Danakils-Afars are Officially Classified as Critically Endangered Species

[Jabuutawi]

Today was the official designation of Danakils-Afars becoming critically endangered ethnic group, species. Once again, unsurprisingly, they mounted an attack and lost badly, real badly. Many high officers of the Afar regional government, including senior Afar Liyu commander and a high ranking regional official were sent to akhiro in the last 24 hours.

If my progenitor, Sheikh Ciise, and his band of kinfolks made the Afars 'vulnerable' as they traversed westward from Xiis/Maid, and his sons (my grand-fathers) culled their numbers even farther post-Adal thus rendering them as 'endangered', I can unequivocally say, with no hesitation, Danakils are critically endangered species as of today.

The contested three towns and a large swath of land are under our control. Sitti super zone is merely 50 miles away from the Amhara regional border.

[Gubbet]

I have met 1 Afar person in my entire life--and she speaks Somali. In fact, she is practically as Somali as I am. According to her, most Afar speak Somali to some extent and also consider themselves practically or the closest related group to Somalis.

And I met her through a Ciise Somali friend from Djibouti I used to go to high school with. I have hung out with them a million times.

I am not calling YOU anything, but what you keep writing here is evil. I really hope that Allah (swt) softens your heart on this issue and helps you reempower the humanity present in all of us.

Perhaps you have been affected or touched by this issue in ways that I can never comprehend, but this is not what any rational human being can condone. No Jabuutaawi, this is not right brother.

[zidane88]

The cannon fodder Afars has their asses been handed down to them.

[original dervish]

This very sad but understandable.........Savage region, savage people necessitates savage behavior.
Krannle need to take notes.

[TheGrumpyGeeljire]

Ciise waa rageedi. Cadowga canfarta cagtii mariyeen

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Gubbet,


This is one of the reasons why the young look up to me more than you in certain lanes. Ina adeerow, I detest IOG but I don’t detest Ciise, end of the day they are Somalis and Afars aren’t. Tolkay raac

[SunFromNorth]

Kill every single one of them rape even their old grandmothers and kill their babies in front of them burn their villages if somalis had done their genocide job good in Djibouti we not had lost the referendum to join Somalia, kill and kill and kill we the Somali people stand behind you

[Gubbet]

Gubbet,


This is one of the reasons why the young look up to me more than you in certain lanes. Ina adeerow, I detest IOG but I don’t detest Ciise, end of the day they are Somalis and Afars aren’t. Tolkay raac

I never asked them or anyone to look up to me. God forbid they do. I can even recommend them better inspiration anywherr.

For any young MX that has used the world wide web and celebrated coming across Voltage and his hobby of Marehan and Somali historical research, as some have noted to me, I prefer I impress and inspire them the most with appeals to good character, positive outlook, and conscious affirmation of the dignity of every human life created by God.

You have not only erred in creating something that doesn't exist (My Ciise Somali brothers vs I), but it had the effect of prejudicing the legitimate reason for my post Saddam; namely cautioning against incredibly damaging, even evil dehumanization of another poor, pastoral, and desperate Muslim, African group considered ethnic kins to our Somali.

I don't celebrate this as anything that can be informed by victory and passion.

May God stop the conflict and bring the Ciise and the Afar closer than two nursed by the same bosom! Amin.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Gubbet,


This is one of the reasons why the young look up to me more than you in certain lanes. Ina adeerow, I detest IOG but I don’t detest Ciise, end of the day they are Somalis and Afars aren’t. Tolkay raac

I never asked them or anyone to look up to me. God forbid they do. I can even recommend them better inspiration anywherr.

For any young MX that has used the world wide web and celebrated coming across Voltage and his hobby of Marehan and Somali historical research, as some have noted to me, I prefer I impress and inspire them the most with appeals to good character, positive outlook, and conscious affirmation of the dignity of every human life created by God.

You have not only erred in creating something that doesn't exist (My Ciise Somali brothers vs I), but it had the effect of prejudicing the legitimate reason for my post Saddam; namely cautioning against incredibly damaging, even evil dehumanization of another poor, pastoral, and desperate Muslim, African group considered ethnic kins to our Somali.

I don't celebrate this as anything that can be informed by victory and passion.

May God stop the conflict and bring the Ciise and the Afar closer than two nursed by the same bosom! Amin.

