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Winners and Loosers of HSM presidency

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Winners and Loosers of HSM presidency

Postby MrSinister » Mon May 16, 2022 10:59 am

Winners

The biggest winners are the HAG movement and Kenya. Also JL who were the most vulnerable to a second farmajo govenment. If HSM becomes another farmajo and tries to consolidate power, he will loose. His first and only priory should be security and getting rid of al shabab.

Loosers

KG, MX and Qatar

To be determined

PL. if HSM selects a PM who’s anti PL, then PL would have lost. I think he will select a PM aligned with Deni and his supporters which includes heavyweights like Farole. The good news is PL selected MP’s loyal to the state.

UAE. They supported Deni, but they are probably happy farmajo lost.

Somaliland. I’m curious to see how he handles the Somaliland issues. Recognition and independence is out of the question, but more autonomy for all regions could be good.

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Re: Winners and Loosers of HSM presidency

Postby Kees70 » Mon May 16, 2022 11:14 am

Winners

The biggest winners are the HAG movement and Kenya. Also JL who were the most vulnerable to a second farmajo govenment. If HSM becomes another farmajo and tries to consolidate power, he will loose. His first and only priory should be security and getting rid of al shabab.

Loosers

KG, MX and Qatar

To be determined

PL. if HSM selects a PM who’s anti PL, then PL would have lost. I think he will select a PM aligned with Deni and his supporters which includes heavyweights like Farole. The good news is PL selected MP’s loyal to the state.

UAE. They supported Deni, but they are probably happy farmajo lost.

Somaliland. I’m curious to see how he handles the Somaliland issues. Recognition and independence is out of the question, but more autonomy for all regions could be good.
Naagyahow hurtada kagac, Puntland will never be the winner in whatever government is born in Mogadishu, whether it was another Farmaajo, or another Mx or any other HAG Government.

All those type of aforementioned governments will eventually clash with PL (per History), and when they do clash they will simply exploit the standing issues between HGs and MJs surrounding North Mudug, and another war will kick off which HG will happily oblige as we have an unfinished business with PL.

In short, so long our feud in North Mudug stands and no peace deal is agreed, Puntland will never feel safe from Central SFG's antagonism.


As for Jubaland they will remain safe until Hawiyes fixes his backyard Politically and Militarily, and when Kenya is kicked out, as for KG state it was always an Hawiye State, the eelays were tricked by farmaajo to think otherwise, but today they will go back to being Hawiye puppets.
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Re: Winners and Loosers of HSM presidency

Postby Kees70 » Mon May 16, 2022 11:22 am

Case in Point HG/GM is here now claiming Godod North Mudug, so how far will Galmudug continue to penetrate North Mudug under PL's nose until an clash happens that turns into war???

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Re: Winners and Loosers of HSM presidency

Postby MrSinister » Mon May 16, 2022 11:26 am

I’m not here to discuss with a delusional moryan. North mudug kulaha when his paper state can’t even secure it’s so called capital. The rest of the paper state is controlled by al shabab.

We shall see what direction HSM intends to go, if he wants to be a HAG president, he will loose just like last time.

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Re: Winners and Loosers of HSM presidency

Postby Kees70 » Mon May 16, 2022 11:30 am

Kulaha ''he will lose'' :lol:

WTF can an naag dhabayaco do other than cry and calacaal like an bitches in Garowe, HGs will stand in guard to karbaash you naag the moment you act up.

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Re: Winners and Loosers of HSM presidency

Postby sahal80 » Mon May 16, 2022 11:53 am

The only winners is HAG and Irir Samaale :russ:

Hassan Sheikh is more smarter than Farmaajo. he will split PunJub like he did 2013 markuu Madoobe ka soo reebay Faroole

im Hearing Farah Abdulqadir is against MX and MJ pm and he is pro OG like Xalane but others are advising someone from the marginalized Daaroods

Hassan Sh talked to Adan Madoobe and ordered Guudlaawe inuu dib ugu noqdo kursi Farah abdulqadir wuuna qaatey amerkiisa waa la dooranayaa.


"Horta Farmaajo waa baxay waa laysku raacsan yahay, Mucaaradkii Puntland haddii ladhihi jiray Farmaajey kudaaban yihiin hadda maxaa la oranayaa?"

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Re: Winners and Loosers of HSM presidency

Postby gobdoon » Mon May 16, 2022 12:10 pm

Puntland adeer wa dhul xor ah adeer oo gees ka gees si nabadgelyo ah babuur la iskaga raaco, marka adi maxa haysa Muqdisho, Jowhar, Beledweyn , Baydhabo iwm diyarad ba layskaga raca oo tariikh Somali la arkin fix that then We see hada hadal kuuma banana

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Re: Winners and Loosers of HSM presidency

Postby Murax » Mon May 16, 2022 1:17 pm

XSM is disastrous for the people of Gedo the frontline target of Kenyan bombing. He will assist in trying to install a Kenyan puppet regime there at Kenya’s behest. That said Deni would have been even worse for them. With XSM it’s not personal it’s love of power, as he was Anti Kenya involvement initially. With Deni it would have been personal.

