If this trajectory continues to end of year, on Midnight 1/1 regions/districts/towns should declare rebellion vs HSM gov

[Gubbet]

Enough is enough. At this point, the present authorities present the preclusion of redeemability.

It is not even the politics, it is the greed.

It is not the policies, it is the avarice.

It is not the philosophy, there is none.

Rapacious, unquenchable, insatiable----grubbiness.

The Somal will watch you with shock---for 1 hour
To strike against you with disgust---in 1 second

A storm gathers---because backlash is brewing.

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

Is this the part where I call you spoiler, nabad-diid, mooryaan etc?

[Gubbet]

Is this the part where I call you spoiler, nabad-diid, mooryaan etc?

Abkoow, jokes aside, truly, to allow myself a moment of vulnerability even, my mind gives up and my heart gives in---whenever I want to understand how someone can support what I observe are perpetuations of such a fundamental moral and ethical failure.

I can disagree vehemently with, but never need to "understand" why someone can take a tribal position in Somali politics.

I can disagree vehemently with USC on everything, yet I never find it relevant to understand why people fought, died, and celebrate it even to this day. I know and I accept the basis for it under Somali politica and history.

Conversely, recall my vehement disagreement, intense and utter rebuke of my own clan during the Janan surrender deal.

That are things of such a moral and ethical distinction for me---not only can I never accept it, but I cannot understand why some would support it.

The allegation here, credibly, is of a nature of such moral degeneracy...even apathy and being unconcerned, let alone support toward its perpetuation---is an indictment on the very common recognition of believing one is fundamentally a good human being deserving of a need to "understand."

I never want to understand, and neither do I find that prospect worth pursuing, if the matter is of such a moral and ethical failure as this.

[Gubbet]

Recall here, the harshness of my tone towards my own dear brother and friend, Saddam.

What I felt then concerning that Janan deal is what I feel towards it now.

My tone was not predicated on my feelings toward Saddam, which are the opposite of what was representated by that tone, but was based on the level of my moral and ethical objection of that deal.

In the end, that Janan deal "directly" birthed the development that became the army mutiny based on tribal predilection. In fact, Badbaado Qaran was directly defended by some of its leaders and supporters as having been made pertinent by the perception created by the Janan deal that "some clans" can cut corners on the principal of equality before the law.

Notice that perception was something I vehemently forwarned would result from the ethical and moral failure of the Janan deal.

Forget even that he has blood on his hands or did something more heinous like bring KDF sponsored bullets to kill kids---just on the basis of cadaalad aka "justice"---if Janan is not put in handcuffs and immediately treated exactly the same as Abu Mansuur or even Sh Shakir who was a saint in comparison and whose only crime was "amar diid" ---

---IF MOHAMED CABDULLAHI FARMAAJO TREATS JANAN 0.1% DIFFERENTLY, HE CAN GO TO HELL HIMSELF.
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No, Saddam. You are displaying immaturity right now. This is not "enlightenment."

It is not about you. It is not about me.

This is literally an "existential" issue to the entire nature of what is being worked on---governance, justice, security, development, order---for us and for our neighbors and for our nation.

I don't care what little sub-clannish assumptions that are pegged to this---if the President of Somalia "Farmaajo" treats Janan, who is his clansman, "differently" to Abu Mansur and Sh Shakir---just on that basis, Farmaajo deserves to resign effective THE SECOND THE UNEQUAL TREATMENT is officiated by Government

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I'm not saying anything of this is you, but if you read again what you wrote and then critique it in comparison to the relevance it has to my dangerous warning, existential to Somalia's entire governing project and capable of destroying Farmaajo's entire legacy, then everything I wrote was called as I see it.

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 8#p4995723

If you were Marehan, you would be attacking me in that episode, Abkoow, because, truthfully, you have shown no expression of a moral or ethical dissent or really any dissent at all with any single issue, act, or point of contention with any of authorities holding responsibility over society from your clan.

