somalinet and somalispot. You don’t have to confirm but even your use of the full stop is exactly the same in a unique way. You are defo aw hirsi I’m 85% sure.

[Ben Dover]

Why do you feel so strongly against me? Wallahi I never understood this.

Secondly, the irony of taking on religious disposition particularly where transgression is concerned and utilizing perhaps the most injurious social epithet in the Somali culture is beyond comprehensible.

Ninyaho Ramadaan Kareem.

I dont. It is just that you keep bringing up what I have done to your kind in every post of yours, not unlike the trauma of an abused wife.

Your family are documented as early as the year 1900 by Italian, English, French (..etc) sources to have been considered Midgaan untouchables by Somalis due to their unislamic practice of consuming carrion, particularly dead camels, its why your people are often called boon.

The first step to solve this predicament is to recognise these facts. In order for Somalis to truly move on, the Midgaans themselves must first come to terms with their history and not see it as an attack.

I challenge you to do just that. Ramadan Kareem.

[Osob101]

Voltage

You can feel superior or what ever you feel like. I just think it’s crazy the amount of time and energy you spend writing all that trash and bla bla as it comes you are literally for some kind of acceptance or acknowledgement. As your for your Tumaal flattering kudos to you but than do have you read some of your views and words you have written here about other? . Again just admit, you are not better and are just like all of us which is bias and hardcore tribalist when it comes to your tol. As for jeceyl eebow let alone an Abgaal even a Somali man couldn’t steal it as such was handed over long time ago with 4 sons to proof now. All I need now is a daughter to complete my set

[Voltage]

Why do you feel so strongly against me? Wallahi I never understood this.

Secondly, the irony of taking on religious disposition particularly where transgression is concerned and utilizing perhaps the most injurious social epithet in the Somali culture is beyond comprehensible.

Ninyaho Ramadaan Kareem.

I dont. It is just that you keep bringing up what I have done to your kind in every post of yours, not unlike the trauma of an abused wife.

Your family are documented as early as the year 1900 by Italian, English, French (..etc) sources to have been considered Midgaan untouchables by Somalis due to their unislamic practice of consuming carrion, particularly dead camels, its why your people are often called boon.

The first step to solve this predicament is to recognise these facts. In order for Somalis to truly move on, the Midgaans themselves must first come to terms with their history and not see it as an attack.

I challenge you to do just that. Ramadan Kareem.

I am going to trigger you but you will have to indulge me for a second Benny.

Sxb, I I read better than you.

I write better than you.

I know Somali culture better than you do.

I know Somali dhaqan, murti, and maddadaalo better than you do.

I know Western culture, verbosity, and literature better you do.

I displaybetter examples of critical thinking, deductive, and analytical skills than you do.

I write the English language better than you do and if we were to speak to each other, I would not even have to imagine I have a better rhetorical skills than you do.

I have never responded to your attempts at comparison because I find it irrelevant and even juvenile considering the history of our interaction has never risen beyond my deconstruction of your position at any given time we have butted heads.

Now with all that said, if you were to respond with the same exact juxtapositions but with favorability towards your person, I would shrug my shoulders and move one.

I have no idea why YOU personalize interactions with me and consistently try to beat your own record as the single most unpleasant person on this forum----without even so much as making a single dent in the actual issues of contention between us.

It's always HOOYADA WAS or MIDGAAN.

It's like you are a 2 year old baby and you have stopped emotionally developing.

Jesus Christ.

Now I will respond to you like an adult if that is something you are not accustomed to being presented with, but if your question is why did I write "there is a guy on here who constantly quote mines "Bon/Boon Marehan..."

I did it because you were focking relevant to making my point in this topic as a point of comparison to explain how deadly I can be with information warfare.

Beyond that supportive usage, you were and are completely irrelevant to this topic or larger point.

As for why you were used; you are not a baby and no one is going to infantalize you like one.

You contributed to the public record and I am going to focking use you as an example when I find it appropriate----

---without a single focking thought to what you may think about it.

This, may friend, is called "clarity."

With that said, it is my hope that we can become friends at some point.

[Voltage]

Voltage

You can feel superior or what ever you feel like. I just think it’s crazy the amount of time and energy you spend writing all that trash and bla bla as it comes you are literally for some kind of acceptance or acknowledgement. As your for your Tumaal flattering kudos to you but than do have you read some of your views and words you have written here about other? . Again just admit, you are not better and are just like all of us which is bias and hardcore tribalist when it comes to your tol. As for jeceyl eebow let alone an Abgaal even a Somali man couldn’t steal it as such was handed over long time ago with 4 sons to proof now. All I need now is a daughter to complete my set

In fairness Osob, this is me back in 2010.

