For the first time, Marehan have started discussing "Somalia exit" and joining Ethiopia w/ Jubbaland & Western Galmudug

[theyuusuf143]

Change the goalpost whenever cornered. You're claiming Mustafe now that's how desperate you're. Fall in line iidoorow.

There is no such thing as idoor

Beesha Sacad muse has now good relations with cagdheer, yusuf is hj and they breed with your dhulo cousins who are allied with your mareexan enemies. The days of big qabiil groupings are over, it’s Everyman and his interest out there. Next time someone says the word isaaaq just laugh at them

We SM expect beesha cagdheer to cooperate specially in trade, otherwise we will install a fella like abdisamad (creator of jail ogaden). You can abuse HJ/hy like you abuse your boon cousins in ‘jubbaland’ state of Kenya.

Waxad isku khaldaysa dadka iyo system Ka. Dadka isaaq iyo kuwa cagdheer belaayo kama dhexayso. Laakiin system Ka Ethiopia Ka jira ayaa u dhisan qaab keeni kara in ay isku dhacaan ogaadeen iyo Somalida kale oo dhan not just isaaq. Tusaale alaab ganacsi baad is tidhi oromia gee, Askari cagdheer baa dabeeto jidka kuu fadhiistay sifo sharci darro ah. Laba wadaa kuu furan marka sacad muusaw inaad baad siiso iyo inaad gebigiisaba meesha Ka saartid , ciidan ka cagdheer tu xaqba uma laha inuu xuduuda joogo shaqadaas federal ka leh , police Ku should be local people.

Sidan wadkayga u hubo baan u hubaa inay isaaq iyo cagdheer isku dhacayan. Sacad muuse sigaar lagu bakhtiiyey buu dagaal kassna Ka bilaabmaya. Kolayba anagu hadaanu HJ nahay cidii sigaar kugu bakhtiisa waanu dilayna. Markaa buumahaga iska sii xidho dagaal waa ina daan wayne. Inaynu cagdheer dirirno danteena baaba Ku jirta. Isaaq sida keliya ee laysugu hayn karaa waa in Cid lagu jiheeyo. Adeer frontan majeerteen Ku boring bay noqotee taa cagdheer ta inagu aadiya.

[mahoka]

Change the goalpost whenever cornered. You're claiming Mustafe now that's how desperate you're. Fall in line iidoorow.

There is no such thing as idoor

Beesha Sacad muse has now good relations with cagdheer, yusuf is hj and they breed with your dhulo cousins who are allied with your mareexan enemies. The days of big qabiil groupings are over, it’s Everyman and his interest out there. Next time someone says the word isaaaq just laugh at them

We SM expect beesha cagdheer to cooperate specially in trade, otherwise we will install a fella like abdisamad (creator of jail ogaden). You can abuse HJ/hy like you abuse your boon cousins in ‘jubbaland’ state of Kenya.

Waxad isku khaldaysa dadka iyo system Ka. Dadka isaaq iyo kuwa cagdheer belaayo kama dhexayso. Laakiin system Ka Ethiopia Ka jira ayaa u dhisan qaab keeni kara in ay isku dhacaan ogaadeen iyo Somalida kale oo dhan not just isaaq. Tusaale alaab ganacsi baad is tidhi oromia gee, Askari cagdheer baa dabeeto jidka kuu fadhiistay sifo sharci darro ah. Laba wadaa kuu furan marka sacad muusaw inaad baad siiso iyo inaad gebigiisaba meesha Ka saartid , ciidan ka cagdheer tu xaqba uma laha inuu xuduuda joogo shaqadaas federal ka leh , police Ku should be local people.

