Kenya-Ethio meet: Perspective on timing, occurrence, and salient mssg

[Voltage]

1. Ethiopia was supposed to open the Moyale border point during last year's "Jubbaland elections."
2. Ethiopia saw KDF humiliation stunt when it turned around the helicopter of Ethiopia AMISOM that came from Baidoa.
3. Ethiopia will never let this go until eternity if that's how long it takes for a "fitting response" to that stunt.
3. Abiye Gov made 0 (ZERO) effort to pick up where the relationship left off until now when they defeated TPLF and captured Mekelle going door to door.
4. Even the "timing" is a show of force with Abiye Gov that is now as powerful as it could be inside Ethiopia having vanquished their primary domestic political rival and a "gov within gov."
5. The pleasantries are absolutely what Ethiopia wants Kenya to see like "uhmm, this is what you are jeapordizing."

6. Finally, the message being delivered to Kenya has the stamp of three states; Ethiopia, Eritrea, and Somalia.

Kenya will be told in person, the Horn's consensus for Somalia elections is to support the continuence of this present government and the "Horn" will do everything in its power to prevent an negative influence by any other foreign influence."

Everything else including KDF Amisom, Madoobe, etc are temporary nothing burger once the current government overcomes the current elections if Kenya has not heeded the warning by then.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Voltage,

Where's Djibouti in this and where is Sudan as well.

[Caytame]

translation for anyone who can't be bothered to read that load of BS:

"Ethiopia please save my uncle farmaajo, he has prostituted himself to you, please save us from axmed madoobe and the ogaden boogyman"

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

translation for anyone who can't be bothered to read that load of BS:

"Ethiopia please save my uncle farmaajo, he has prostituted himself to you, please save us from axmed madoobe and the ogaden boogyman"

Sxb if you're so tough why you scared to face us without KDF? You are worthless. I don't believe your clan deserves to exist. As they only use foreigners to fight their battles. I really hate worthless Daroods like you.

[Caytame]

^aamus waryaa, Ethiopia is keeping you in gedo.

[Voltage]

translation for anyone who can't be bothered to read that load of BS:

"Ethiopia please save my uncle farmaajo, he has prostituted himself to you, please save us from axmed madoobe and the ogaden boogyman"

I champion Ethiopia precisely to remove Kenya out of the way. That way, I actually face Ahmed Madoobe man to man just like you want and deserve.

[Caytame]

translation for anyone who can't be bothered to read that load of BS:

"Ethiopia please save my uncle farmaajo, he has prostituted himself to you, please save us from axmed madoobe and the ogaden boogyman"

I champion Ethiopia

of course you do

[Voltage]

Voltage,

Where's Djibouti in this and where is Sudan as well.

Djibouti's outsized role is sort of over. Playing "kingmaker" is only relevant in so far as there isn't a consensus among the big players. There is a consensus now.

Sudan has had a transformative experience the past couple years which have essentially caused it to withdraw and become insular;

1. The breakup of the country, including much of the money making resources
2. The Darfur sanctions and retreat inward
3. Finally, the overthrow of the long regime and the growing pains the country is still undergoing internally

Sudan is sort of over in the Horn.

[Voltage]

translation for anyone who can't be bothered to read that load of BS:

"Ethiopia please save my uncle farmaajo, he has prostituted himself to you, please save us from axmed madoobe and the ogaden boogyman"

I champion Ethiopia

of course you do

So don't be cheesy again expecting me to play your corny reverse psychology. I don't know if you notice, but I am not a "5 Star" guy of baseless irredentism. The Ogaden is Ethiopia, the NFD is Kenya, and even Somaliland is deserving of independence provided there is self-determination for all. I have on consistent basis disavowed "nationalism" for a long time. When I champion rule of law and development for Somalia as it exists, it has nothing to do with ethnic Somali nationalism which I believe was Siad Barre's single biggest mistake.

[Caytame]

^so you agree, siyaad barre was an Ethiopian agent who became president of Somalia so he could destroy it, and destroy it he did?

[UgaaskaBarakaysan]

I champion Ethiopia

of course you do

So don't be cheesy again expecting me to play your corny reverse psychology. I don't know if you notice, but I am not a "5 Star" guy of baseless irredentism. The Ogaden is Ethiopia, the NFD is Kenya, and even Somaliland is deserving of independence provided there is self-determination for all. I have on consistent basis disavowed "nationalism" for a long time. When I champion rule of law and development for Somalia as it exists, it has nothing to do with ethnic Somali nationalism which I believe was Siad Barre's single biggest mistake.

