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Resurgent SNA is crushing Al Shabaab, AS controls less than 11% of territory!

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Resurgent SNA is crushing Al Shabaab, AS controls less than 11% of territory!

Postby ReturnOfMariixmaan » Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:56 pm

With the recent Blitzkrieg of the SNA in Galmudug and Lower Shabelle. With more operations in the pipeline coming as well. I’m liking the new emphasis on counterterrorism and national security. Good job to the national security team in VS :up: :som:





Also in the news, PM Rooble meets with the foreign minister of Ireland who also the defense minister as well. Interesting development. Still skeptical that anybody will take us seriously but this hopeful signs. We’ll see where this new energy takes us but I like it as well.




Also, the fight against terrorism isn’t a partisan issue. I also commend PSF for their pragmatic statement on the fight against the Khawarji filth. Terrorists are our common enemy!


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Re: Resurgent SNA is crushing Al Shabaab, AS controls less than 11% of territory!

Postby ReturnOfMariixmaan » Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:38 pm

I also would like to commend Gen. Tahlil Bixi, general of SNA ground forces and Cmdr. Sanka of the 21st division of the SNA alongside the Galmudug Security forces and their fight against the violent extremists. Their dedication has led to the capture of a high value target of Al Shabaab. Funny how they let all the footsoliders die but their leadership always gives themselves up!




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Postby BigBreak » Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:27 pm

Eliminating terrorism is one thing, entirely fixing the failed state that is Somalia is quite another. The SFG controls less than 10% of Somalia and the 3 gareen states can easily turn against Farmajo if they want

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Postby ReturnOfMariixmaan » Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:33 pm

Eliminating terrorism is one thing, entirely fixing the failed state that is Somalia is quite another. The SFG controls less than 10% of Somalia and the 3 gareen states can easily turn against Farmajo if they want
I disagree. National security and counterterrorism needs to be above partisan politics. There needs to be a bipartisan consensus on eliminating these violent extremists. And your thinking isn’t conducive to that goal. Somalia being a state that can handle its own affairs is something that is non-negotiable. I vehemently disagree with you in the strongest terms. The era of the world fixing Somalia’s problems is over! Somalis should take the lead and fix their own issues. And Al Shabaab can’t be fixed by foreigners no matter how many drone strikes they do! You have your right to your secessionist views. But what it sounds like to me is being covert support of the filthy Khawarji rats!

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Postby Turbulence » Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:57 pm

The 3 gareen states can easily turn against Farmajo if they want
This is why most thinking people in Somalia are against this version of federalism. It will become even a bigger headache in the future if things don't change. The good news is many in Somalia are realizing this and working to dismantle it.

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Postby BigBreak » Thu Jul 22, 2021 5:20 pm

RoM I am as staunchly against radical Khawarij scum like yourself but you have to understand, like your cousin Turbulence does, that unless there is a peaceful consensus on what is the nature and design of the Somalian state (civic federalism with strong centre vs clanist confederalism with weak centre) then your country will be be set for a new civil war particularly with JL Ogaden and Puntland enclave. It's illogical fighting kebab only to be dragged back to the square one called 1991

Me being a "secessionist" doesn't have any correlation to what's happening in your country (being pro SL independence does not mean secessionist)

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Re: Resurgent SNA is crushing Al Shabaab, AS controls less than 11% of territory!

Postby grandpakhalif » Thu Jul 22, 2021 5:26 pm

As long as they dominate the countryside and continue raking in money from extortion in Xamar and baadiya they dont need big cities to operate anymore government needs to go after the finances

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Postby ReturnOfMariixmaan » Thu Jul 22, 2021 5:45 pm

RoM I am as staunchly against radical Khawarij scum like yourself but you have to understand, like your cousin Turbulence does, that unless there is a peaceful consensus on what is the nature and design of the Somalian state (civic federalism with strong centre vs clanist confederalism with weak centre) then your country will be be set for a new civil war particularly with JL Ogaden and Puntland enclave. It's illogical fighting kebab only to be dragged back to the square one called 1991