Sidan wadkayga u hubo baan u hubaa inay isaaq iyo cagdheer isku dhacayan. Sacad muuse sigaar lagu bakhtiiyey buu dagaal kassna Ka bilaabmaya. Kolayba anagu hadaanu HJ nahay cidii sigaar kugu bakhtiisa waanu dilayna. Markaa buumahaga iska sii xidho dagaal waa ina daan wayne. Inaynu cagdheer dirirno danteena baaba Ku jirta. Isaaq sida keliya ee laysugu hayn karaa waa in Cid lagu jiheeyo. Adeer frontan majeerteen Ku boring bay noqotee taa cagdheer ta inagu aadiya.

Sxb you can go fight the cagdheer if you want, just don’t do it while wearing the isaaq nigis, go do your thing. Caqli ma galayso waan jecelaaday harti iyo mareexan waan necbaaday cagdheer.

[MrSinister]

Mahoka

Isaaq are too small in populaation to divide themselves by subclans. The whole Somaliland thing is built on isaaq grievance and anti faqash propoganda, once you guys divide each other by subclans, the whole Somaliland project is finished

[skywalker25]

Change the goalpost whenever cornered. You're claiming Mustafe now that's how desperate you're. Fall in line iidoorow.

There is no such thing as idoor

Beesha Sacad muse has now good relations with cagdheer, yusuf is hj and they breed with your dhulo cousins who are allied with your mareexan enemies. The days of big qabiil groupings are over, it’s Everyman and his interest out there. Next time someone says the word isaaaq just laugh at them

We SM expect beesha cagdheer to cooperate specially in trade, otherwise we will install a fella like abdisamad (creator of jail ogaden). You can abuse HJ/hy like you abuse your boon cousins in ‘jubbaland’ state of Kenya.

My nigga Mahoka......

Trade is built with a big stick behind you for when the day it comes to settle accounts. If you're business partner doesn't pay what he owes you, what you gonna say? ''But huuno, you owe me that money''

[mahoka]

Mahoka

Isaaq are too small in populaation to divide themselves by subclans. The whole Somaliland thing is built on isaaq grievance and anti faqash propoganda, once you guys divide each other by subclans, the whole Somaliland project is finished

Isaaq is 4/5 times the size of darod- if you pick up all darod and placed them into one place they wouldn’t fill half of burco. Bosaso is the largest darod only city and it has the same population as gabilay, a city settled by sub sub clan of sacad muse.


Sxb first of all isaaq clans are actually related unlike your darod clans, there is a reason ciidagale and hy have very similar a torso but supposed harti brothers such as all have different levels of abtrisi and different number of generations when you count up, this is impossible if you claim to be sibling clans. You darods are small unrelated tribes that are completely unrelated and share no blood, only thing that United you is bigger groups such as isaaq and hawiye surrounding you on the sides, this is why your supposedly closest brothers the dhulbahante joined the mareexan regime in trying to wipe you out in the 80s, and why since 1991 mj has been trying to take dhulo land.

Isaaq is not a tribe but related clans, they can fight each other but will never do to each other anything that seriously harms any brother.

Somaliland is built on the interest of all northern Somalis, it’s why your dhulo brothers joined, they say they wouldn’t get anything in garowe let alone Mogadishu. It’s the same reason samaroon has never spoke out against SL. SL is also a densly populated region which means people have to live together, you can’t compare it to the least populated region in the horn which is puntland, there is a reason garowe/bosaso have small populations - it’s the same reason you don’t see many trees in bari and nugaal lol.

[mahoka]

Change the goalpost whenever cornered. You're claiming Mustafe now that's how desperate you're.Fall in line iidoorow.

There is no such thing as idoor

Beesha Sacad muse has now good relations with cagdheer, yusuf is hj and they breed with your dhulo cousins who are allied with your mareexan enemies. The days of big qabiil groupings are over, it’s Everyman and his interest out there. Next time someone says the word isaaaq just laugh at them

We SM expect beesha cagdheer to cooperate specially in trade, otherwise we will install a fella like abdisamad (creator of jail ogaden). You can abuse HJ/hy like you abuse your boon cousins in ‘jubbaland’ state of Kenya.

My nigga Mahoka......

