How come Somaliland is not allowed to be an independent country but South Sudan is ?

[Khalid Ali]

As I promised I would respond to you. Well the issue in here is all about clan formation and who does have the right to be a citizen of this great nation of Somaliland. From my point of view the new group cannot be Somalilander because they are disconnected from the land altogether for to long how ever they can be Somalilander in the long run in decades time. The reason I say this they might want re union with their previous clan in Somalia and this will kill the idea of seperate Somaliland. So I would say no. But you are right on one thing Somaliland is about being and having exclusive identity form the rest of Somalis. As the Northern men match forward we believe we were always different then the South. Since the time of adal and even before that.
Somalia citizenship is based on ethnicity why is this why can't there be just for Somalia citizen ship and Ethiopian or Kenyan or Djibouti somali can claim to be from Somalia which is absurd if you ask me. But why can't Somalia govt extend the same policy for bantus else where if bantu somalis are somalis why can't other bantus be somali citizens. See 2 can play that game. You want destroy somaliland from with in with other non native tribes. To somehow fight for your interest greater Somalia. But Somalia it self would be picking and choosing if it allows only some bantus to become citizens and not others.

[Gubbet]

1. No that is not true my friend. Somalia does not say of the Bantu races, ONLY Somali Bantu are eligible for Somali citizen.

I mean this is literally the point.

SOMALIA DOES NOT PLACE RESTRICTIONS ON WHO CAN BECAME CITIZEN OF SOMALIA BASED ON RACE, TRIBE, OR ETHNIC ORIGIN.

Think of it this way.


A. Indigenous African-Americans are natural born citizens of the US because of their original composition of the fabric of this nation. They are born citizens.
B. The US doesn't say ONLY indigenous African-Americans of the Black races can be citizens and no one else.
C. That's why I was able to become a citizen as a Black American, even though I am not indigenous African-America.

Somali Bantu are native to Somalia at foundation of fhe State. That's why they are natural citizens. But Somalia doesn't say, ONLY Somali Bantu of the Bantu races can become citizen.

2. Again, not true. Somalia has a unique 5 Star policy informing its history as you know---BUT THE SOMALI ETHNIC CLAUSE LEGALLY IS AN "EXPANSION" OF THE RULES OF ELIGIBILITY. IT IS NOT A RESTRICTION.

Somalia says "ALL" ethnic Somalis are eligible for citizenship wherever they live, but it is doesn't say "ONLY" ethnic Somalis are eligible for Somalia's citizenship.

I mean I don't know if you even know, but Somalia has 5 year residency main rule where any resident of the country legally becomes eligible for citizenship after thr 5th year of residency.

Compare that to Somaliland where;

A. ONLY specially identified clans within the Somali people (and not even all Somalis)
B. AND were present during the period of British Somaliland existence
C. AND were recognized under specal treaty

are eligible.

I don't think Somalilanders recognize how uniquely restrictive and exclusive ideas of citizenship are where Somaliland is concerned.

Most nations are going the OPPOSITE way.

They are EXPANDING eligibility, not limiting it.

Finally,

Thank you for answering the question although I don't think you fully yet appreciate how your request for recognition/independence is completely dependent on thr character being informed by British Somaliland experience as opposed to tribe

That group cannot become even eligible without relaxing the rules for other clans related to previous signatories otherwise it is just some tribal attempt with no legitimacy.

And last,

I am a direct son of Adal. In fac, there is not a single member of the constituent signatories of Britisb Somaliland that is directly named as part of the inheritance of Adal. I am---directly named in the Will and Testament.

If Somalilanf was being informed by legacy of Adal, I would be extended offer of citizenship with honor.

Somaliland is uniqie, but the uniqueness I clearly identified is informed by what makes jt even legally relevant; namely a unique experience as the territory of British Somaliland Protectorate.

Thanks again for giving me your perspective.

[TarTar]

The idoors are stupid motherfuckers they keep talking about the Walaweyn, how can he be the one stopping your itraaf when his own sister gets fucked every night in the ass by Amisom ?

Budhcadland is part of Walaweyn

Abdilahi Yusuf was the 1st Walaweyn leader under Amisom protection

[KUSH]

Somali-land is the land of the Somali. If you want to create some fake country go claim Iraq or some shit where that Arabian pedo came from.

[STARKAST]

Voltage is dismantling the SL ideology piece by piece. I'm still awaiting for folks to bring up daddy kufaar Britain and colonist borders.......

As a side point I would like to state that some MJ live in Sool with their dhulbahante kin. Can i get some bribe funds please ?

[Khalid Ali]

There are no mjs in Sool region there are absolutely no mjs in any part of Somaliland colonial Britain borders are sacrosanct like any part of Africa. The same the colonial border of Somalia and Kenya can't be changed or that of Somalia and Ethiopia. Or Somaliland and jabuuti

[STARKAST]

There are no mjs in Sool region there are absolutely no mjs in any part of Somaliland colonial Britain borders are sacrosanct like any part of Africa. The same the colonial border of Somalia and Kenya can't be changed or that of Somalia and Ethiopia. Or Somaliland and jabuuti

come on son, talk bout gabiley not waaqoyi bari , have you heard of xalin ?

[Khalid Ali]

No majeerteen owns any land in Sool or in Somaliland.