Senator candidate list Jubaland what do you guys think

[NGM]

Has Madoobe who hand picked these candidates in the most corrupt way done good or bad, has he effed it up for himself or for Rer Jubaland.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

He f himself. That list is illegal bro. And done without our consultation. None starter bro.

[NGM]

Memebers of lower house (Parliament)
1. Cabdi Shire Jaamac, Wagardhac, Cumar Dheere GM
2. Dalays Xasan Aadan, Rer Hassan, Waaqmaashe JL
3. Sacdiyo Muuse C/laahi, Ali Dheere, Rer Sheekh JL
4. Farah Abdi Hassan “Kurweyne”, Rer Diini, Rer Maxamuud Guleed GM
5. Axmed Cismaan Ibrahim ”Daqara”, Rer Hassan, Rer Yusuf JL
6. Sagal Abdirisaaq Isaaq Biixi, Rer Diini, Rer Siyaad JL
7. Nadiifo Farax Jaamac, Rer Diini, Rer Koshin GM
8. Cabdullaahi Yuusuf Xasan “Alankeey”, Talxa, Cumar Ibrahim JL
9. Cabdicasiis Xaaji Adan, “Dhagoqool” Howrarsame JL
10. Maxamed Cali Xusen “Hashim” or Maxamed Salaad Nuunow “Haashim” Fiqi Yacquub JL
11. Maxamed Cali Magan, Rer Diini, Rer Ugaas Sharmaake JL
12. Cabdulqadir Adan Macalin ‘Siisi’, Rer Axmed JL
13. Dr Cabdi Cali Xasan, Urmidig JL
14. Cabdishakur Cali Mire, Rer Siyaad Xusen GM
Members of upper house (Senate)
1. Abdiwaxid Cilmi Cumar “Goonjeex”, Rer Diini, Rer Dalal GM
2. Cabdulahi Sheikh Ismaaciil “Fartaag” Rer Diini, Rer Ugaas Sharmaake JL
3. Mowliid Xuseen Guhaad, Rer Cismaan JL

All of the JL reps in both houses I want them gone and replaced with better representative of tolka, I also want to see restructure within Beesha for more unity and inclusion, solve the controversial monopolies etc, all the GM reps are good except for the Rer Koshin chick she needs to go, someone like Abdiwayeel would be suitable for that position, or another potential candidate, even there I prefer a non-Rer Koshin for more vigorous inclusion, but its not controversial seat.

[Nomand]

He f himself. That list is illegal bro. And done without our consultation. None starter bro.

kulaha he has not consulted us. kkkk thanks for the laugh. madoobe already has a prop for that he is called siyad adan.

the only change madoobe will do the list is he will add 1 or 2 more women that's it. As the list does not meet the 30 percent women quota.

[NGM]

He f himself. That list is illegal bro. And done without our consultation. None starter bro.

kulaha he has not consulted us. kkkk thanks for the laugh. madoobe already has a prop for that he is called siyad adan.

the only change madoobe will do the list is he will add 1 or 2 more women that's it. As the list does not meet the 30 percent women quota.

RoM is right, it is corruption and unfair election if Madoobe does not allow Reps from Garbaharey camp to send their candidates, this is what he is referring to when he say us, keyword "Garbaharey" not MX, not random JL elders and local politician locked up in a toilet in Kismaayo.

The fight here is over 20 odd reps in Kismaayo not the 16 secured ones in Garbaharey.
also check the code of the 2 MX senator seats, they are placed to Kismaayo.

[Nomand]

what ROM is wrong about is his assumption that blackie would be fair or consult anyone other than uhuru kenyatta. either fight madoobe inside kismaayo or put up with his crap. you asking for consultation is already a defeatist mentality and are accepting madoobe as a legitimate president of jubbaland. don't expect him to talk to odayaal in garbahareey he already sent mucalimo as his representative in gedo.

so should madoobe consult mucalimo?

the answer is very simple anyone madoobe names as senator for MX, beat the crap out of him, blackmail him and threaten his life until he leaves the sixir of madoobe.

madoobe is mafia, you only defeat mafia by being another mafia. i see a lot of MX trying to play by the book in a place where their are no books. lessons are being shown right infront of you but you are too blind to see it.

badbaado qaran should be your blueprints on how to get rid of madoobe. not laws and not secret agreements between the SFG and madoobe.