Me being a "secessionist" doesn't have any correlation to what's happening in your country (being pro SL independence does not mean secessionist)
I can’t speak for Puntland but one thing that I respect about them is zero tolerance for Khawarji filth. Secondly, the notion of a civil war is played and out of date! Federalism will remain but what form it takes and what the final constitution looks like is another debate. But a strong centre with federalism isn’t the problem. It’s the same model of the US and Germany which I find tolerable. Puntland has a pragmatic side to it as well. The political dispute between us will be resolved politically not militarily. Jubaland is a state under foreign occupation that has a working relationship with the filthy terrorists. And Madobe hasn’t made significant progress in the last 10 years. There goes your argument right there! However, I’m glad that you have a strong stance against the Khawarji, they are anti peace and development for all of us. Lastly, your views are secessionist, you believe in the sovereignty of Somaliland, which doesn’t bother me but realpolitik dictates it isn’t in your interest for a strong Somalia. Not saying you personally want that but that’s the nature of the beast my friend. And if i was in that situation, I’ll would choose that route! That’s my two cents sxb.

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Postby ReturnOfMariixmaan » Thu Jul 22, 2021 5:50 pm

As long as they dominate the countryside and continue raking in money from extortion in Xamar and baadiya they dont need big cities to operate anymore government needs to go after the finances
Sound and practical advice! Dismantling their financial apparatus and support is very key!

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Postby ReturnOfMariixmaan » Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:01 pm



I’m very happy for this burgeoning interest in Somalia by the US. Only criticism I have is that they should also open a branch of the coast guard in Puntland as well. Secondly, I would hope to see this same type of investment in the Somali Navy as well. I’ve been on record for this that PL needs their fair allocation of military resources and support as well. I’m for pragmatic partnership not cliché tribalism:
All he [Deni] does is care about is filling his stomach and fighting the last generation’s war instead of seeing opportunities to revival the state power of Somalia to defend its interests and Puntland’s interests (revival of the Somali Navy as Puntland has the longest coastline in Somalia). Our generation doesn’t respect men still stuck in the ‘91 mentality. How will that benefit us and help us defeat Al Shabaab? Those tribalizing SNA. Know your helping the likes of Deni, Cabdi Hashi, Madobe, and HSM who are stuck still in the delusional reality of the past.

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Re: Resurgent SNA is crushing Al Shabaab, AS controls less than 11% of territory!

Postby MrSinister » Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:29 pm

Good stuff. I’ve been seeing a lot of positive news from the FGS since Rooble became PM. The recent agreement between FGS and FMS on education is also a positive step. The focus should be on our common interests, the biggest being defeating terrorist scum where ever they are. Building a truly national military will take time, but this is a good start.

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Postby ReturnOfMariixmaan » Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:02 pm

Good stuff. I’ve been seeing a lot of positive news from the FGS since Rooble became PM. The recent agreement between FGS and FMS on education is also a positive step. The focus should be on our common interests, the biggest being defeating terrorist scum where ever they are. Building a truly national military will take time, but this is a good start.

A lot of progress being made against the Khawarji scum:








I’m surprised by the response by this Cadaan UNraac. Seems like they are sympathizing with the filth, objectively




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Postby ReturnOfMariixmaan » Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:56 am

If these two villages fall. Then Al Shabaab days in Mudug and Galgaduud are pretty much done. Inshallah, we’ll see


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Postby original dervish » Sat Jul 24, 2021 4:07 pm

I'll believe the SNA are winning the war against Al Shabaab when the capture CEEL BUUR.......everything else is just a photo op.

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Postby ReturnOfMariixmaan » Sat Jul 24, 2021 6:05 pm

I'll believe the SNA are winning the war against Al Shabaab when the capture CEEL BUUR.......everything else is just a photo op.
Fair point. I’m waiting on that too.


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