I know you have the capacity to do so, because I am a long witness of your personal character and disposition on this board.

I don't know why you cannot exercise that capacity walaal.

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

Gubbet clearly i was joking. Secondly sxb I will never hold against your views. But on this certain issue lets not be quick with an opinion. I am sure HSM/GOV has a legit reason for dismantling the guddi. Lets await and see.

[Kees70]

Gubbet,

Just one question, ''you and what army'' will declare this so called ''rebellion''?



(and also if you are so kind to answer, im adding an side bonus question to satisfy our curiosity, will this ''rebellion'' which is obviously being led by the defeated marexans be held in gaajo gedo?)

Cheers for the entertainment sxb, you really made my day today.

[Isseayaanle]

Kess70,
Exactly! What can they do other than whine. HUTUS unlike the rest of Somalia are wining on three fronts:
1: Majority on the capital: No one can challenge them there.
2: United on corruption
3: Westerners, Alshaydaan and other NGOS taken care of by signing whatever they request: Extension of Amisom, Tribalize army, Extend European army in sea, etc.

This is what bothers me when people talk about Somalia I make critical thinking on it like do you understand who controls this place: HUTUS! END OF STORY

[original dervish]

I'm of the view if you provide someone with enough rope they will eventually hang themselves.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

I'm of the view if you provide someone with enough rope they will eventually hang themselves.

Law 26: Keep your hands clean

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

[MrSinister]

HSM’s greed and incompetence is unmatched even by Somali standards. He’s done so much damage to the country in less than a year, imagine after his term ends.

The best thing is to limit the damage he can do. PL doesn’t work with this government and other regions should do the same.

[Nomand]

HSM’s greed and incompetence is unmatched even by Somali standards. He’s done so much damage to the country in less than a year, imagine after his term ends.

The best thing is to limit the damage he can do. PL doesn’t work with this government and other regions should do the same.

Culusow really doesn't care and I don't think anyone can do anything. He has a xalane mafia on his side. He has amisom on his side by making sure they never leave.

He is paying off every tuug in xamar like mahad salaad. The speaker of pairlement is as corrupt as culusow and has basically shutdown the parliament. The PM is weak and dumb and ministers have no power.

Culusow has the next 4 years on lockdown. But will leave behind a somalia that might never recover from his corruption.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

HSM’s greed and incompetence is unmatched even by Somali standards. He’s done so much damage to the country in less than a year, imagine after his term ends.

The best thing is to limit the damage he can do. PL doesn’t work with this government and other regions should do the same.

Culusow really doesn't care and I don't think anyone can do anything. He has a xalane mafia on his side. He has amisom on his side by making sure they never leave.

He is paying off every tuug in xamar like mahad salaad. The speaker of pairlement is as corrupt as culusow and has basically shutdown the parliament. The PM is weak and dumb and ministers have no power.

Culusow has the next 4 years on lockdown. But will leave behind a somalia that might never recover from his corruption.

“Capital, he said, had no conscience and no fatherland.” - John Buchan, The Thirty-Nine Steps

[MrSinister]

HSM’s greed and incompetence is unmatched even by Somali standards. He’s done so much damage to the country in less than a year, imagine after his term ends.

The best thing is to limit the damage he can do. PL doesn’t work with this government and other regions should do the same.

Culusow really doesn't care and I don't think anyone can do anything. He has a xalane mafia on his side. He has amisom on his side by making sure they never leave.

He is paying off every tuug in xamar like mahad salaad. The speaker of pairlement is as corrupt as culusow and has basically shutdown the parliament. The PM is weak and dumb and ministers have no power.

Culusow has the next 4 years on lockdown. But will leave behind a somalia that might never recover from his corruption.

He’s now turned his attention to shutting down the media using shabab as an excuse, but really it’s so he can get away with his corruption. Even the corrupt editors at garowe online are now under hsm payroll. Deni needs to ban garoweonline from PL

I can’t believe so many people supported this corrupt dameer.