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Postby sahal80 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:58 pm

horta niyahow Somalida waxaa ugu xun dadka mudug ka soo jeeda( without generalization) aka ku qabso ku qadimaysida. maaha dad ay gar gasho waa dad maskaxda ka baahan oo dhul gaajo ah ka soo jeeda. aduunka waxaadan aqoon lama sheegto. waxaa maqlee mid noocaan ah oo leh galbeedka shabeele waa al shabaab maba yaqaano in buuloburde oo dhan iyo tujlooyin hawaadle ah oo hoistaga ay galbeedka shabeele dhacaan!

jalalaqsi wabiga galbeedkiisa ilaa jowhar wabiga galbeedkiisa waa hawadle!. laamigia oo ah galbeedka wabiga ee jowhar aada hawaadlaa leh!

baladweyne buundowayn waa xaaad hawadle ah ooy la degaan xoogaa jareer ah oo ku xura xaafada howlwadaag meesha doonsubagle la dho ho waana galbeedka!

infact howlwadaag waxay la mid tahay wadajir oo dhinaca magaalada u dgan dhanka liiqliiqato buundowana dharkeenleey gadaasha wadajir!

waxaan gaarny inaan gugundhabe O galino oo xaafadooda ka soo halno gadaal koonfurta iyo dhanka waqooyo sida aabagade meesha ay wadajir kaga taal!

batac batac iyo hadal badan looma baahna

hiiraan iska dhaafe hawadle jowhar ay ka talinayeen ka hor intuusan soo halin maxamed dheere waxay heesteen xaafada maamulka ee horseed ee ubadan jareeta iyo carab somaliga iyo xaafada galbeed ee hantiwadaag. Abgaal iyo Gaaljecel ayaa gawaadle isugu taheen 2000kii laakiin heshiis aan haarnay in magaalada abgaal maamulaan anagana aan qayb ka noqono

aan u nimaadno hiiraan ilaa 2000kii wixii USC ka danbeeyay

hiiraan waxaa ka jiray golo deegaan oo wax doorta waxaana ka faaideysabay UNSOM2 oo lacag ku bixin jirtay nidaam rayid ah oo USC ka duwan. hiiraan ilaa sadex doorashaa ka dhacdey

waxay ku bilaabantay 2 sano in ninkii meesha heestay la doortay wuxuu keenay kuxigeen gaaljecel ah magaalada waa mideysneed ilaa uu ka dhintay. kadib qaxaa ka doortay laqanyo waxaana kusime sio ahaa cali cosoble. hiiraan democracy waa ku xoogantahay . 2012 waxaa la doortay mayorka baladweyne.

mida labaad oo muhiimka ah Baladweyne la mid maaha GLK waa magaalo hal xarun ah leh sida maamulka, police, ciidamada intaba waxay ku yaalaan dhanka bari oo 99% hawadle ah
magaaladan waxaaba sameeyay sh ali jimcaale 1950skii olaa 60skii sidii bay ku socotay. xiligii militaryga ayaa galbeedka military airport laga dhusay maadama bariga biyaha galaan waana haayaa old videos garoonkaas oo hada xaafad laga kor dhisay reer baadiyaha gaaljecelka

1993kii, Hawadle garoonka baroga ay u soo rareen wax ku harey maba jiro marka hadii labo qabiil oo yar meesha degan yihiin ooy xukun nagu heesan oo aygada isku dagaalayaan xaafadaas maxaan u qasbeynaa? PL GLK xaafada Garsoor ee leelkasaha ka hor faroole heestay malitia takfiir ah. waxaa jiria warsangali iyo dhulbahante PL laga maamulo laakin aysan ciidamo ka joogin oo marba dhinac u carar ah.

muhimada waa xarumaha maaha clan pocketska

hawadle ma yeelayaan in Gugundhabe maamul gooni ah samaysto waayo ayagaaba kala haaya hadey rabaana way isku daynayaan hadii qolo damacdo inay maamulka ka hor imaadaan
"The case study of the jijeele and gaaljeel clans in hiran region also concerns a conflict between two agro-pastoral clans over rural and urban territory, in idale, the conflict was triggered by one person but killed 38 people...an important feature of the peace process was the constructive role played by the dominant hawadle clan in the area whose engagement was prompted by the threat that the conflict pased to the town of belet wein(the regions economic hub) and who initiated the reconciliation and supported"
dhageyta ninkaan gaaljecelka ah oo leh xassan qalaad ayaa xoog howlwadaag ku qabsadey" ayagoo reer baafiyo ah waxa schoolada u furay inay hawadle yihiin ka dhageyso. school aan kuu furay maxaa kaa galay magiciisa?