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Re: Winners and Loosers of HSM presidency

Postby MrSinister » Mon May 16, 2022 1:41 pm

The only winners is HAG and Irir Samaale :russ:

Hassan Sheikh is more smarter than Farmaajo. he will split PunJub like he did 2013 markuu Madoobe ka soo reebay Faroole

im Hearing Farah Abdulqadir is against MX and MJ pm and he is pro OG like Xalane but others are advising someone from the marginalized Daaroods

Hassan Sh talked to Adan Madoobe and ordered Guudlaawe inuu dib ugu noqdo kursi Farah abdulqadir wuuna qaatey amerkiisa waa la dooranayaa.


"Horta Farmaajo waa baxay waa laysku raacsan yahay, Mucaaradkii Puntland haddii ladhihi jiray Farmaajey kudaaban yihiin hadda maxaa la oranayaa?"
Farmajo tried the same isku dir tactics, he even tried to meddle in PL elections but he failed.

Let’s see who HSM appoints as PM. Let’s see If he wants to be another amisom protected Mogadishu president besieged by Shabab or wants to move the country forward.

He will be given the benefit of the doubt, but if he tries his previous clanist bullshit, he will fail. My suspicion is he has learned his lesson, but time will tell. If he surrounds himself with corrupt moryans as advisors, then we’ll be back to square one.

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Re: Winners and Loosers of HSM presidency

Postby sahal80 » Mon May 16, 2022 1:59 pm

The only winners is HAG and Irir Samaale :russ:

Hassan Sheikh is more smarter than Farmaajo. he will split PunJub like he did 2013 markuu Madoobe ka soo reebay Faroole

im Hearing Farah Abdulqadir is against MX and MJ pm and he is pro OG like Xalane but others are advising someone from the marginalized Daaroods

Hassan Sh talked to Adan Madoobe and ordered Guudlaawe inuu dib ugu noqdo kursi Farah abdulqadir wuuna qaatey amerkiisa waa la dooranayaa.


"Horta Farmaajo waa baxay waa laysku raacsan yahay, Mucaaradkii Puntland haddii ladhihi jiray Farmaajey kudaaban yihiin hadda maxaa la oranayaa?"
Farmajo tried the same isku dir tactics, he even tried to meddle in PL elections but he failed.

Let’s see who HSM appoints as PM. Let’s see If he wants to be another amisom protected Mogadishu president besieged by Shabab or wants to move the country forward.

He will be given the benefit of the doubt, but if he tries his previous clanist bullshit, he will fail. My suspicion is he has learned his lesson, but time will tell. If he surrounds himself with corrupt moryans as advisors, then we’ll be back to square one.
Farmaajo did not use OG against Mj he fought both of them. Markii JL la aasaasey watii lagu aasaasey shirkii hello Kismaayo, hello gaarisa, hello jigjiga hello garowe.

Hassan Sh wuxuu diidanaa "another southern PL" oo ka hor inaamkartey wax walbe ee dawlada federalka sameyso sida heshiisyada kheyraadka iyo dastuurka ee madiidaneen Daarood-led JL sida la sheego marka waa ka horyimid JL modeled after PL. waatii madoobe loo aqoonsadey Governor appointed by the SFG. Farah Abdulqadir oo itoobiyan ah baa filekii JL nairobi ka soo wareejiyay oo keenay addisababa waatii itoobiya u diidey Faroole inuu heshiiskii JL soo aado. madoobe was pro Ethiopia and so was Fartaag so with Hassan sheikh they created "Ethiopian camp" that why Fartaag still in his xisbi. Fartaag waxaa assassination ku sameeyey maamulkii Abdullahi Yuusuf in Kismaayo qarax loo dhigay addis baa loo qaadey, madoobe oo itoobiya ku duqeysey dagaalkii maxaakimta baa addis loo qaadey isbitaalka ayaa labadooda la isugu xiray. Fartaag itoobiyaankii qabsadey Kismaayo uu la socdey marka niman Abdullahi yuusuf u magacaabey kismaayo baa qaarijirin rabay.

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Hassan Sheekh iyo madoobe waa is fahmeen ilaa uu ka cafiyay shuruudihii heshiiskii addiss oo xuquuda beelihii uu isticmaali jiray lagu gatey

waxay keentey in JL banaanka ka istaagto PL sida markey SFG qaadacdo iyo waliba shirarkii NCC sida 4.5 in doorashada lagu saleeyo shirkii kismaayo.


