Farmaajo should personally & genuinely reach out to Hassan Sheekh and Sh Shariif.

[Voltage]

1. This is not a Zero-Sum game. In a democracy, the political actors are competitors on the ballot but citizens in the process.

2. The goal should not be perpetual enmity; which is a victory for foreign meddlers to begin with. If one opposes Kenyan and UAE interference, start with indicting your relationship with your own countrymen that is being manipulated to advantage.

3. I am hearing that Indhacade's paradoxical "armed-insurrection-night-before-peaceful-protest-surprise" has shamed Hassan Sheekh and Sheikh Sharif who initially claimed the government attacked their hotel.

4. Subsequently, the "half-dozen-strong-armed-hooliganism-taunting-security-forces" that became the " peaceful protest" has inspired the two previous leaders to reflect more deeply about where things have come to.

5. Farmaajo should move fast; Promptly---with integrity, good will, and genuine honesty. Farmaajo must help plant the seed after the bush fire that becomes the next blooming field.

6. He should personally reach out to Hassan Sheekh and Sheekh Shariif as dhigiisa, invite them with honors to Villa Somalia, and must go from enmity to not just in communication with them, but even utilizing them as the nation's peace envoys/nabadoono to help bring solutions in moments like this.

[Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE]

Nah he should arrest them spoilers

[Voltage]

Nah he should arrest them spoilers

Smile, the "spoilers" are outside the country.

The authorities can't fix the drug problem in a neighborhood by going hard against the neighborhood sons doing marginal low-level deals on a block here and there (ironically even pushed to do that because of the economic problems in the n'borhood).

They gotta go take on the big boss importing that shit in the first place and controlling the game.

The political opposition are not the "enemy" and furthermore having difference of opinion is legitimate and should not be viewed as deserving of state response (i.e. Farmaajo should defeat them at the ballot).

The "spoilers" are the ones taking advantage of our disagreements to cause the spoil.

Defeating that starts with not making enemy of the neighborhood.

[IRONm@N]

Stop spreading lies that every opposition leader is a an agent of a foreign power.
The whole Somali government is supported and funded by foreign powers like Turkey, USA, Amisom, IGAD.
When Farmaajo was mucaarad he was campaigning from Nairobi Kenya, nobody call him and agent of Kenya.
It’s the normal democratic process to have opposition parties to keep those in power in check and critic them, because normal citizens don’t care and will accept whatever fed through government sponsored media

[paperino]

Stop spreading lies that every opposition leader is a an agent of a foreign power.
The whole Somali government is supported and funded by foreign powers like Turkey, USA, Amisom, IGAD.
When Farmaajo was mucaarad he was campaigning from Nairobi Kenya, nobody call him and agent of Kenya.
It’s the normal democratic process to have opposition parties to keep those in power in check and critic them, because normal citizens don’t care and will accept whatever fed through government sponsored media

Are you implying Somalia is democratic or had democratic elections? For a country to function, power can only be in the hands of one party, else you get weak dysfunctional fiefdoms.

[Voltage]

Stop spreading lies that every opposition leader is a an agent of a foreign power.
The whole Somali government is supported and funded by foreign powers like Turkey, USA, Amisom, IGAD.
When Farmaajo was mucaarad he was campaigning from Nairobi Kenya, nobody call him and agent of Kenya.
It’s the normal democratic process to have opposition parties to keep those in power in check and critic them, because normal citizens don’t care and will accept whatever fed through government sponsored media

One of the reasons why I love reading declassified intelligence reports is what we find out definitively that previously couldn't be 100% substantiated because it had to come from the horse's mouth.

For example, declassified CIA intelligence reports have since definitively confirmed US active participation in the takedowns of Mohamed Mossadegh in Persia/Iran and Patrice Lumumba/Congo.

The problem with this is is declassification takes place decades after by law in the countries who do and there is no instituting body with that level of insight to confirm a state's own self-acknowledged interference.