hasaan qalaad
https://www.bbc.com/somali/news/story/2 ... 930_qalaad
fahad yaasiin oo dhahay hassan qalaad hiiraan laguma heesto qabiiladaana doortay
http://www.somaliweyn.org/2019/04/12/mu ... n-ee-2003/

markaan oo kale koonfurta Somalia iyo Gedo waxaa heestay al shabaab kkk iskadloow ina igaare!
the last days one of year old pro TFG hiiraan admin
https://www.hiiraan.com/news/2009/aug/w ... 8-7350.htm

https://www.hiiraan.com/news/2009/sept/ ... 5-7427.htm
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Re: enlightening ciyaalka iska hadla

Postby sahal80 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:04 pm

this is not including hawadle pockets in howlwadaag so you can understand what i mean by putting them in O


same in Jowhar west of the river. Jowhar nothern highway is my land

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Postby Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:26 pm

Are Shiidle xawadle ?
Sahal do you bleach ? I heard xawadle are big on bleaching

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Postby sahal80 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:04 pm

Are Shiidle xawadle ?
Sahal do you bleach ? I heard xawadle are big on bleaching
:lol: come on you have been here since early 2000s and you pretending you dont know shiidle.

long time i embraced my hamitic darkness so i dont care about skin colour anymore. im featurist not colorist.

dont change my topic please :lol:

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Postby Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:23 pm

^^So they are xawadle? The name itself is funny
So Sahal you became a featurist every since you posted your blick hand lol

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Postby sahal80 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:40 pm

^^So they are xawadle? The name itself is funny
So Sahal you became a featurist every since you posted your blick hand lol
:lol: im fine with every thing eccept foolxumada reer Gedo like fartaag.
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Postby Mk777 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:45 pm

Kkkkkk ar been badana. Jijeele gaaljecel conflict has been resolved long time ago.
The root cause of the conflict is in this inter peace document starting from page 66. https://www.interpeace.org/wp-content/u ... ses_EN.pdf

The conflict is caused by our recent expansion in north west direction. The past 300 years before 1900 we were expanded south but from 1900s we started to expand north west towards beledweyne from buloburte. Everything north of ceel cali was traditionally jijeele land but they moved towards Ethiopia.

The document also clearly states that it was jijeele vs abtisame not gaaljecel. The document clearly states dirisame clan mediated in this conflict and we had grudge against them due to them siding with caafi in our internal conflict

Howlwadag is massive xaafad like maadina in xamar it is the biggest xaafad in beledweyne by far. We live both side but one side (heegaan) is 90% gaaljecel whilst the northern hilaac is more diverse but is majority jijeele.We also live in buundoweyn (doon subagle).Yes there out some marti xawaadle such as your sub and cabdalla sub clan who sought refuge from Cali madaxweyne.

Buloburte nowadays is majority xawadle I agree but jalalaqsi is definitely majority gugundhabe and there is also xaaji saalax big xaafad there. It shows on google maps in jalalqsi (xaafada gaaljecel) but it is majority baadicade.

The highway from jalalaqsi is entirely gaaljecel and some gugundhabe. Gaaljecel start around 2km from jalalaqsi at jimbiley ( xaaji saalax) and other towns around kili shiinaha all the way to jowhar west of jowhar (jarrirow) north south all direction but east. fiidow is majority baadicade, buurane.
Stop the lies xawadle have no xaafad in jowhar


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Kkkkkk ar been badana. Jijeele gaaljecel conflict has been resolved long time ago.
The root cause of the conflict is in this inter peace document starting from page 66. https://www.interpeace.org/wp-content/u ... ses_EN.pdf

The conflict is caused by our recent expansion in north west direction. The past 300 years before 1900 we were expanded south but from 1900s we started to expand north west towards beledweyne from buloburte. Everything north of ceel cali was traditionally jijeele land but they moved towards Ethiopia.

The document also clearly states that it was jijeele vs abtisame not gaaljecel. The document clearly states dirisame clan mediated in this conflict and we had grudge against them due to them siding with caafi in our internal conflict

Howlwadag is massive xaafad like maadina in xamar it is the biggest xaafad in beledweyne by far. We live both side but one side (heegaan) is 90% gaaljecel whilst the northern hilaac is more diverse but is majority jijeele.We also live in buundoweyn (doon subagle).Yes there out some marti xawaadle such as your sub and cabdalla sub clan who sought refuge from Cali madaxweyne.

