If NN loses the elections, it’s time to become ruthless Qaran Dumis

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

This is a thought theory not based in reality btw. I expect Farmaajo to win. Secondly, this is a worst case scenario.


I suggest utter and complete qaran dumisnimo. You can’t win in Somalia being the good guys Your own brothers will hate you for it. It’s time Mxs take a utter and complete destructive role in Darood affairs. It’s time we do targeted assassinations and cause utter chaos in PL and JL to the point nobody wins and it’s a perpetual hell. Make it so difficult that it becomes utterly impossible that those states function even. Secondly, there other ways to resist and even target our supposed “brothers” that I won’t discuss openly. Thirdly and lastly, the new generation are in agreement that the current status quo doesn’t benefit us, therefore it isn’t our job to be patriotic to a country that paid us back with Kenyans killing us. We owe no loyalty to Darood or Somalia as they are backstabbers. We sacrificed our development and self care for Somalinimo and tolnimo for Ogadens in the ‘77 war. We suffered 40yrs for it. Now they paid us back with this current fight. Therefore political violence is not just okay but justified. But I highly doubt we’ll lose this election. This is a thought experiment FYI. I’m a spiritual descendant of Ḥasan al-Ṣabbāḥ. A man whose order inspires me.

[Nomand]

If NN looses it will effect hawiye more then darod.

Sna won't be paid, no more massive projects like road constructions mogadishu to afgooyi and mogadishu to jowhar.

Civil servants in xamar won't be paid. As for puntland a HAG president will deal with them. HAG will be forced to split up jubbaland from puntland.

No matter who wins in 2021/2022 the OG question will be dealt with. Because of the traps farmaajo laid in 2021.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

If NN looses it will effect hawiye more then darod.

Sna won't be paid, no more massive projects like road constructions mogadishu to afgooyi and mogadishu to jowhar.

Civil servants in xamar won't be paid. As for puntland a HAG president will deal with them. HAG will be forced to split up jubbaland from puntland.

No matter who wins in 2021/2022 the OG question will be dealt with. Because of the traps farmaajo laid in 2021.

Not good enough and it’s wishful thinking. Next suggestions? That’s a big if. It can flip 360 against us. Therefore, your suggestions aren’t viable. Secondly, there’s no Darood for us. We are stand alone. I don’t belong to that clan family. I’m for MX not Darood. I didn’t see no benefits from Daroods. We need to eliminate them. I hate nuisances.

[grandpakhalif]

Why destroy when we can build!

We havent gained much under Farmaajo as long as Kismaayo is out of reach the status quo shall remain. I think we should declare a new JL with its temporary capital being Garboharray. We should try to solicit funds and mucaraad every govt to gain our development. We could completely neuter the current Mayor of Kismaayo by inviting the real JL stakeholders and moving forward from there. They shall flock to us because of their mistreatment in Kismayo. We shall declare a new JL!

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Why destroy when we can build!

We havent gained much under Farmaajo as long as Kismaayo is out of reach the status quo shall remain. I think we should declare a new JL with its temporary capital being Garboharray. We should try to solicit funds and mucaraad every govt to gain our development. We could completely neuter the current Mayor of Kismaayo by inviting the real JL stakeholders and moving forward from there. They shall flock to us because of their mistreatment in Kismayo. We shall declare a new JL!

Again not good enough. Are all you Reer Diini this weak willed and beggish? The current status quo was won by our enemies by Qaran Dhumisnimo. The dark side is better my friend.

[Nomand]

Kismaayo is similar to mogadishu in which who ever controls just that one city will be regarded as somali president or Jubbaland president even if they don't control anywhere else.

Since August 2019 there was suppose to be a grand shir and a new Jubbaland created but nothing so far. Puntland and madoobe will always be mucaarids to who ever sits on villa somalia. Villa Somalia at some point will directly deal with madoobe like how hassan sheikh did in 2013 except this time they will have whole of gedo behind them and the people of kismaayo.

Best suggestion is to when HAG come to MX. MX will need to make hard demands. Plus I don't think it is in the dhaqan of MX to do targeted assassination if it was we would have seen it happen in kismaayo.