I disdained Somalis and their whole cultural positioning the day I found out "Tumaal" means "blacksmith", a man with skill who invents and makes stuff. Lol @ the idea of an illiterate nomad disparaging a man with skill. If I were to be transported back and see Siyaad Diini himself disparage a man more skilled than him, I would have slapped my dear ancestor silly.

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 5#p2809224

That should tell you it is really something I absolutely subscribe to.

Second, Osob I don't come here taking myself seriously ALL THE TIME. I haven't even come here being serious the overwhelming majority of time. I trolled, I slung mud, I teased, I poked...and I probably will again.

However, I still have never seen ANYONE apologize to me on this forum beyond our little inter-Marehan sections. Wallahi bal mucjisadaan eeg.

I have yet found a single person apologize to me for having perceived to offend me or offended Marehan----an entire community or Sheikh, Shariif, and Shaydaan----on my behalf.

It would have at least showed garasho on their behalf that perhaps beyond this online cyber forum we are all brothers and sisters.

Not once.

Yet, you couldn't find a person here I have not apologized to AND their community if I went too far.

You consistantly mention something about Sahal and Marehan.

I apologized to Sahal even privately. I have yet to receive even an knowledgement. But that as it may, I continue to show xushmad and never respond without writing somewhere "abti" in my post. I have even had some of the mosy sharp tongued kinesmen of mine essentially call me a "Biatch" in a topic for exactly that purpose. Ilaa iyo hadana Sahal isma garan but that's fine. I did not apologize for him. I apologized for my own consciousness because I truly seek no pleasure (just guilt actually) from ever being uncivil or rude or affecting anyone negatively---unless they deserve it.

When I was 5 my dad said "kan waa dibi. Abaal haduu kuu hayo xoog kale uma baahnid....haduuse kugu xanaaqo ILAAHAY BAA KUU MAQAN."

In any case, anigu almost always gartaada waa iga go'daa, laakin aanu aragno tayda inaa kaa go'do.

[STARKAST]

Voltage I fully agree with what you said about ingriis.
He sadly has destroyed his own reputation due to his “mooryan literature”.

On the note of Twitter...Somalis don’t realise what you write on Twitter will be remembered forever.

Call it cyber natural selection.

[Ben Dover]

Why do you feel so strongly against me? Wallahi I never understood this.

Secondly, the irony of taking on religious disposition particularly where transgression is concerned and utilizing perhaps the most injurious social epithet in the Somali culture is beyond comprehensible.

Ninyaho Ramadaan Kareem.

I dont. It is just that you keep bringing up what I have done to your kind in every post of yours, not unlike the trauma of an abused wife.

Your family are documented as early as the year 1900 by Italian, English, French (..etc) sources to have been considered Midgaan untouchables by Somalis due to their unislamic practice of consuming carrion, particularly dead camels, its why your people are often called boon.

The first step to solve this predicament is to recognise these facts. In order for Somalis to truly move on, the Midgaans themselves must first come to terms with their history and not see it as an attack.

I challenge you to do just that. Ramadan Kareem.

I am going to trigger you but you will have to indulge me for a second Benny.

Sxb, I I read better than you.

I write better than you.

I know Somali culture better than you do.

I know Somali dhaqan, murti, and maddadaalo better than you do.

I know Western culture, verbosity, and literature better you do.

I displaybetter examples of critical thinking, deductive, and analytical skills than you do.

I write the English language better than you do and if we were to speak to each other, I would not even have to imagine I have a better rhetorical skills than you do.

I have never responded to your attempts at comparison because I find it irrelevant and even juvenile considering the history of our interaction has never risen beyond my deconstruction of your position at any given time we have butted heads.

Now with all that said, if you were to respond with the same exact juxtapositions but with favorability towards your person, I would shrug my shoulders and move one.

I have no idea why YOU personalize interactions with me and consistently try to beat your own record as the single most unpleasant person on this forum----without even so much as making a single dent in the actual issues of contention between us.

It's always HOOYADA WAS or MIDGAAN.

It's like you are a 2 year old baby and you have stopped emotionally developing.

Jesus Christ.

Now I will respond to you like an adult if that is something you are not accustomed to being presented with, but if your question is why did I write "there is a guy on here who constantly quote mines "Bon/Boon Marehan..."

I did it because you were focking relevant to making my point in this topic as a point of comparison to explain how deadly I can be with information warfare.

Beyond that supportive usage, you were and are completely irrelevant to this topic or larger point.