Buloburte nowadays is majority xawadle I agree but jalalaqsi is definitely majority gugundhabe and there is also xaaji saalax big xaafad there. It shows on google maps in jalalqsi (xaafada gaaljecel) but it is majority baadicade.

The highway from jalalaqsi is entirely gaaljecel and some gugundhabe. Gaaljecel start around 2km from jalalaqsi at jimbiley ( xaaji saalax) and other towns around kili shiinaha all the way to jowhar west of jowhar (jarrirow) north south all direction but east. fiidow is majority baadicade, buurane.
Stop the lies xawadle have no xaafad in jowhar

saxib marabo inaan kugu dheerado cadaw kal kaal baad tahay i dont wanna confrontation with a fellow hiiraanian laakin waxaa tahay nin dhalin yaro ah oo reer magaal ah oo bulsho reer miyi ah ka soo jeeda oo raba inay is badalaan. dagaalka gaaljecel iyo jijeel waa dagaal reer miyi ah lama xalin karo ilaa sadex jeer aan ka hortagnay inuusan magaalada ku fidin intuu maamulka hirshabelle jiray. waagii hore rag damjadiid iyo wasaarada gudaha soo magacaabi jireen baa dagaalka hurin jiray si Jowhar looga dhigo meel baladweyne ka fiican laakin hada madama maamulka hirshabelle labada dhinac magacaabo waa isla shaqeeyaan hal team ayaa la yahay kii buuq keena waa burinaa marka fadligaas anagaa leh dont beat the hand that takes care of you

tan labaad dagaalka wuxuu isku badalay dagaal al shabaab iyo macawisleey. maadama cabdi ileey meesha ka baxay jijeele ma heestaan liyu police hubka maamulka ayaa siiya waxaa loo hubeeyay macawisleeyda. nin gaaljecel aa howlwadaag ku dilay. gurbiyo oo baadicade buuloburde lagu heesto westland inuu ka sheekeeyo xili aad macawisleey iyo al shabaab isku dilaysaan waa wax lagu qoslo. maalinkii taas dhacdo waa akhiro zaaman. baadicadaas hada soo kacay waa quysteen markay arkeen in hawadle howsha dooradhada wato oo abgaal sharaxneen. ha iska cabaadaan.

stop assassinating jijeele mujaahideen you al shabaab terrorists!

notice all hawadle websites mourning his death. may allah bless his soul.



killed by gaaljecel in howlwadaag. kulahaa westland kkkk

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Postby Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:38 pm

^^So they are xawadle? The name itself is funny
So Sahal you became a featurist every since you posted your blick hand lol
:lol: im fine with every thing eccept foolxumada reer Gedo like fartaag.
You mean like that Shiidle saanbuur from Baletweyne..Sanbooloshe something

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Postby Mk777 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:04 pm

Kkkkkk ar been badana. Jijeele gaaljecel conflict has been resolved long time ago.
The root cause of the conflict is in this inter peace document starting from page 66.

The conflict is caused by our recent expansion in north west direction. The past 300 years before 1900 we were expanded south but from 1900s we started to expand north west towards beledweyne from buloburte. Everything north of ceel cali was traditionally jijeele land but they moved towards Ethiopia.

The document also clearly states that it was jijeele vs abtisame not gaaljecel. The document clearly states dirisame clan mediated in this conflict and we had grudge against them due to them siding with caafi in our internal conflict

Howlwadag is massive xaafad like maadina in xamar it is the biggest xaafad in beledweyne by far. We live both side but one side (heegaan) is 90% gaaljecel whilst the northern hilaac is more diverse but is majority jijeele.We also live in buundoweyn (doon subagle).Yes there out some marti xawaadle such as your sub and cabdalla sub clan who sought refuge from Cali madaxweyne.

Buloburte nowadays is majority xawadle I agree but jalalaqsi is definitely majority gugundhabe and there is also xaaji saalax big xaafad there. It shows on google maps in jalalqsi (xaafada gaaljecel) but it is majority baadicade.