[NGM]

what ROM is wrong about is his assumption that blackie would be fair or consult anyone other than uhuru kenyatta. either fight madoobe inside kismaayo or put up with his crap. you asking for consultation is already a defeatist mentality and are accepting madoobe as a legitimate president of jubbaland. don't expect him to talk to odayaal in garbahareey he already sent mucalimo as his representative in gedo.

so should madoobe consult mucalimo?

the answer is very simple anyone madoobe names as senator for MX, beat the crap out of him, blackmail him and threaten his life until he leaves the sixir of madoobe.

madoobe is mafia, you only defeat mafia by being another mafia. i see a lot of MX trying to play by the book in a place where their are no books. lessons are being shown right infront of you but you are too blind to see it.

badbaado qaran should be your blueprints on how to get rid of madoobe. not laws and not secret agreements between the SFG and madoobe.

Pointing out Madoobe's corruption is not bad strategy, we are not surprised or expecting anything from him, we are pointing it out, I don't see why you going at RoM for pointing out corruption.

As for the traitors, believe you me we are not wasting time on consolidating every single ceeb tom and harry, intii la rabay waa la qanciye and that is why Gedo is now United, has political leverage and is a polity in its own right, this was done against all odds both foreign and domestic, that will not be sacrificed to get rid of Madoobe in a zero sum game, that will not be sacrificed for Kismaayao, but we are definitely going to continue how we are now, we are gucci now., we move towards a bright future, Madoobe is on his last legs, he has lost the regional battle, right now he is relying on a young mans ego and the Federal election, thats it for Madoobe.

[Nomand]

ROM is pointing out madoobe's corruption then expecting others to help him. when he said "none starter" he is expecting rooble and his gudi to go against madoobe's appointees but rooble other then the 30 percent women criteria does not give a rats ass who madoobe appoints.

your thinking and his thinking is still trying to play by the book something no one else does. another lesson was how deni chased doobo darod out of garoowe because doobo darod was pro N&N.

btw madoobe is not on his last leg people have been saying that for 10 years, it is what he wants you to think. It is a strategy he uses and with a good effect.

[nine]

ReturnOfMariixmaan and NGM

Madobe and his crew stays as long as KDF keeps them there. Anyone MX who believes otherwise is delusional. Take y'all dawladnimo wasiiro and dastuur and stick all of them where the sun don't shine. Fight him or stop your continuous N&N booto about his last legs. Farmajo is weak and MX want to stay nadiif. Get used to to the taste of Kenyan waterboy boots and Kenyan aistrikes.
Waxaa ku dhaarankaraa that Blackie outlasts Farmajo but I don't know the Unseen.

Go join Reer Eyle and Madhibaan.


Nomand

These are the consequences of abandoning warlordism. Imagine having faith in a government founded abroad and kept afloat from London Washington Addis and Nairobi. Marehan militia in Kismayo were regarded as TFG troops with Col Cabas as commander of the Jubas and Beesha 6aad were complicit when they were attacked. Here we have 2 idiots who think a Washington/London based government will kick out Madobe and give us our rights.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

NGM & Nine,

I point something out and this weirdo attacks me. Funny thing is I doubt he’s MX. He always makes excuses for Madobe in the creepiest way. Also, I agree until AMSOM leaves it’s no point tbf.

[Nomand]

ReturnOfMariixmaan and NGM

Madobe and his crew stays as long as KDF keeps them there. Anyone MX who believes otherwise is delusional. Take y'all dawladnimo wasiiro and dastuur and stick all of them where the sun don't shine. Fight him or stop your continuous N&N booto about his last legs. Farmajo is weak and MX want to stay nadiif. Get used to to the taste of Kenyan waterboy boots and Kenyan aistrikes.
Waxaa ku dhaarankaraa that Blackie outlasts Farmajo but I don't know the Unseen.

Go join Reer Eyle and Madhibaan.


Nomand

These are the consequences of abandoning warlordism. Imagine having faith in a government founded abroad and kept afloat from London Washington Addis and Nairobi. Marehan militia in Kismayo were regarded as TFG troops with Col Cabas as commander of the Jubas and Beesha 6aad were complicit when they were attacked. Here we have 2 idiots who think a Washington/London based government will kick out Madobe and give us our rights.

sad thing is majority of MX think like the two idiots. i have had many real life conversation with people and they all believe in that none sense.

[nine]

NGM & Nine,

I point something out and this weirdo attacks me. Funny thing is I doubt he’s MX. He always makes excuses for Madobe in the creepiest way. Also, I agree until AMSOM leaves it’s no point tbf.

"This is illegal" kulahaa Nomand is absolutely right. Call to arms or stop talking about USELESS token MPs and whatever Roble and Farmajo are cooking. The defeatist mentality of "we will respond to dil iyo dhac iyo boob by dastuur and negotiations" is disgraceful. If you think that way go join Reer Eyle and Madhibaan.

Respect yourself. If I was shisheeye I would disrespect us because I know I can kill and loot and violate MX with little to no reprecussions infact MX siyaasis will lick my boots.