Trade is built with a big stick behind you for when the day it comes to settle accounts. If you're business partner doesn't pay what he owes you, what you gonna say? ''But huuno, you owe me that money''

Cagdheer know us sxb, they know if they fart on us we will shit on them, your evidence is the old thread on this from the 2000s

What I won’t accept is your fellas fellas saying harti and boon nation is gob but cagdheer is gun either they are all gun or gob,after all look at how I domesticated samaroon and ciise, I can bashaal in cagdheer, ciise and samaroon land and sleep soundly at night without a worry, you guys still haven’t domesticated tiny faqiir dhulo kkkkkkk

[theyuusuf143]

Cagdheer tu maxay business Ka garanayan concept ba kama haystan trade kuu sheegayo. Ciday trade Ku inaga dhexeeyan waa oromo. Isna dhexdeenu qori la fadhiya Mr cagdheer. Busaarad yar haday dhacdo cida 1aad ee uu Ku qadhqadhaya waa mahoka oo uunsi safar u wada. Maalintay sacad muuse jigjiga kasoo guureen bay front taasi inagu banaanatay. Nebi ciisaan xitaa baajinayn dagaal ka meeshaa kasoo socda mahokay. We gonna pull the trigger and you gonna pay the cost.

Dhulbahante majeerteen iyo dadkan nagu beegan anagu waa dad civilized ah oo dhaqan soomaliyeed oo suuban leh , ugama baqayo inay shacabkayaga wax yeelan. Laakiin cagdheer tu xitaa ayey daa oo indha la,a nabad gelin maayan. Nin ayeydii soo dilay , oo indrtii ama walaashii bac siilka kaga soo dhalaaliyey ma kuwaagu u daahaya. Out of all Somali cagdheer tu waa the worst enemies yagoo markii horeba doqonimada u dhashay bay gacan shisheeyana u raacday. Marka waa robot , midh damiira Laguma oga. Hadaanad dilin isaga Ku dilaya walaahi without any hesitation.

[Khalid Ali]

I don’t usually much agree with mahoke but he is right on. This one. All darood are filth and there are no good darood not even our loyal subjects all jabartis are nijaas. Wala boontooda wala xaartidooda wala doqontooda ogaden. All piece of shit

[theyuusuf143]

I don’t usually much agree with mahoke but he is right on. This one. All darood are filth and there are no good darood not even our loyal subjects all jabartis are nijaas. Wala boontooda wala xaartidooda wala doqontooda ogaden. All piece of shit

Hypothetically let's say we have 3 different jeberti rivals

1. First one Mareexaan , we have no people to people interection, but if one of them is in villa Somalia , they may cut some of our none existing diplomatic ties with foreign countries. Their people are not threat to us. Their militias can not reach our sphere. Not now and not in the foreseeable future. We are done with marexaan

2. Second one Majeerteen, we have no history of qabiil based conflicts between us, our problem with them is solely politics and border dispute. They are not threat to the isaaq population even if we get defeated and they drive us all the way to caynabo. Majeerteen won't harm our civilians .

3. Now let's check the cagdheer. I can say we have no problem with the cagdheer people either. But their militias are threat to our civilians in Ethiopia. Not just our civilians only but all Somalis. They are also to threat to our business , they can interrupt all our trade follow to Ethiopia , and that costs our life.

Which one of these problems would you deal first ? I guess It's obvious ninka waxa muuqda aan garan waxa soo socdana ma garto. Dagaal Ka ama dib u dhigo ama hore usoo dhigoo waa hawl ina sugaysa. No excuses.

[MrSinister]

Mahoka

Isaaq are too small in populaation to divide themselves by subclans. The whole Somaliland thing is built on isaaq grievance and anti faqash propoganda, once you guys divide each other by subclans, the whole Somaliland project is finished

Isaaq is 4/5 times the size of darod- if you pick up all darod and placed them into one place they wouldn’t fill half of burco. Bosaso is the largest darod only city and it has the same population as gabilay, a city settled by sub sub clan of sacad muse.