As for why you were used; you are not a baby and no one is going to infantalize you like one.

You contributed to the public record and I am going to focking use you as an example when I find it appropriate----

---without a single focking thought to what you may think about it.

This, may friend, is called "clarity."

With that said, it is my hope that we can become friends at some point.

Your command on the English language is poor, hence your verbose waffling above. You can not communicate effectively.

Looking at your uncle Farmajo's command on the language (either spoken or written) after +20 years in qurbaha, it seems like this runs in the family

As for the "issues of contention", there are none. You are troubled by the fact that the history of your community, particularly in relation to consumption of decaying flesh of dead animals and subsequent stigma of being known as Boon marehan has been exposed.

What I am saying is that this is your history, now that it is out you can never escape it. The best thing you can do is to fully embrace it, accept that your ancestors' choice will not define you... and move on.

If you do that, bad men like Ben Dover will no longer be able to hurt your fragile, emotional, boni soul.

[Osob101]

Voltage

I don’t have time to be digging through you views and words in reference to others. Just because you have that view of Tumaal does not mean, everything else you said about others can be excused. I honestly think you take this place very seriously. Eebow may I suggest you get married and release all that stress LOL. If an apology is what makes you happy and sleep better at night than I sincerity apologize on behalf of Sahal and all other Hawiye.

You are too serious and tense. Do you know how many times me and Murax your own tol joke around and banter. As for Marehan all I can say is that, I might joke around here and there but it’s all a joke and usuall Somali bluff. For the love God your favorite man MSB has to come to grandfathers house and call my grandfather awoowe but they were all Reer Kooshin Landheere not the Langaab Reer Siyaaad

[Samatalis249]

Voltage I fully agree with what you said about ingriis.
He sadly has destroyed his own reputation due to his “mooryan literature”.

On the note of Twitter...Somalis don’t realise what you write on Twitter will be remembered forever.

Call it cyber natural selection.

He’s the most famous Somali historian of his generation. His work is well respected in Somaliland and Mogadishu where he has millions of people who follow his work.

He will be beaming from radio Mogadishu and will be writing Somali history for the gov in the future, no amount of darood duuso will change that.

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

What have I missed?

You didn’t miss anything of value, just the usual inferiority complex of our Italian Cheese brother aka Voltage who will write pages and pages of bla bla bla we are this and that. pop o

Lol.

What's good eebaay?

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

What have I missed?

Your friend Sahal posted some kindergarten level stuff about history using images I actually happened to introduce.

Specifically something about Sh Ali Jimcaale picked by Abdullahi Ciise for first Trusteeship governemnt minister in 1956.

Now the irony is Sahal, being very new to history as I have realized, wasn't even aware of using the elections in trusteeship government on a CLAN against Marehan was sort of ironic....considering 10+ clan parties even ran and ONLY Marehan won on a clan basis under their own name.

The Marehan of Lugh specifically ran under the Marehan Union Party after the SYL fielded a weak outside candidate against Hizbia Digil and Mirifle which Marehan considered a blatantly tribal party (this before later rehabilitation as a non-tribal party).

The Marehan Union candidate defeated both SYL and HDM in Lugh in the ONLY clan victory out of 10 clan parties.

So I wanted to get historical artifacts to laugh at him for the irony like this



But because I am so much more aware of context and have been surfing through a lot of the Italian side recently, my original understanding of the Somali and outside (English language) perspectives coalesced into noticing something I have never noticed before in the 1953-1958 period and in which NO ONE has ever addressed.

They all skip over it like matte of fact, but with the details it is like "ok, wait a minute here....."

Aight. Carry on then.

[Voltage]

Blah blah blah

BendOver/GenSNM/Skywalker, camiradayda ayaa kaaga dartay. War keep it pushing doqonyaho.

Aduunka waxaan u necbahay carab qajac and there is nothing more pathetic then a middle age Lax like you.

Doqonimadaada xataa waad garan la'dahay when someone has found you completely stupid with sheer doqonimo.

Let's see in your teeny weeny head what you think you are affecting.

Marehan is today the President of Somalia. He was yesterday the entire government of Somalia for 21 years. And 500 years ago he is written as the Emir of Somalis.

Even with that, do you think my response to you will be to say "OHHH NOOO, FAAR FROM MIDGAAN."

Nacalad baa kugu taal doqonkiiyoow.

MADHIBAAN waa ahlul bayt, Ilaahayne waxaan aaminsanahay he will shower his mercy on them proportionate to the vulger nacalad you represent individually used to disenfranchise and victimize ummad Soomaaliyeed oo Islam ah.

