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Deni caves in

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Deni caves in

Postby Sbashi » Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:17 am

Looks like after Ic pressure Deni caves in and says election will take place on time. That's all it takes, one visit and all your delay tactics out of the window. No wonder madoobe appeared outside his nairobi hotel and held a press conference to rant about gedo. The pressure is increasing and the game is on. They were told to name the guddi immediately and without delay. Soon madoobe will be the last person remaining. Coming days will be very interesting.


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Re: Deni caves in

Postby Nomand » Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:33 am

it is not about being caving in it is about MJ being sidelined by abgaal. Abgaal and Ogadeen have agreed to abgaal president and Ogadeen Prime minister which is why deni and madoobe have separated.

You will soon see Kheyre also distance himself from the others.

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Re: Deni caves in

Postby Sbashi » Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:41 am

it is not about being caving in it is about MJ being sidelined by abgaal. Abgaal and Ogadeen have agreed to abgaal president and Ogadeen Prime minister which is why deni and madoobe have separated.

You will soon see Kheyre also distance himself from the others.
an ogaden pm?> This has never been heard of in hisotry. Very surprising. From only having the minister for somali galbeed and nfd affairs, to actually beng pm 60 years later. what a scuccess story.

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Re: Deni caves in

Postby Nomand » Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:55 am

it is not about being caving in it is about MJ being sidelined by abgaal. Abgaal and Ogadeen have agreed to abgaal president and Ogadeen Prime minister which is why deni and madoobe have separated.

You will soon see Kheyre also distance himself from the others.
an ogaden pm?> This has never been heard of in hisotry. Very surprising. From only having the minister for somali galbeed and nfd affairs, to actually beng pm 60 years later. what a scuccess story.
Yes,

in the mogadishu hotel meeting only two darods where both ogadeen, xalane and ghandi. MJ and puntland have been sidelined and if abgaal does become president puntland will be all alone as madoobe has already sided with hassan sheikh/ sheikh shariif.

which is why hassan sheikh/ sheikh shariif have talked about SNA leaving Gedo. it seems deni now understands if he wants to have any influence on the next government then the next president needs to be farmaajo, otherwise it will be puntland vs all FMS plus SFG.

behind closed door madoobe now understands MJ/ puntland cannot help him in anything and i have heard he is offering MX to pick their own VP and to get two extra ministerial positions. of course MX will not take that offer.

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Re: Deni caves in

Postby Sbashi » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:11 am

it is not about being caving in it is about MJ being sidelined by abgaal. Abgaal and Ogadeen have agreed to abgaal president and Ogadeen Prime minister which is why deni and madoobe have separated.

You will soon see Kheyre also distance himself from the others.
an ogaden pm?> This has never been heard of in hisotry. Very surprising. From only having the minister for somali galbeed and nfd affairs, to actually beng pm 60 years later. what a scuccess story.
Yes,

in the mogadishu hotel meeting only two darods where both ogadeen, xalane and ghandi. MJ and puntland have been sidelined and if abgaal does become president puntland will be all alone as madoobe has already sided with hassan sheikh/ sheikh shariif.

which is why hassan sheikh/ sheikh shariif have talked about SNA leaving Gedo. it seems deni now understands if he wants to have any influence on the next government then the next president needs to be farmaajo, otherwise it will be puntland vs all FMS plus SFG.

behind closed door madoobe now understands MJ/ puntland cannot help him in anything and i have heard he is offering MX to pick their own VP and to get two extra ministerial positions. of course MX will not take that offer.
Ogaden have no real influence inside somalia though. How can they make ogaden the pm, there is no benefit to that. Better have influential mj as pm. I think that later these ogadens will quickly get sidelined.

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Re: Deni caves in

Postby Nomand » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:22 am

shashi,

abgaal are copying kenyan and gabre tactics, same way ogadeen have no real influence inside jubbaland and are being babysat in kismaayo by the KDF. a man with influence inside somalia would be a man with power and abgaal don't want that so it means no MJ or MX prime minister

one of the conflicts between hawiye and majerteen was that hawiye said darod should be the speaker in the next election and the speaker should be ogadeen, Dani did not like this and thought it would damage darod permanently just to get rid of farmaajo. now abgaal said ok no speaker but the PM will be ogadeen.

hawiye at the end of the day want a weak jubbaland that only operates in kismaayo and a sidelined majerteen. both those birds can be hit with one stone

madoobe president of jubbaland
ogadeen PM of Somalia.

Ogadeen are now fully under the camp of abgaal. the only see kismaayo and how to hold onto kismaayo.