Sxb first of all isaaq clans are actually related unlike your darod clans, there is a reason ciidagale and hy have very similar a torso but supposed harti brothers such as all have different levels of abtrisi and different number of generations when you count up, this is impossible if you claim to be sibling clans. You darods are small unrelated tribes that are completely unrelated and share no blood, only thing that United you is bigger groups such as isaaq and hawiye surrounding you on the sides, this is why your supposedly closest brothers the dhulbahante joined the mareexan regime in trying to wipe you out in the 80s, and why since 1991 mj has been trying to take dhulo land.

Isaaq is not a tribe but related clans, they can fight each other but will never do to each other anything that seriously harms any brother.

Somaliland is built on the interest of all northern Somalis, it’s why your dhulo brothers joined, they say they wouldn’t get anything in garowe let alone Mogadishu. It’s the same reason samaroon has never spoke out against SL. SL is also a densly populated region which means people have to live together, you can’t compare it to the least populated region in the horn which is puntland, there is a reason garowe/bosaso have small populations - it’s the same reason you don’t see many trees in bari and nugaal lol.

How are Isaaq anymore related than darood? DNA evidence would suggest otherwise.

There is a reason why darood operate at subclan level because large populations have diverging interests and eventually each clans goes their own way because they can stand on their own. MJ, MX and OG stand on their own and each have their own spheres of influence.

Isaaq is small relative to hawiye and darood, the small dhulbahante were historically your biggest rivals let alone Darod. There is a reason why you were grouped with Dir in 4.5. Harti is probably equal to Isaaq forget the rest of darod.

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t believe population size means anything if your people and political class are useless.

Don’t let the khanis OD confuse you about dhullos, the most anti somaliland diaspora are dhulbahante. They even hired a lobbying firm to fight somaliland ictiraaf in the US. The biggest cbb outside of marexaan were and are dhulbahante. You’ve paid some of them off just like we do, but in the end, mercenaries will go to the highest bidder.

Reer awadal are no different, the first chance they get and if there is a serious government in Mogadishu, they would leave. Somaliland is held together by Isaaq grievance, it will never be its own country. The formation of Puntland has effectively killed any chance of recognition for Somaliland. Where I agree with you guys is Somalia will never go back to a unitary state. The best case scenario is a confederation type of system, otherwise, the status quo works for PL where we have autonomy to do our thing and we get to eat from the FGS.

[Khalid Ali]

That doesn’t make sense at al u operate seperatly not because of ur imaganiry numbers but because ur land is not connected. You live in Bari nu gaal and north mudug the first. Settlement of darood outside north mudug will be a village called aabudwaaq near the Ethiopian Somalia border after that u enter a big vast land of hawiye rahanweyn dir jareer and then u reach west gedo where there is the next darood settlement u go a little further u reach the afmadow village of lower Jubba that’s ur land Frankly and u have to work and be indepedent of each other because ur land is not connected and that’s the reason

Second majeerteenia didn’t stop somaliland state hood there waad a time u were the bunker lead and the leader bugland and we snatched laaacanood of u and that was the height of ur power how can u say u stopped My clan habar awal is in somaliland is larger then wasakhgali and qurjille according to the census od the British and I didn’t add the habar awal in jabuuti. Ethiopia. I think I think habar awal is twice the size of all the so called Harti combined You are very small sxb I am not saying that’s bad. Tiro with out quality is use less

By the way dhulbahante diaspora remember the civil war we they will come in terms with Somaliland the dhulbahante in the land don’t give. A shit about walanweyn and that is a fact

[Ghiklo]

There is no such thing as idoor

Beesha Sacad muse has now good relations with cagdheer, yusuf is hj and they breed with your dhulo cousins who are allied with your mareexan enemies. The days of big qabiil groupings are over, it’s Everyman and his interest out there. Next time someone says the word isaaaq just laugh at them

We SM expect beesha cagdheer to cooperate specially in trade, otherwise we will install a fella like abdisamad (creator of jail ogaden). You can abuse HJ/hy like you abuse your boon cousins in ‘jubbaland’ state of Kenya.