You could say that bro. But you gotta realize World Wide Web has influence. Something I lately understood to be true. For your point, absolutely no argument bro. But what’s depressing about this is; won’t change no matter what you do. No point to ME being moral when others aren’t sworn to those values. But that’s me tho. One of the reasons I admire you, is your humanist ideals. I wish I had the same patience. But I don’t. It’s a very dark and cold world. Human nature is more powerful than morality and ethics. Everything is natural law of the JUNGLE. This I know to be true ina adeer. Very well. I’m a plebeian not a patrician. No pun intended but that’s Reer Guuri in me hahaha

[Gubbet]

There is actually an interesting and philosophical argument arising from your honesty.

So there are two things

-Political positions
-Values/belief system

Political positions can be changed and effected differently, even utilize different strategy if they seem unlikely to be successful... Essentially as you have expressed, even sometimes employ pragmatism (if you can't beat them, at least stop resisting if not join)

But what we believe and value that informs our character and sense of morality and ethics----thosr things are not transactionary. You can't just change it like changing your political candidate or position on something.

I think the more one understands somali history, the more alienated they become from how the somali way of life has caused particularly entrenched ways of looking at the world and at each other that are fundamentally reactionary and instructive as opposed to measured and constructive. For you see Saddam, our culture is the most insecure, unstable, inconstant, fragile and vulnerable in the entire world evidenced our state of lawlessness.

As a logical human being, you don't need ti study Somali history to theorize there is a weakness, even a sickness in the base of the Somali value system that produces the visible malady of the people following the culture.

If I am sick, I go to the hospital Saddam.

And to prevent getting sick, I take precautions from coming down with or picking up germs and viruses---I wouldn't actively give myself up to it by discarding my precautions.

I refuse to ever surrender to what I observe to be the ilnesses at the base of our culturto and furthermore, I will identify the worst of its excesses amd caution against the surrender of so many of our will in the face of it

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

There is actually an interesting and philosophical argument arising from your honesty.

So there are two things

-Political positions
-Values/belief system

Political positions can be changed and effected differently, even utilize different strategy if they seem unlikely to be successful... Essentially as you have expressed, even sometimes employ pragmatism (if you can't beat them, at least stop resisting if not join)

But what we believe and value that informs our character and sense of morality and ethics----thosr things are not transactionary. You can't just change it like changing your political candidate or position on something.

I think the more one understands somali history, the more alienated they become from how the somali way of life has caused particularly entrenched ways of looking at the world and at each other that are fundamentally reactionary and instructive as opposed to measured and constructive. For you see Saddam, our culture is the most insecure, unstable, inconstant, fragile and vulnerable in the entire world evidenced our state of lawlessness.

As a logical human being, you don't need ti study Somali history to theorize there is a weakness, even a sickness in the base of the Somali value system that produces the visible malady of the people following the culture.

If I am sick, I go to the hospital Saddam.

And to prevent getting sick, I take precautions from coming down with or picking up germs and viruses---I wouldn't actively give myself up to it by discarding my precautions.

I refuse to ever surrender to what I observe to be the ilnesses at the base of our culturto and furthermore, I will identify the worst of its excesses amd caution against the surrender of so many of our will in the face of it

Very alienated and to me it’s the prolonged civil war which ensures one faction doesn’t get monopoly on violence. It’s this Eurocentric nacnac of consensus and everybody at the table. I resent it deeply and detest it as it isn’t natural to the Somali module of civilization. Which is whole other topic. Back to your point. You think my pragmatism is wrong in essence? You can’t push humanist ideals unless you have the power to push and sell it to them. Somalis need order, big order. Thry resent the leaders who do good for them. They are like stupid chuldren. Even a young man like me is unimpressed with their level of sophistication. They won’t follow anything unless complied. It’s the nomadic arrogance in our culture.

[Gubbet]

No, I think the opposite about pragmatism actually. 95% of change results directly from pragmatism, the last 5% when the finished car is going for that paintjob and smooth polish, is idealism.

But to be honest, I don't think you are pragmatic at all though bro. Nor really even an idealist... in fact your resignation in the last two posts about not going against the grain is firm evidence of this observation.

You are a "realist" and what you believe in is the real (assumed or even wanted) "power" of tradition. Saddam, we call that a Conservative.

You are a Conservative. A conservative is a resistanr force to change while pragmatism vs idealism are competing methods for change.

I will give you one example; the Janan Beled-Xaawo reception. By now we know it directly effected the politicization of the security forces that led to the scenes in Mog.

I absolutely foresee the possibility and in fact, we still are underestimating the true extent of its impact---but the thing js, this was not difficult or unique to predict. You knew in your heart the perception it created, but the truth is like 99% of Marehan, you didn't care. No Somali group would have either... because the traditional Somali way of doing things informs, it was good for Marehan as assumed and that was all there is to jt.