The highway from jalalaqsi is entirely gaaljecel and some gugundhabe. Gaaljecel start around 2km from jalalaqsi at jimbiley ( xaaji saalax) and other towns around kili shiinaha all the way to jowhar west of jowhar (jarrirow) north south all direction but east. fiidow is majority baadicade, buurane.
Stop the lies xawadle have no xaafad in jowhar

saxib marabo inaan kugu dheerado cadaw kal kaal baad tahay i dont wanna confrontation with a fellow hiiraanian laakin waxaa tahay nin dhalin yaro ah oo reer magaal ah oo bulsho reer miyi ah ka soo jeeda oo raba inay is badalaan. dagaalka gaaljecel iyo jijeel waa dagaal reer miyi ah lama xalin karo ilaa sadex jeer aan ka hortagnay inuusan magaalada ku fidin intuu maamulka hirshabelle jiray. waagii hore rag damjadiid iyo wasaarada gudaha soo magacaabi jireen baa dagaalka hurin jiray si Jowhar looga dhigo meel baladweyne ka fiican laakin hada madama maamulka hirshabelle labada dhinac magacaabo waa isla shaqeeyaan hal team ayaa la yahay kii buuq keena waa burinaa marka fadligaas anagaa leh dont beat the hand that takes care of you

tan labaad dagaalka wuxuu isku badalay dagaal al shabaab iyo macawisleey. maadama cabdi ileey meesha ka baxay jijeele ma heestaan liyu police hubka maamulka ayaa siiya waxaa loo hubeeyay macawisleeyda. nin gaaljecel aa howlwadaag ku dilay. gurbiyo oo baadicade buuloburde lagu heesto westland inuu ka sheekeeyo xili aad macawisleey iyo al shabaab isku dilaysaan waa wax lagu qoslo. maalinkii taas dhacdo waa akhiro zaaman. baadicadaas hada soo kacay waa quysteen markay arkeen in hawadle howsha dooradhada wato oo abgaal sharaxneen. ha iska cabaadaan.

stop assassinating jijeele mujaahideen you al shabaab terrorists!

notice all hawadle websites mourning his death. may allah bless his soul.



killed by gaaljecel in howlwadaag. kulahaa westland kkkk
Kkkkk.



Was this also gaaljecel? Waxaad rabtiid maa noo aqrineey sxb.
The jijeele conflict is resolved sxb it use to come back on and off but it is buried now .We agree no more expansion north of burjada ceynta we have more than enough land. I’m against nomads anyways 21st century we need to build cities.



Any gaaljecel responsible for harming jijeele we will bring to justice and vice versa.

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Postby sahal80 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:38 pm

Al shabaab waligood meeshaas ma gaarin. train stationada Europe ay taas ka dhacdaa , Kenya ay taas ka dhacdaa. tuugo sidii naagihii baabuur isku qarinaya kadibna qoryahooda kala soo degaya at station police xataa maaha army base waa la wada laayay ma qabsaden?

laakin howlwadaag waa meesha kaliye hoobiyaha Al shabaab gaaro , meesha kaliye ee dhaqan gaaljecel oo dawlada taageersan joogin, meesha kaliya oo mudaharaad dawlada federalka taageersan lagu samayn karin iskadaa hirshabelle.


markii kaladire iyo isaaq geele la xirayay waxaa lagu xiray "bariga" guroga caraale hortiis waayo howlwadaag mudaahataad maba ka dhici karo

adiga xataa waxaan kama soo qori kartid howlwadaag kkkk

yaa dilay xaaji quurow? wuxuu ahaa nin Hawadle neceb oo ganacsade gaaljecel ah oo caan ah waxaa maamulka siiyay qandaraasyo badan oo dhismayaal ah adinkaa hawlwadaag ku dileen waa odeygiinii afka furan jiray waaba nadhafiseen kkkk

hada gudiga fatahaada kuwa caynaya waa al shabaab waxaa la dhahay warniyahow waxba ha ka cabsanina waxaanahay gudi madax banaan ee nala shaqeeye. dhawaan filo habelaa la dilay.


waliba jufadaada u dhaxaysa buq aqable iyo baladweyne 100% waa al shabaab kuwa walawayn baaba roon ceelcali waxa hortaagan waa adinka ugaaskiina hiiraan waa al shabaab ugaaskiina dawlada xamar uu daganyahay waligiis

markaasaa waxaa leedahay maamul aan hawadle ka garab dhisi karnaa. hiiraan waa laba mid ama al shabaab ama maamulka canshuurta kaa qaada eed ku hoos noo shahay there is no third option.


