What would hawiye do without Xamar?

[Isseayaanle]

Hello everyone,
What would hawiye do without xamar as political and military. Why do they only use xamar unkaleh card and would Hassan sh and abdishakur really be Bolden with the capital? I like most Somalis are tired of the xamar unkaleh crew and want to move the capital to more inclusive cities. I know for a fact hawiye Moryaan politicians can't defeat the government or regular people. Finally I'm suprised at habar Gidir mentality. They always do the fighting but never get the benefit. Habar Gidir really lives in the dark ages.

[TarTar]

that ain't how u try 2 move the capital of the ex italian colony.



learn from governa Deni. get Hawiye opposition 2 wage war on Farmajo, Roble, n Gudlawe. voila u got ur pretext 2 move tha capital



still gonna fail though. rememba Hamar was tha capital even when AY was trying 2 run the city from inside Ethiopian tanks.



just relax. let ur federal government operate smoothly. say no 2 tribalism

[Isseayaanle]

But I don't want Daarod and hawiye monopoly on president and pm. Also it seems that hawiye have no ideology and follow putland orders. Imagine if hawiye tricked putland and Deni to burn Garowe. They can't think for them selves politically. Finally Raxanwayne, jareerweyn and other irrir clans outnumber Daarod and hawiye combined. I always used to disbelief hawiye stereotypes before Farmaajo came to power.

[Isseayaanle]

Finally do you really believe Deni wants the capital for Garowe?

[TarTar]

But I don't want Daarod and hawiye monopoly on president and pm. Also it seems that hawiye have no ideology and follow putland orders. Imagine if hawiye tricked putland and Deni to burn Garowe. They can't think for them selves politically. Finally Raxanwayne, jareerweyn and other irrir clans outnumber Daarod and hawiye combined. I always used to disbelief hawiye stereotypes before Farmaajo came to power.

u heard 2 much tribal propaganda. the ex italian colony's trouble ain't darod or hawiye or any tribe. their true ailment r terrorists.

but they keep taking tha wrong medicine. amisom n puntland's stealth secessionism r poisoning their body politic.


the prescription. the ex italian colony's federal government takes over national security matters in all 5 federal member states. at this point 1 of the 5 is under stealth secessionists. so at least govern those 4 states. widout amisom babysitting. n don't let tha cancer of stealth secessionism metastasize to the non secessionist states

[Kees70]

Hello everyone,
What would hawiye do without xamar as political and military. Why do they only use xamar unkaleh card and would Hassan sh and abdishakur really be Bolden with the capital? I like most Somalis are tired of the xamar unkaleh crew and want to move the capital to more inclusive cities. I know for a fact hawiye Moryaan politicians can't defeat the government or regular people. Finally I'm suprised at habar Gidir mentality. They always do the fighting but never get the benefit. Habar Gidir really lives in the dark ages.

Niyahow you seem obsessed with Hawiyes particularly HG for someone who claims to be an Dir, you do realize that HGs are everwhere and Mogadishu isnt all we have.

HG has shown time and time again that we can be everywhere in Somalia so long our interests are there, no areas in Somaliweyne is safe from HGs presences.

[Isseayaanle]

Kess,
I have figured out habar Gidir ain't smart and have Moryaan mentality. I mean before Farmaajo y'all never had a pm or president other than roble and qaasim and y'all do all the fighting for other clans such as hawiye and putland. Finally without the capital y'all can't do shit you and I both know that. I'm convinced hawiye only power is the capital like how Awdal is gudabursi power and can't be challenged there. I've learned alot about Somali clans specifically hawiye and habar Gidir this past years.

1: Hawiye has deep fear of Daarod particularly Mareexan
2: Hawiye uses the capital as leverage (no ideology) or governance.
3: abgaal and majertain use habar Gidir to do all the fighting and habar Gidir gets no benefit.
4: They can easily be beaten but will cry "tolkey" in xamar to call for shacab backpack.
5: putland elites believe hawiye will always be moryans and thus can be used and discarded.
I mean why couldn't they take out Farmaajo or build a coalition without aligning with madobe and Deni knowing their history???
I have come to know hawiye only has power and strength in xamar and outside of that there equal to every one else. Habar Gidir really needs to stop the moryan mentality and learn from abgaal.

[Isseayaanle]

In 1991 Isaaq helped defeat Daarod and they and hawiye were supposed to build a government. Issaq would've done that but majertain tricked hawiye and they told Issaq this isn't your turf. Can't hawiye have ideology and stop keeping the capital hostage? Can't hawiye learn to be civil and not engage in moryaabism. I now will never marry a hawiye or my children as I don't want the Moryan and lawlessness Gene's to pass down. Imagine if y'all built a government without Daarod and with issaq I would've been a nice COUNTRY like somaliland. That's why I support Somaliland when they became a country. Also habar Gidir is Moryan on next level. Somaliland please send your army to help the south and defeat puntland and hawiye moryaanism. Somaliland is the only peaceful strong country to beat putland and hawiye. Habar Gidir is a Moryan!!!!

[TarTar]

it look like u hate hawiya n magerten. can i ask y? i mean tha way i c it is both tribes should b working togetha along with marehan n rahanweyn.

tha problem is terrorists n stealth secessionism. dats it