It's like in your LITTLE itty bitty tiny head, it is difficult for you to realize the sheer irrelevance of your stupidity the MOMENT I CHOSE TO NOT RESPOND TO YOU WITH "OOOHHH NOO MAREHAN IS NOT MADHIBAAN" INADVERTENTLY FURTHER VICTIMIZING AND PUTTING DOWN A GROUP OF PEOPLE I BELIEVE ARE SUPERIOR TO YOU AS AN INDIVIDUAL WITH ZERO REDEEMING QUALITIES.

Like I said, aduunka waxaan ugu necbahay carab qajac and by that I mean someone LACKING in intrinsic dhaqan Somali attempting to partake in the worst forms of it.

The day you pranced around opening multiple topics on "GUYSSS IT'S NOT EVEN CALLED BELED-XAAWO, IT'S CALLED BUULO-XAAWO QIX QIX QIX" I realized what a lax you were. Dhoocil yaroo cadaan Maraykan ka timid camal ah who just started reading wikipedia on Somalia.

Even this constant ridiculous quote mining you do on "Boon Marehan," in your little itty bitty tiny head you really think you are affecting equities.

It's as if like Marehan is not known at all by the Somali people let alone known even better than your own clan.

Carab qajac, just like Beled-Xaawo is really "Buulo-Xaawo qix qix qix" was new to you, the only thing displayed by your obsessive personality disorder is your sheer stupidity and cluelessness.

Now keep on the PG little kindergarten level children's stories. My point for even bringing you up is to say IN COMPARISON TO YOU, I would've focking cut your balls off and taken apart your child's play.

Do you think Tol Jecle could live down what I can show about the origins of the Somali clan system using the foundational beginnings of a very large northern clan? Do you think you can cause totally new interest to analyze a clan from even among your own? That you can affect the entire perspective of a clan?

You can't was my point but I focking can do it right this second with the presentation, the original source and discovery and I can do it using your own entire identity as the vehicle.

But I won't. That was my entire point and it stands.

Consider this my last statement to you.

[Voltage]

Voltage

I don’t have time to be digging through you views and words in reference to others. Just because you have that view of Tumaal does not mean, everything else you said about others can be excused. I honestly think you take this place very seriously. Eebow may I suggest you get married and release all that stress LOL. If an apology is what makes you happy and sleep better at night than I sincerity apologize on behalf of Sahal and all other Hawiye.

You are too serious and tense. Do you know how many times me and Murax your own tol joke around and banter. As for Marehan all I can say is that, I might joke around here and there but it’s all a joke and usuall Somali bluff. For the love God your favorite man MSB has to come to grandfathers house and call my grandfather awoowe but they were all Reer Kooshin Landheere not the Langaab Reer Siyaaad

Walaaley no, meel laguu raaco malehid.

Sheekadan waxaa weeye damn if you do and damn if you don't. I just told you I never really take myself seriously at all. Hadee don't needlessly accuse you and then when I defend myself make me out to be the problem.

Ok I am glad you don't internalize anything. That's hownI try to be. Balaayo suufi ah baan iska ahay dabeecad ahaan. Hadii la xadreeyo anigaa ugu burur og as soon as everyone looks around I am the first to say WAR MAXAA MEESHA KA SOCDO

Nice try with Siyaad and Kooshin..laba walaal midka dheer reerkuu u dheeryahay, midka gaabane isla reerkuu u gaaban yahay.

P.S Does your grandpa start with T?

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Voltage I fully agree with what you said about ingriis.
He sadly has destroyed his own reputation due to his “mooryan literature”.

On the note of Twitter...Somalis don’t realise what you write on Twitter will be remembered forever.

Call it cyber natural selection.

He’s the most famous Somali historian of his generation. His work is well respected in Somaliland and Mogadishu where he has millions of people who follow his work.

He will be beaming from radio Mogadishu and will be writing Somali history for the gov in the future, no amount of darood duuso will change that.

That title will soon be taken but that schizo never had it to begin with. Even with his followers; He (Ingriis) never moved the needle in politics in Somalia or even on social media. He was a USC waterboy, I can post the picture if you doubt me. Only angry Landers and jabhad fans love him. While what Voltage posts sparks conversations and kills whole narratives in REAL TIME. My brother is posting anonymously at the same time too! White policy makers and institutions/intelligence services take Voltage's word as xaqiiq. There's levels to this. I don't know why he isn't as arrogant as I would be in that sphere of influence. That just speaks to his humility. I'll piss on you all day wallahi. I have no remorse for my enemies. But lucky he has naxaris.