This is a post that I can get fully behind.

And just to put the jl issue into perspective, madoobe would not want a head to head scenario which was evident when he was the only FMS rep at the recent meeting calling for AMISOM's mandate to be extended.

I'm sure he remembers his days in the jungles with an cimamad running with the multi clan icu/shabab groups. Since he could not use a clan banner to gain any sort influence/power as was evident the south's power structure mainly broke into:

snf/usc or jva/srrc this new governmental structure with no foreign forces will be interesting times once again with no irredentism that is over and done with.

[Voltage]

2011

ONLF should just give in and work within Federal Ethiopia.

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Postby Voltage » Wed May 11, 2011 1:06 pm

Fighting for ethnic secessionism and petty revolutionaries and counter-revolutionaries are so played out in my opinion. I mean look at Somalia with a majority stock sharing same culture, language, culture, etc. Where is peace and prosperity? Yet the most prosperous countries are almost always multi-cultural and multi-ethnic. What is the point of continuing to fight for ethnic irredentism in this fast globalizing world? The whole nation-state is increasingly being marginalized by multinationals. Should ONLF continue the emotional notions of pride and honor and not giving in or should they become practical and accept the state the world recognizes they are part of and work from within? The outcome might surprise us all. I am reminded of the old adage it is better to bring in a horse with sugar than the whip.

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=276053

2018

Well then why not apply the same standard for the people’s of the Occupied Western Somali? They suffer more than the Palestinians.

I don't consider them occupied. I think they are part and parcel of Ethiopia just as I think Northeastern province is part and parcel of Kenya just like the Wolof live in both Senegal and Gambia and the Fulani from Nigeria to Mali, etc.

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 0&t=391097

It is one of those odd things that people say about me "Voltage tries to be a nationalist." I do not. I hate nationalists or nationalism especially the ethnic kind of Somali irredentism. Saddam will be a witness here the many private convo I have had with him about NN twitter kids and how I believe they are overly emotional, juvenile, and backward on the issue of ethnic nationalism. I champion the rule of law, development, and vitality of the Somali State as a practical matter. I am not even a "patriot" and on many occasions I have advised those under "nationalism" should switch it for "patriotism" which is wanting good for your country, but not at the expense of another.

To this effect, my position on Somaliland has been unchanged for as long as my position on "the 5 Star irredentism" has been unchanged. I have already accepted the right of those that want to leave to leave, I am not against Somaliland independence as a principle matter; but I assure you there will be self-determination for all as well.

2010

Re: Independece for somaliland, your thoughts???

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Postby Voltage » Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:12 pm

I support it with self-determination for reer Sool and Sanaag

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 5#p2762361

Re: Independece for somaliland, your thoughts???

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Postby Voltage » Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:26 pm




yunis09 wrote:



Voltage wrote:
I support it with self-determination for reer Sool and Sanaag .
so voltage you will support my-self determination in sanaag along with sl

I support the self-determination of SNM Somalis if they want to leave but since the historical colonial territory includes Somali clans who do not hold themselves under British lines on the desert and have qualms about seceding, I support their self-determination to stay inside Somalia if they chose to.

So Caytame, never play that reverse psychology game where I stand particularly when you are literally facilitating a foreign nation in Somalia bombing and attacking us.

[Caytame]

^yoolkaayagu waa "gumeeya reer gedo"

i don't give a toss if the entirely world crumbles in the process.

idinkoo dawlad dhan ah, macal Ethiopia dusha ku wata inaad calacashaan waa ceeb. xaarka cesho.

[Voltage]

^yoolkaayagu waa "gumeeya reer gedo"

i don't give a toss if the entirely world crumbles in the process.

idinkoo dawlad dhan ah, macal Ethiopia dusha ku wata inaad calacashaan waa ceeb. xaarka cesho.

I don't think you are a very intelligent person.

Often, you completely ignore what I actually communicated to facetiously confirm your own assumptions.

For example, your ability to "care" is entirely irrelevant according to my judgement. I literally explained why I am adamantly opposed to KDF and their puppets. Their level of "care" is hardly relevant in response to me considering I laid out why I champion another foreign entity to even the field for me and to provide an opposite force to KDF.

[Caytame]

All I hear is "kenya bad"
"Ethiopia good"

You're inconsistent to say the least. You support and oppose the same damn thing. confused ass nigga.

got anything else Mr. traitor?