My nigga Mahoka......

Trade is built with a big stick behind you for when the day it comes to settle accounts. If you're business partner doesn't pay what he owes you, what you gonna say? ''But huuno, you owe me that money''

Cagdheer know us sxb, they know if they fart on us we will shit on them, your evidence is the old thread on this from the 2000s

What I won’t accept is your fellas fellas saying harti and boon nation is gob but cagdheer is gun either they are all gun or gob,after all look at how I domesticated samaroon and ciise, I can bashaal in cagdheer, ciise and samaroon land and sleep soundly at night without a worry, you guys still haven’t domesticated tiny faqiir dhulo kkkkkkk

Why are the most xenophobic landers HA? You are paternally related to Ogadens within 2600 years. The Dhulbahante and Habar Awal are also related within 2600 years, so why the hate?

[mahoka]

That doesn’t make sense at al u operate seperatly not because of ur imaganiry numbers but because ur land is not connected. You live in Bari nu gaal and north mudug the first. Settlement of darood outside north mudug will be a village called aabudwaaq near the Ethiopian Somalia border after that u enter a big vast land of hawiye rahanweyn dir jareer and then u reach west gedo where there is the next darood settlement u go a little further u reach the afmadow village of lower Jubba that’s ur land Frankly and u have to work and be indepedent of each other because ur land is not connected and that’s the reason

Second majeerteenia didn’t stop somaliland state hood there waad a time u were the bunker lead and the leader bugland and we snatched laaacanood of u and that was the height of ur power how can u say u stopped My clan habar awal is in somaliland is larger then wasakhgali and qurjille according to the census od the British and I didn’t add the habar awal in jabuuti. Ethiopia. I think I think habar awal is twice the size of all the so called Harti combined You are very small sxb I am not saying that’s bad. Tiro with out quality is use less

By the way dhulbahante diaspora remember the civil war we they will come in terms with Somaliland the dhulbahante in the land don’t give. A shit about walanweyn and that is a fact

The brother is just trying to cope lol, darod is small unrelated tribes who came together to fend off the big boys. This is why warsangeli, dhulo and mj who are apparently close brothers have different abtirsi and different number of generations when they count up their fake family trees. It’s the reason no darod is ever mentioned in the book fusxatul xabashi written by our arab brothers. It’s the reason mx and dhulo and ogaden literally tried to wipe out mj from existence their plan was to plan mj lands with warsangeli and dhulo and mx, it’s the reason mj would rather support hawiye hsm over futomaajo lol, it’s the reason why dhulo is asking SL to stop mj from taking their land. They are unrelated by blood or culture or anything, the only thing that brings them together is desire to survive against isaaq and hawiye

[mahoka]

My nigga Mahoka......

Trade is built with a big stick behind you for when the day it comes to settle accounts. If you're business partner doesn't pay what he owes you, what you gonna say? ''But huuno, you owe me that money''

Cagdheer know us sxb, they know if they fart on us we will shit on them, your evidence is the old thread on this from the 2000s

What I won’t accept is your fellas fellas saying harti and boon nation is gob but cagdheer is gun either they are all gun or gob,after all look at how I domesticated samaroon and ciise, I can bashaal in cagdheer, ciise and samaroon land and sleep soundly at night without a worry, you guys still haven’t domesticated tiny faqiir dhulo kkkkkkk

Why are the most xenophobic landers HA? You are paternally related to Ogadens within 2600 years. The Dhulbahante and Habar Awal are also related within 2600 years, so why the hate?