However, we have the ICJ court case where in the written arguments between Somalia and Kenya of hundreds of pages the Somali government (from both the tenure of Hassan Sheekh and this one) minutely documents and shows (with rather interesting confirmation by Kenya but arguing dífferent intent/effect) the level of Kenyan and Foreign interference in the country since 2009 at least limited to the Sea Case.

Your beloved Ahmed Madoobe and that Vichy admin in Kismaayo is quite literally not only identified and detailed as a Kenyan project concerning the sea delimitation but is confirmed by Kenya as their project although not predicated or resulting from the sea case---where, again, Kenya doesn't deny WHAT but WHY

This is a court of international law mind you so this isn't random fake news from some discredited outfit like the UAE run "SomaliGuardian.com"

Along with that, there are tons of research f⁷ peer-reviewed journal articles respected investigative journalists like Jay Bahadur UN Monitoring report on Somalia sanctions who expose the extent of UAE and Kenya negative interference.

So please; have several seats.

[Voltage]

Stop spreading lies that every opposition leader is a an agent of a foreign power.
The whole Somali government is supported and funded by foreign powers like Turkey, USA, Amisom, IGAD.
When Farmaajo was mucaarad he was campaigning from Nairobi Kenya, nobody call him and agent of Kenya.
It’s the normal democratic process to have opposition parties to keep those in power in check and critic them, because normal citizens don’t care and will accept whatever fed through government sponsored media

Are you implying Somalia is democratic or had democratic elections? For a country to function, power can only be in the hands of one party, else you get weak dysfunctional fiefdoms.

Peperino, I have to interject here. One candidate, one continuous administration, and now one party? There is a very observable trajectory to your recent postings on this issue. I mean it looks subversive but I don't know for what or even why.

Simarly, I find you to be one of the most "aware" people on this forum particularly going by how clearly and quickly you get to the naked center of things (awareness obviously a quality just as as much making a committed humanitarian as well as the deceptive nihilist)----but there is always something incompletely imparted by your questions about democracy. They give the impression of "lead ons" just as much capable of being effected by a Rashid Abdi at Sahal/foreign spy as it is by a grooming jihadist.

It's fascinating minus the fact for possibly having offended you.

[Voltage]

Bump.

I will bump this consistently until I see it happen.

[FarhanYare]

Gee someone is making sense today, but am for the suggestion thrown by Smile da fuq does xasan shiq and shariif want? Like you had your turns back off, but Smile i will add once he arrests them he Farmajo should hand himself in for illegally squattering in villa Somalia. Do you agree Smile?

[xiimaaya]

Caqli 6 saac. A deer you can’t sit down with munafiq. You could genuinely have differences of opinions with someone but munafiq has no morals. He is not the master of his soul .

[Murax]

Voltage,


I typed almost two paragraphs saying why he should, but now I’m like screw it, I’m glad he humiliated them, and I hope he keeps doing it. The only currency Shariif, Culusow have is to run around saying ‘Waa Marexaan’ ‘’Waaa Marexaan’. You had Wallahi Thumma Billahi. Now here you have them reduced to changing where they sleep for safety, and reduced to writing daily letters to Beesha 6aad. Mac Sonkor Revenge is sweet

[Murax]

Voltage,


I typed almost two paragraphs saying why he should, but now I’m like screw it, I’m glad he humiliated them, and I hope he keeps doing it. The only currency Shariif, Culusow have is to run around saying ‘Waa Marexaan’ ‘’Waaa Marexaan’. You had Wallahi Thumma Billahi. Now here you have them reduced to changing where they sleep for safety, and reduced to writing daily letters to Beesha 6aad. Mac Sonkor Revenge is sweet

[FAH1223]

[Voltage]

Fah, there is nothing called Jubbaland. It is Madoobe and he is a brokem record at this point.

[FAH1223]

Fah, there is nothing called Jubbaland. It is Madoobe and he is a brokem record at this point.

This whole saga is a massive failure of governance and politics. Very disappointing how this has unraveled.