Here we have 2 idiots who think a Washington/London based government will kick out Madobe and give us our rights.

sad thing is majority of MX think like the two idiots. i have had many real life conversation with people and they all believe in that none sense.

I remember some folks from tolka telling me Bu'aale waa la xoraynaa then we will have halal elections. As if capturing a shisheeye town (unprovoked) isn't xaaraan gardarro.

[Gubbet]

The fight here is over 20 odd reps in Kismaayo not the 16 secured ones in Garbaharey.

Something someone said sort of is interesting for pointing out a system malfunction or breakdown or incompletedness about this whole thing.

Because the constitution isn't complete and really even the entire foundation of some of the biggest institutions in the federal system is adhoc---"winging it---the Upper Househ, as one of the senior branches of government while simultaneously being THE LEAST CODIFIED/FINALIZED/SETTLED institutions constitutionally very clearly is right in front of our eyes showing to be the single LEAST accountable and the most ILLEGITIMATE representatives of the electorate.

For example, just like the MP seats have been "organized" around Federal states, we know this is artifucial "LIPSTICK ON A PIG" because the actual process governing the organization of MP Seats is Clan (4.5.)

So whether 4 MPs of the Marehan seats are reflected in "Galmudug" and 10 of the Marehan seats are reflected in Jubbaland....at the end of the day the 4 in Galmudug were not apportioned out of what Galmudug got and the 10 out of what Jubbaland got. They were apportioned by what MAREHAN got out of the the DAROD portion of 4.5

Got 14 out of the Darod 60 of the 200+ seats divided 4.5

Marehan had the same number of MPs in 2006 before Federalism, and had internally decided 4 of their seats would go to Marehan in central Somalia and 10 would go to Gedo Region.

Which all brings me back to SENATORS.

Marehan's 3 senators came out of what Marehan the clan baseline minimum deserved.

It wasn't because Jubbaland randomly chose to name 2 Marehan and Galmudug 1 Marehan.

No it was understood through 4.5 what Marehan baseline minimum was.

The fact 1 Senator seat was given out of the 3 to Marehan Central and 2 out of the 3 to Marehan Gedo reflects Marehan internal power sharing.

The basic reality informing our Senate seats is the same basic reality informing our MP seats.. namely our baseline equity as a CLAN measured by 4.5 standardization..

Yet while the MP seats being organized "officially" around Fed States has NO practical effect whatsoever on our ability as a clan to have basic accountability over our representatives as representing our equity under 4.5

THE FOCKING UPPER HOUSE SEATS WHICH EVEN EXIST IN THE FIRST PLACE AS A REPRESENTATION OF OUR EQUITY AS A CLAN UNDER FEDERALISM----IS PRACTICALLY AND EFFECTIVELY THROUGH THIS ELECTION AND CONSTITUTION GAPING OPEN HOLE NOTHING MORE THAN "STOLEN INHERITANCE" HIJACKED IN BROAD DAYLIGHT.

So I don't know about a clan using techniques of compulsion on the highly dangerous attempt to police and dictate political choices of government officials---BUT---the reason why this suggestion was even brought up is because there is festering gigantic PROBLEM HERE----namely there is an ILLEGITIMATE AND UNACCOUNTABLE SEAT IN MY NAME THAT DOES NOT FACTOR INTO THE ACTUAL WEIGHT OF MY EQUITY BUT YET EVEN BASICALLY EXISTS BECAUSE IT IS CREDITED TO MY EQUITY.

It makes me seethe just thinking about it.

[NGM]

RoM now you have established its a totally unfair and corrupt announcement as the real candidates have been sidelined and its not inclusive of Garbaharey or rest of Jubaland.

Nomand now we have established there is a need to play dirty and MX are not playing dirty.

can we actually discuss the shopping list, first point to make, its actually bad for Madoobe, first of all he did not announce a full list, this shows you he is bargaining, he is bargaining from a position of weakness, which can harm his ranks and decimate his political leverage, the other 4 senators will be N&N which is why he had to pick his immediate cousin for Ogaden and a random MJ woman for Deni along with his two loyal dogs.

Cabdullahi Sh Ismaacil Fartaag Sheegato MX
Ilyaas Badal Gaboose Ahmed Madoobes cousin
Iftiin Xasan Baasto giirgiir dog
Xaliimo Jaamac Maxamed unprecedented random mj woman

this shows me he does not care about keeping Ras Kambooni together, they are going to splinter, and he will rely heavily on Kenya and the mercy of cut throat inqilaab from within his clan now, his security will fall apart, its very bad politics, reminds me of when Sayidka his own turned against him

[nine]

reminds me of when Sayidka his own turned against him

The Sayid is the undisputed greatest modern Somali leader. His fall was the greatest modern Somali catastrophy. Don't mention him in the same sentence Adoons like Blackie.