Not true, HA are neither related to darods nor are they xenophobic, thousands of darods work and live in HA deegan. HA is the most welcoming of all Somalis

[mahoka]

Mahoka

Isaaq are too small in populaation to divide themselves by subclans. The whole Somaliland thing is built on isaaq grievance and anti faqash propoganda, once you guys divide each other by subclans, the whole Somaliland project is finished

Isaaq is 4/5 times the size of darod- if you pick up all darod and placed them into one place they wouldn’t fill half of burco. Bosaso is the largest darod only city and it has the same population as gabilay, a city settled by sub sub clan of sacad muse.


Sxb first of all isaaq clans are actually related unlike your darod clans, there is a reason ciidagale and hy have very similar a torso but supposed harti brothers such as all have different levels of abtrisi and different number of generations when you count up, this is impossible if you claim to be sibling clans. You darods are small unrelated tribes that are completely unrelated and share no blood, only thing that United you is bigger groups such as isaaq and hawiye surrounding you on the sides, this is why your supposedly closest brothers the dhulbahante joined the mareexan regime in trying to wipe you out in the 80s, and why since 1991 mj has been trying to take dhulo land.

Isaaq is not a tribe but related clans, they can fight each other but will never do to each other anything that seriously harms any brother.

Somaliland is built on the interest of all northern Somalis, it’s why your dhulo brothers joined, they say they wouldn’t get anything in garowe let alone Mogadishu. It’s the same reason samaroon has never spoke out against SL. SL is also a densly populated region which means people have to live together, you can’t compare it to the least populated region in the horn which is puntland, there is a reason garowe/bosaso have small populations - it’s the same reason you don’t see many trees in bari and nugaal lol.

How are Isaaq anymore related than darood? DNA evidence would suggest otherwise.

There is a reason why darood operate at subclan level because large populations have diverging interests and eventually each clans goes their own way because they can stand on their own. MJ, MX and OG stand on their own and each have their own spheres of influence.

Isaaq is small relative to hawiye and darood, the small dhulbahante were historically your biggest rivals let alone Darod. There is a reason why you were grouped with Dir in 4.5. Harti is probably equal to Isaaq forget the rest of darod.

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t believe population size means anything if your people and political class are useless.

Don’t let the khanis OD confuse you about dhullos, the most anti somaliland diaspora are dhulbahante. They even hired a lobbying firm to fight somaliland ictiraaf in the US. The biggest cbb outside of marexaan were and are dhulbahante. You’ve paid some of them off just like we do, but in the end, mercenaries will go to the highest bidder.

Reer awadal are no different, the first chance they get and if there is a serious government in Mogadishu, they would leave. Somaliland is held together by Isaaq grievance, it will never be its own country. The formation of Puntland has effectively killed any chance of recognition for Somaliland. Where I agree with you guys is Somalia will never go back to a unitary state. The best case scenario is a confederation type of system, otherwise, the status quo works for PL where we have autonomy to do our thing and we get to eat from the FGS.

Sxb let’s not go back and forth, what I stated is facts and can be proven via 2 steps

1- ask any warsangeli, mj and dhulo to recite their abtirsi. Another prove Darod is not related is physical appearance - dhulo and ogaden are much lighter in skin complex and have softer hair and narrower noses compared to mj and mx, I am not being racist but just pointing out what most isaaq think

2- go on Google maps and get the size of bosaso via a map cutout, caabudwaaq, lascanood and las qoray and place the maps over a map of burco - we have played this game a million times over the years in previous fkd session lol


Somaliland’s ictiraaf hasn’t come due to SL’s political elite who are scared of the corruption gravy train ending if ictiraaf comes, puntland region is no different than galmudug or hirshabeel, in fact as of 2022 only garowe and qardho towns are firmly in the hands of puntland, bosaso wants nothing to do with garowe admin and diyaano family and their allies now control bosaso and much of bari region.


As for isaaq being part of dir, this is due to corrupt deals between cigaal Aun and qaasim - cigaal Aun essentially have hawiye control of Somalia in the Djibouti conference, a recent qudhmiye minister exposed close relationship between hargeisa and Mogadishu politicians