Cowlyahan Pm ayaa la saadaalinayaa hadey dhacdo Hassan Sh will separate JL from PL again!

dawladaan waa muhiim waxay soo saari shidaalka iyo dhaqaalaha waa in ay heesato inta badan taageerada FMSka. waa meesha uu qaldey Farmaajo meeshii uu la saaxiibi lahaa uu la dagaalamay kurti.

Farmaajo waxay aheed inuu dhaho warniyahow Madoobow federalka la shaqee reer Gedano xuqooqdooda sii anagana Xamar baan idiin joognaa kaama hor imaanaayo is dooro mar kale ana ha iga hor imaan ninmanaan kursiga igu heesta ka soo hara laakin wuxuu jiri JL aan dumin marja hore oo ah gacanta bidix ee PL kadibna PL ayaan gacanta mid ee u hartey ka jari laakiin asagii ay lug iyo gacan isdhaaf ah u jareen :pac:
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Re: Winners and Loosers of HSM presidency

Postby barbarossa » Mon May 16, 2022 2:01 pm

Congratulations to beesha hawiye for reclaiming the Skinny diadem.

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Re: Winners and Loosers of HSM presidency

Postby Tallman77 » Mon May 16, 2022 3:00 pm

We OGADEN / Absame and Jubaland, nothing makes us happier than getting rid of a dictator criminal tuug

we worked very hard making sure we build allies to kick him out and nothing makes me happier seeing him lose Alhamdulillah's

the boon has been noting but trouble for us


for Rooble thank you, for other kab iyo lax supporters standing with us and also for HG and other hawiye like abgaal thank you all

Rooble deserves in my opinion to become next somalia president insha Allah in 2026 for it was him working with Jubaland that saved the country

MX should be taught a lesson insha Allah and go back to their hunter gatherer ways , they have bene noting but ungrateful brats with power

this was for qalbidagax, for the mothers that died in child birth because we could not fly medicine from xamar due to the air blockade

for all the sick people and children that died due to lack of blood/medicine we could not fly in, Allah will punish the mini dictator hunter gatherer

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Re: Winners and Loosers of HSM presidency

Postby Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE » Mon May 16, 2022 3:16 pm

We OGADEN / Absame and Jubaland, nothing makes us happier than getting rid of a dictator criminal tuug

we worked very hard making sure we build allies to kick him out and nothing makes me happier seeing him lose Alhamdulillah's

the boon has been noting but trouble for us


for Rooble thank you, for other kab iyo lax supporters standing with us and also for HG and other hawiye like abgaal thank you all

Rooble deserves in my opinion to become next somalia president insha Allah in 2026 for it was him working with Jubaland that saved the country

MX should be taught a lesson insha Allah and go back to their hunter gatherer ways , they have bene noting but ungrateful brats with power

this was for qalbidagax, for the mothers that died in child birth because we could not fly medicine from xamar due to the air blockade

for all the sick people and children that died due to lack of blood/medicine we could not fly in, Allah will punish the mini dictator hunter gatherer
Calling Faramaajo dictator when Qalbi madoobe is illegally squatting in kismaayo for 10 years lol..He will be removed and thrown in Jail like the used up Ina Iley. Inshallah ogaagden Will be deported back to Ethiopia and jl will be in hands of its rightful owners…You can continue kissing hawiye ass tho lol . Bal ducaysta hawiye saved you from the big bad marehan lmao
Marehans were so busy with nabad iyo noolal….but your dabaqodhi ass is gonna have a nightmares now ..no Kenyan or mooryans Will save you. May Allah punish the illegal squatter in kismaayo…balaayada madowka badan..jini iyo balaayo madow.

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Re: Winners and Loosers of HSM presidency

Postby Rebelxx222 » Mon May 16, 2022 4:03 pm

The most convenient option is for HSM to select an OG PM. If he selects a minority Darood he will neither have the support nor blessing of the 2 states Puntland & Jubaland further improving their alliances. Farmaajo’s biggest mistake was trying to rely on Dhulbahante & Marehan support who share no border together in Somalia. The losers in my opinion are the CBB orphans and the Ethiopian mercenaries occupying Gedo region. HSM should learn from the past mistake. I know he’s a smart man but let’s give him time & trust. I hope to see Rooble run for the presidency in 2026, he’s been the best prime minister we’ve had so far. Hsm should learn from rooble & he will have a peaceful & outstanding presidency.

Another Main concern is Alshabab. Alshabab should be the main enemy & not other clans. Let’s unite the army to liberate regions & districts under the terrorist group. Somalia should not become the next Afghanistan & Hsm should avoid becoming the next Ashraf Ghani. Farmaajo brought Somalia close to the point of state collapse, let’s hope the nightmare of the past is officially over.

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Re: Winners and Loosers of HSM presidency

Postby original dervish » Mon May 16, 2022 5:48 pm

A leopard doesn't change its spots.
HSM will do what's in the interest of HSM.
To expect anything different is political naivety.


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