aniga markaan howlwadaag galay 2017kii cabsi aa iga buuxdey it was like 100% gafuur afduuban waxaa la idhahay dhar tacbaan ah xiro cimasmad gaduudan ayaan afka ku duubtey eaayo wajigeyga dhaldhalaalka waxay u arkaan qof europe ka yimid. waxaan ku soo wareegay ilaa suuqa xoolaha markaan soo laabtey ilaa shanta dabakaayo ayaan dharkii hore xirtay waa pocketka hawadle ka degaan. al shabaab aad maqleysid waa qabiil 100% i was feeling safe in "bariga" supporting maamulka oo labo solar power isiiyay waxaan geeyay my tuulo camalow .

sida waare jiis dhahay labada dhinac waa laba qaarad 100% he is right


somalinet 100% cadawgaa kugu shaeeysta aan ku jecleen oo eeleey taageera. time i should support the jareer eelaays who keep karbaaashing the shit out of you wax idiin gurmanayana ma jiro meel walbe ka cabaada! waxaa tihiin dadka ugu liita Somalia. the Somali bedouin who have no nationality in every state. good luck somali gypsies!

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Postby Mk777 » Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:56 am

Al shabaab waligood meeshaas ma gaarin. train stationada Europe ay taas ka dhacdaa , Kenya ay taas ka dhacdaa. tuugo sidii naagihii baabuur isku qarinaya kadibna qoryahooda kala soo degaya at station police xataa maaha army base waa la wada laayay ma qabsaden?

laakin howlwadaag waa meesha kaliye hoobiyaha Al shabaab gaaro , meesha kaliye ee dhaqan gaaljecel oo dawlada taageersan joogin, meesha kaliya oo mudaharaad dawlada federalka taageersan lagu samayn karin iskadaa hirshabelle.


markii kaladire iyo isaaq geele la xirayay waxaa lagu xiray "bariga" guroga caraale hortiis waayo howlwadaag mudaahataad maba ka dhici karo

adiga xataa waxaan kama soo qori kartid howlwadaag kkkk

yaa dilay xaaji quurow? wuxuu ahaa nin Hawadle neceb oo ganacsade gaaljecel ah oo caan ah waxaa maamulka siiyay qandaraasyo badan oo dhismayaal ah adinkaa hawlwadaag ku dileen waa odeygiinii afka furan jiray waaba nadhafiseen kkkk

hada gudiga fatahaada kuwa caynaya waa al shabaab waxaa la dhahay warniyahow waxba ha ka cabsanina waxaanahay gudi madax banaan ee nala shaqeeye. dhawaan filo habelaa la dilay.


waliba jufadaada u dhaxaysa buq aqable iyo baladweyne 100% waa al shabaab kuwa walawayn baaba roon ceelcali waxa hortaagan waa adinka ugaaskiina hiiraan waa al shabaab ugaaskiina dawlada xamar uu daganyahay waligiis

markaasaa waxaa leedahay maamul aan hawadle ka garab dhisi karnaa. hiiraan waa laba mid ama al shabaab ama maamulka canshuurta kaa qaada eed ku hoos noo shahay there is no third option.


aniga markaan howlwadaag galay 2017kii cabsi aa iga buuxdey it was like 100% gafuur afduuban waxaa la idhahay dhar tacbaan ah xiro cimasmad gaduudan ayaan afka ku duubtey eaayo wajigeyga dhaldhalaalka waxay u arkaan qof europe ka yimid. waxaan ku soo wareegay ilaa suuqa xoolaha markaan soo laabtey ilaa shanta dabakaayo ayaan dharkii hore xirtay waa pocketka hawadle ka degaan. al shabaab aad maqleysid waa qabiil 100% i was feeling safe in "bariga" supporting maamulka oo labo solar power isiiyay waxaan geeyay my tuulo camalow .

sida waare jiis dhahay labada dhinac waa laba qaarad 100% he is right


somalinet 100% cadawgaa kugu shaeeysta aan ku jecleen oo eeleey taageera. time i should support the jareer eelaays who keep karbaaashing the shit out of you wax idiin gurmanayana ma jiro meel walbe ka cabaada! waxaa tihiin dadka ugu liita Somalia. the Somali bedouin who have no nationality in every state. good luck somali gypsies!
Waxaa rabtid taageer no one cares sxb. We know who is full of cuqdad iyo naceeb. Stick to east hiiraan. The ones u say that live in Shanta dabakaayo are the ones like your cabdi yusuf that are bullied by their brothers marti noo ah. They are not allowed to pick up a stick let alone an ak47 in howlwadag

A cabdi Yusuf calling gaaljecel samoow kiligis bilisow a gypsy is something to laugh at walahi. A clan without a single tuulo in Somalia forget hiiraan.

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Postby BigBreak » Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:00 am

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