I actually reached my position BY EXPLICITLY ASKING MYSELF WHAT WOULD BE THR MOST PRAGMATIC COURSE.

-Not realism informed by tradition (he is a strong warlord, people die all the timeblah blah let's give the sonomabitch a party)

and

-Not idealism informed by lalaland (don't meet him or accept a surrender, get the amnesty and this and that and make splace)

but pragmatism; what would be the most pragmatic course and you know what I thought? Something that

1. Brings peace to Marehan
2. Does not offend the nation
3. And can be net positive in the elections

The only way that could happen was

1. Compromise behind the scenes (assure him, his freedom will be respected amd guaranteed)
2. Once Agreement was reached, receive him AT THE BORDER in a solemn and serious manner
3. Have him voluntarily extend his hands for arrest immediately flyijg him out to Mog
4.Go through a month long court process, while his boys are received back into society welcoming them
5. Publicly in video court judgement, have the judge make the argument for why goverment reached a plea deal (how many cars and guns he brought, his promise for good behavior, recognition of his influence to support Reconciliation, etc)
6. Send him back to Gedo to home coming he wasn't supposed to have in the beginning


I mean I wish someone in Farmaajo's government could have thought about this.

I actually described this on the day of the surrender id you recall and now IN HINDSIGHT, my God am I even more sure it would have been a million times better than what happened.

It didn't require more money, or time, or evem effort... It only required A PRAGMATIC INTENTION EXISTING AMONG THE CHOICES ORIGINALLY PRESENTED to Farmaajo.

You see Saddam, the Somali government is a lot like the country and people of Somalia; there is not a lot of pragmatism in approach and too much rigidity, inflexibility, and conservative approach and methodology.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

No, I think the opposite about pragmatism actually. 95% of change results directly from pragmatism, the last 5% when the finished car is going for that paintjob and smooth polish, is idealism.

But to be honest, I don't think you are pragmatic at all though bro. Nor really even an idealist... in fact your resignation in the last two posts about not going against the grain is firm evidence of this observation.

You are a "realist" and what you believe in is the real (assumed or even wanted) "power" of tradition. Saddam, we call that a Conservative.

You are a Conservative. A conservative is a resistanr force to change while pragmatism vs idealism are competing methods for change.

I will give you one example; the Janan Beled-Xaawo reception. By now we know it directly effected the politicization of the security forces that led to the scenes in Mog.

I absolutely foresee the possibility and in fact, we still are underestimating the true extent of its impact---but the thing js, this was not difficult or unique to predict. You knew in your heart the perception it created, but the truth is like 99% of Marehan, you didn't care. No Somali group would have either... because the traditional Somali way of doing things informs, it was good for Marehan as assumed and that was all there is to jt.

I actually reached my position BY EXPLICITLY ASKING MYSELF WHAT WOULD BE THR MOST PRAGMATIC COURSE.

-Not realism informed by tradition (he is a strong warlord, people die all the timeblah blah let's give the sonomabitch a party)

and

-Not idealism informed by lalaland (don't meet him or accept a surrender, get the amnesty and this and that and make splace)

but pragmatism; what would be the most pragmatic course and you know what I thought? Something that

1. Brings peace to Marehan
2. Does not offend the nation
3. And can be net positive in the elections

The only way that could happen was

1. Compromise behind the scenes (assure him, his freedom will be respected amd guaranteed)
2. Once Agreement was reached, receive him AT THE BORDER in a solemn and serious manner
3. Have him voluntarily extend his hands for arrest immediately flyijg him out to Mog
4.Go through a month long court process, while his boys are received back into society welcoming them
5. Publicly in video court judgement, have the judge make the argument for why goverment reached a plea deal (how many cars and guns he brought, his promise for good behavior, recognition of his influence to support Reconciliation, etc)
6. Send him back to Gedo to home coming he wasn't supposed to have in the beginning


I mean I wish someone in Farmaajo's government could have thought about this.

I actually described this on the day of the surrender id you recall and now IN HINDSIGHT, my God am I even more sure it would have been a million times better than what happened.

It didn't require more money, or time, or evem effort... It only required A PRAGMATIC INTENTION EXISTING AMONG THE CHOICES ORIGINALLY PRESENTED to Farmaajo.

You see Saddam, the Somali government is a lot like the country and people of Somalia; there is not a lot of pragmatism in approach and too much rigidity, inflexibility, and conservative approach and methodology.