Plus farmaajo gave madoobe 2 years and it ends in August 2021, I haven't seen anything from SFG which indicates that they are creating a new jubbaland and.blackie just picked a cabinet and won't step down.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Nomand,


Burn it all to the ground and stop giving in to Daroodnimo which is used against us. HAG will never accept a credible JL either. They prefer the current stalemate for their own benefits. Plus HAG don’t care about Kenya, they view them as not a threat. Burn Somalia to ground. You don’t owe Darood or Hawiye nothing. Reer Diini need to stop running away from their MXnimo and take a more aggressive stance. All you listed is correct. Whose fault is that but Farmaajo? We lost more for “Somalinimo” than we gained. Fuck that, if we’re gonna suffer. Make our enemies suffer too. Bila naxaris

[Kees70]

ReturnOfMariixmaan,

Why would NN lose this, NN has this in the big and is big Win for them if they play smart and start an succession agreement with someone who shares their ideology and plan for Somalia's future they can easily win and Farmaajos legacy will continue successfully, its when Farmaajo tries to be hardheaded and goes straight for re-election when he is already embattled and politically exhausted is when NN might lose as they will fracture politically, be like Putin and pass the torch to medvedev and rule with behind the scenes and come back again after 4 years should be the realistic goal.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

ReturnOfMariixmaan,

Why would NN lose this, NN has this in the big and is big Win for them if they play smart and start an succession agreement with someone who shares their ideology and plan for Somalia's future they can easily win and Farmaajos legacy will continue successfully, its when Farmaajo tries to be hardheaded and goes straight for re-election when he is already embattled and politically exhausted is when NN might lose as they will fracture politically, be like Putin and pass the torch to medvedev and rule with behind the scenes and come back again after 4 years should be the realistic goal.

Sxb, we have to close the chapter on Kenya and that’s our battle. Do you ever see MXs question HGs on their jihad on Ethiopia or A/Y? No, my region suffered the most especially my tuulos and sub from KDF airstrikes. Idc about the optics or politics this is personal. I don’t even mind HG being president as you’re a reliable ally. But I prefer we finish this war ourselves

[Nomand]

Saddam,

You are correct about HAG not wanting to see a strong jubbaland. But they will need to choose either a strong jubbaland that is independent from puntland or a super strong puntland that has jubbaland in their pockets.

I just think we need to be smart about what our options are if farmaajo leaves. Last thing we want is to have MJ reputation and burn somalia to the ground just for a seat. It will take a long time before somalis will allow MJ president because they did exactly that.

MX are known for good governance and let's all eat mentally which is why the next president after HAG would definitely be mx.

Long term mx will win. We are majority in kismaayo plus I will tell you one more thing. Today in 2021 we control more of the economy in kismaayo then we did at the height of barre hiiraale. Every mx that had a gun in kismaayo in 2005 now has a shop or a business and is making money and is settled with a family. Unuka leh kismaayo.

And the only thing missing from us today is the political leadership of kismaayo not population or economy. We Don't owe mj and og anything but rest of darod are my family. But I still think the ball is in NN court it is still and election they are favourites.

[Nomand]

ReturnOfMariixmaan,

Why would NN lose this, NN has this in the big and is big Win for them if they play smart and start an succession agreement with someone who shares their ideology and plan for Somalia's future they can easily win and Farmaajos legacy will continue successfully, its when Farmaajo tries to be hardheaded and goes straight for re-election when he is already embattled and politically exhausted is when NN might lose as they will fracture politically, be like Putin and pass the torch to medvedev and rule with behind the scenes and come back again after 4 years should be the realistic goal.

Do you think mahad salaad and odowaa will come back as mp's? That video you provided yesterday said that qoor qoor will make sure troublesome individuals will loose their seats.

Is he saying they are them?

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Saddam,

You are correct about HAG not wanting to see a strong jubbaland. But they will need to choose either a strong jubbaland that is independent from puntland or a super strong puntland that has jubbaland in their pockets.

I just think we need to be smart about what our options are if farmaajo leaves. Last thing we want is to have MJ reputation and burn somalia to the ground just for a seat. It will take a long time before somalis will allow MJ president because they did exactly that.

MX are known for good governance and let's all eat mentally which is why the next president after HAG would definitely be mx.