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Re: Deni caves in

Postby Caytame » Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:43 pm

qawsaartii qaylo ku nooshu ahayd maxay isu akhrinayaan midgihii marehan? :lol: kulahaa ogaden has no influence.
ogaden checkmated your president with SNA and Ethiopia, they also made barre hiiraale blind and killed his son, all in the last 15 years.
They got rid of msb. actually it's always been MZ vs Marehan with SNA plus Ethiopia, and you lost every single time, and this time will be no different.

boon marehan waxaa la'idinku celin pre 1969

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Re: Deni caves in

Postby Sbashi » Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:55 pm

shashi,

abgaal are copying kenyan and gabre tactics, same way ogadeen have no real influence inside jubbaland and are being babysat in kismaayo by the KDF. a man with influence inside somalia would be a man with power and abgaal don't want that so it means no MJ or MX prime minister

one of the conflicts between hawiye and majerteen was that hawiye said darod should be the speaker in the next election and the speaker should be ogadeen, Dani did not like this and thought it would damage darod permanently just to get rid of farmaajo. now abgaal said ok no speaker but the PM will be ogadeen.

hawiye at the end of the day want a weak jubbaland that only operates in kismaayo and a sidelined majerteen. both those birds can be hit with one stone

madoobe president of jubbaland
ogadeen PM of Somalia.

Ogadeen are now fully under the camp of abgaal. the only see kismaayo and how to hold onto kismaayo.
Hawiye are playing a good game. When it comes to karbaashing darods politically or militarily they can always call upon the 5th column of darood the ogaden. specifically the MZ. Their has been a romance between MZ and hawiye since 1991.

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Re: Deni caves in

Postby Sbashi » Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:10 pm

qawsaartii qaylo ku nooshu ahayd maxay isu akhrinayaan midgihii marehan? :lol: kulahaa ogaden has no influence.
ogaden checkmated your president with SNA and Ethiopia, they also made barre hiiraale blind and killed his son, all in the last 15 years.
They got rid of msb. actually it's always been MZ vs Marehan with SNA plus Ethiopia, and you lost every single time, and this time will be no different.

boon marehan waxaa la'idinku celin pre 1969
:damn: nacalaa boon oromo and their cuqdad. Warya no need to lash out. The truth is ogaden has no influence in Somalia, you can attack mx but it won't change what you're in Somalia. If we go pre-1969 ogaden are the biggest losers. You might forget but when Abdirizak Haji Hussein was pm, your kablalah mj kin sold you off as refugees. You were given refugee status inside Somalia. MSB who had a soft spot for his reer abti removed it when he came into power, and gave you positions in Kismayo as the mayors. You were nothing pre msb you became nothing after 1991. Anyways get ready to celebrate if hag wins, it will be a historic day for ogaden who never held a senior office in somalia. Big deal for the 1 city and 1 town controlling clan.

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Re: Deni caves in

Postby Caytame » Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:15 pm

^ :lol: waryaa msb was the product of ogaden, we groomed him in the hinterland of qoraxay, the land of the brave. We kept him in power and when he turned his back on his ancestral homeland and signed it over to mingistu, we removed him.
farmaajo is following the same script. we made him, and got him elected, and now he's chosen to fight ogaden, you'll see him running like a bitch like his adeer, who by the way, you couldn't even defend despite having all the tanks and military hardware of the country.

fulaya hadal quutayaal ah oo marka xabada kor loo ridaba cagaha wax ka daya weeye midgaha marehan. :lol:

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Re: Deni caves in

Postby Sbashi » Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:57 pm

^ :lol: waryaa msb was the product of ogaden, we groomed him in the hinterland of qoraxay, the land of the brave. We kept him in power and when he turned his back on his ancestral homeland and signed it over to mingistu, we removed him.
farmaajo is following the same script. we made him, and got him elected, and now he's chosen to fight ogaden, you'll see him running like a bitch like his adeer, who by the way, you couldn't even defend despite having all the tanks and military hardware of the country.

fulaya hadal quutayaal ah oo marka xabada kor loo ridaba cagaha wax ka daya weeye midgaha marehan. :lol:
:russ: :russ: nice to know saxib. One more thing, the land wasnt handed over, you guys ruined it. After msb settled you in SL and made you WSLF. You started karbaashing the isaaq leading to snm and all the bs that followed it. Also finally. Ogaden rebelled and were the last to rebel. And it wasnt even rebel you just sided with hawiyr not even darood groups like mj. Anyways we both know each other. And shilabo when msb was born was mx headquarters. No cagdheer was in sight.

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Re: Deni caves in

Postby grandpakhalif » Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:18 pm

Yup its confirmed JL is the last renegade state under Madoobe to refuse to submit their electoral commission delagates PL has already done so. MJ are more gob than I thought instead of allying with failed HAG leaders in Al Jazeera they have chosen to not delay elections.


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Re: Deni caves in

Postby paperino » Sun Nov 29, 2020 4:46 pm

Yup its confirmed JL is the last renegade state under Madoobe to refuse to submit their electoral commission delagates PL has already done so. MJ are more gob than I thought instead of allying with failed HAG leaders in Al Jazeera they have chosen to not delay elections.

Isn't SL another renegade state?

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Re: Deni caves in

Postby BigBreak » Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:46 pm

Puntland is the only regional state that the paper central government of so called Somalia has 0% control over.....what an embarrassment :lol:

Let's hope the other countries of the Horn (Ethiopia, Djibouti, Somaliland and Eritrea) never suffer either fragmentation or state failure which so called Somalia has suffered from both for decades now


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