I’m a libertarian actually. A very keen libertarian that’s for property rights, freedom of speech, individualism and positive rights of the people. The Somali people have a right to freedom in political and social affairs. The Somali people have a right to set the rules and laws of their country. Whether that is based on our traditional cultures and civilization or one based on another culture. I’m big on natural rights and respecting the only mode of justice and that’s Xeer. Xeer can be the the glue that ties to Somalis to a new understanding of civilization. The only problem it has, it was never codified in a Napoleonic code way. It’s jungle rules and can’t build a civilization with that thinking.

I’m conservative yes in limiting foreigners and their meddling and Somalis have full autonomous control of their lands and institutions. Yes, I’m a bit “Blood and Soil” a la Carl Schmitt - but I’m progressive in woman rights, protection of the weak, the promotion of social good in having food, health, education for the masses. Those progressive values I’m not gonna lie are informed by my Kacaan sympathies but no I’m definitely not a leftist in any sense ngl. However, I’m open to their suggestions if works within the Xeer customs of the people. Also, my view maybe informed by my nomadic background and doesn’t take into account the philosophical views of the agriculturalists in our community with their own laws, and language and customs - the Reewin (Rahanweyn). My Somali chauvinism is open to all Somali strata and classes, that’s the populist aspect of it. What makes me regressive however is the current politics and again that’s without having a “Grand Xeer” that speaks to the times and settles the political disunity.

The culture should be built and it must be built to create unity and social consensus. Somalia needs a cultural revolution - this is where I’m influenced by Maoist thought and Siad Barre resonates with me the most - how he united a people to bring forth a epoch of industry and cultural renaissance that still felt today and fought by those who felt left out. The best path to peace and civilization is law that is willfully accepted and swiftly executed. That’s a modern Xeer with enforceable authority. But I’m a libertarian in the sense I don’t want tyranny but I want order so the Somali civilization can grow.

I blame cosmopolitanism that was aped by Europhiles that lead to swamp of foreign countries and foreign troops that have taken the liberty of our people and their autonomy that keeps them weak. I’m a reactionary to the Manifesto group and Abdullahi Yusuf/Ali Mahdi school of interventionism by foreign allies. Yes and proudly so! However, I struggle with this myself I’m not gonna lie - my reactionary instinct can be seen as maximalist and fascistic - again that’s my natural revulsion of the ideology I despise nothing more and less. The new generation are builders. But to build you must get rid with those with regressive destructive thinking. You know me well, I ape my enemies but I’m far more sophisticated than them. That’s why they don’t know how fight back. This game is far more dense and cunning than what they played the last 30 yrs than a young man who rewrote the rules in front of them. I’m a disruptor, that’s what change leaders do. Do you understand me?

[Jabuutawi]

Guushana waan xabaarta, that is right @Zidane, @Grumpy Geeljire, @ Mariixman danta guud ee Somali waan ina ilaalshana

@ SunfromNorth Let us not stoop to the Dankali level. Yes, they slaughtered 2 years old kids' and an elderly man in his 90s in Cadeyti town with knives. They didn't want to waste their bullets on hapless, easy prey, so they slaughtered them like you would a sheep. Exacting revenge in such capacity is an anathema to our Xeer and as Somalis. Putting a bullet between the eyes of the midget Danakali male would suffice.

@OD and Babile, Bale, and Karanle maxaa kala heesta

@Guddet, sxb talo meesha kuma heesiday iskaga noqo magaci hore Let me ask you a serious question, did you major in Pol-Sci or one of the other disciplinary in social sciences in college? Truthfully, 9/10 folks don't bother finishing reading your posts, maybe that 1/10, which Mariixman belongs to, responds to you in detail. No hard feelings brother.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Jabutaawi,

Don’t confuse me at all. I still detest IOG and his influence in Somalia. I see him as one of the most destructive influences ever in internal Somali politics whose influence must be wiped out of Somalia. Whether you take it as a hostility towards Ciise that’s up to you. But you shouldn’t have 8 MPs when u don’t have degaan for it. When other clans don’t have the same blood rights in Djibouti. Djibouti grew rich off our current state. Also, the “Aabo” of Djibouti is nothing but a cheap rip off of the Jaale. He stole his 4.5. idea and appropriated it as his own idea to the point he calls himself the father of Somali studies due to the new Somali language center in Djibouti. The Carta conference is still the worst waste of institutional state building. It should be revoked. Don’t mistake my current support as support of Djiboutian government. I’m hostile to the current regime. Kala saar sxb.