Long term mx will win. We are majority in kismaayo plus I will tell you one more thing. Today in 2021 we control more of the economy in kismaayo then we did at the height of barre hiiraale. Every mx that had a gun in kismaayo in 2005 now has a shop or a business and is making money and is settled with a family. Unuka leh kismaayo.

And the only thing missing from us today is the political leadership of kismaayo not population or economy. We Don't owe mj and og anything but rest of darod are my family. But I still think the ball is in NN court it is still and election they are favourites.

Fair assessment. But I disagree about this being fight about a “seat.” This is a fight about Kismaayo under foreign influence and that foreign influence having negative affect on JL and Gedo. Not about Kismaayo resources or business.

[grandpakhalif]

Why destroy when we can build!

We havent gained much under Farmaajo as long as Kismaayo is out of reach the status quo shall remain. I think we should declare a new JL with its temporary capital being Garboharray. We should try to solicit funds and mucaraad every govt to gain our development. We could completely neuter the current Mayor of Kismaayo by inviting the real JL stakeholders and moving forward from there. They shall flock to us because of their mistreatment in Kismayo. We shall declare a new JL!

Again not good enough. Are all you Reer Diini this weak willed and beggish? The current status quo was won by our enemies by Qaran Dhumisnimo. The dark side is better my friend.

What do you suggest exactly? Assasinations and disruption? These sound absolutely insane dude. We may disagree politically with our enemies but thats going too far. We can do best by working on our own state and creating a primary base so we dont need Xamar. Look at PL they exert their influence by being an autonomous state.

[Kees70]

ReturnOfMariixmaan,

Why would NN lose this, NN has this in the big and is big Win for them if they play smart and start an succession agreement with someone who shares their ideology and plan for Somalia's future they can easily win and Farmaajos legacy will continue successfully, its when Farmaajo tries to be hardheaded and goes straight for re-election when he is already embattled and politically exhausted is when NN might lose as they will fracture politically, be like Putin and pass the torch to medvedev and rule with behind the scenes and come back again after 4 years should be the realistic goal.

Sxb, we have to close the chapter on Kenya and that’s our battle. Do you ever see MXs question HGs on their jihad on Ethiopia or A/Y? No, my region suffered the most especially my tuulos and sub from KDF airstrikes. Idc about the optics or politics this is personal. I don’t even mind HG being president as you’re a reliable ally. But I prefer we finish this war ourselves

Bro Walahi Kenya will leave, i always say alhamdulilhai this wasnt Ethiopia meddling hard in Jubaland but its miskiinka amateur Kenya, i honestly believe that Ogs and Mx can easily reconcile if given the chance, its a good start that Mx got rid of their dabodhaliifs in Gedo, so now whats left is Reconciliation in Jubaland that only has MX and Ogs participating and no one else.

You siblings need an new accord thats 50-50 deal that satisfies all, no Zero-sum game for no one, look at Galmudug by example everyone is satisfied because no one got left behind, waa cadaalad rasmi sxb

Anyway brother, i underrstand your concern Kenya is cadow like Ethiopia was back during Meles and they need to go so that cousins can make peace in Jubaland.

So Guul Jubaland sxb

[Kees70]

ReturnOfMariixmaan,

Why would NN lose this, NN has this in the big and is big Win for them if they play smart and start an succession agreement with someone who shares their ideology and plan for Somalia's future they can easily win and Farmaajos legacy will continue successfully, its when Farmaajo tries to be hardheaded and goes straight for re-election when he is already embattled and politically exhausted is when NN might lose as they will fracture politically, be like Putin and pass the torch to medvedev and rule with behind the scenes and come back again after 4 years should be the realistic goal.

Do you think mahad salaad and odowaa will come back as mp's? That video you provided yesterday said that qoor qoor will make sure troublesome individuals will loose their seats.

Is he saying they are them?

Odawaa will return, simply because he is reasonable and was good to its constituent in Galmudug albeit became qabilist toward the end, but i doubt Mahad salaad because unlike odawaa who is controlled by by Fiqi-qoorqoor that mahad salaad is a wild card, as for Qoorqoor yes he did say that and even fiqi is trying to unseat Mahad salaad who is already deteriorating politically.