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Hag this hag that …he is not even Hag.
My friend you need to face the reality. HSM can’t even kick out Amisom and have Somali police and military protect and your talking about him removing FMS. One: Madobe will leave when Kenya decides NOT anyone in Somalia if they do, they’ll decide who replaces him simple as that. Two: Laftagreen is highly popular with Raxawayne and is the only FMS liked by his people and now he’s connected with Ethiopia and putland for support so the bunker government can’t do shit. Two: Only alshaydaan will be defeated by an actual government and not by tribes. This whole war is fake and is a PR for donors to give Cuslow more money. ONLY SERIOUS clan is xadwadle and I’m afraid that’s not enough progress. 3: Finally I thought extensions were xaraam under farmaajo? But HAG is ok with extension now for a president who still has 3.5 years left? Anyways something is not adding up and as Somalis say “ Beenta Runta kadambeysa”. The truth will always come out and it doesn’t support anyone. But for the love of ALLAHSWT STOP MOVING THE GOALPOST.There's some thing called developments. The government's policy was to complete their terms and now it has agreed to extend for them inline with Hassan Sheikh's extension. However, No extension for Guudlawe and QoorQoor got only 6 months. it's laftagareen and Madoobe who got two years and Deni 1 year. i don't give a fuck since im from Hirshabelle and we can save money and time for abaaraha and Al Shabaab instead of wasting them on KG and JL. the point is no more elections under Madoobe and laftagareen. Xamsa will replace Madoobe (reer hirsi deal) Madoobe moved to the UAE people think he goes there for caafimaad but he moved his family there he bought a house.
Thank you Gacanyare.Sahal is the greatest analyst on this website he has done great works and he catogarised everything perfectly.
All that he predicted came true. That failmaajo will Leave and. It getting a second term. That deni will not win. The whole thing with saadiq John all of that he predicted currently.
"The difference between De Jure and De Facto is that De jure refers to something that exists as a result of law, whereas de facto refers to something that exists as a result of fact other than law"My friend you need to face the reality. HSM can’t even kick out Amisom and have Somali police and military protect and your talking about him removing FMS. One: Madobe will leave when Kenya decides NOT anyone in Somalia if they do, they’ll decide who replaces him simple as that. Two: Laftagreen is highly popular with Raxawayne and is the only FMS liked by his people and now he’s connected with Ethiopia and putland for support so the bunker government can’t do shit. Two: Only alshaydaan will be defeated by an actual government and not by tribes. This whole war is fake and is a PR for donors to give Cuslow more money. ONLY SERIOUS clan is xadwadle and I’m afraid that’s not enough progress. 3: Finally I thought extensions were xaraam under farmaajo? But HAG is ok with extension now for a president who still has 3.5 years left? Anyways something is not adding up and as Somalis say “ Beenta Runta kadambeysa”. The truth will always come out and it doesn’t support anyone. But for the love of ALLAHSWT STOP MOVING THE GOALPOST.There's some thing called developments. The government's policy was to complete their terms and now it has agreed to extend for them inline with Hassan Sheikh's extension. However, No extension for Guudlawe and QoorQoor got only 6 months. it's laftagareen and Madoobe who got two years and Deni 1 year. i don't give a fuck since im from Hirshabelle and we can save money and time for abaaraha and Al Shabaab instead of wasting them on KG and JL. the point is no more elections under Madoobe and laftagareen. Xamsa will replace Madoobe (reer hirsi deal) Madoobe moved to the UAE people think he goes there for caafimaad but he moved his family there he bought a house.
kkk Don't start your HG vs Abgaal game with me sxbSahal makes sense when he discusses issues of federalism. But when he starts talking about HAG nonsense, he looses grip on reality. My observation on xawadle based on Sahal is they are like battered woman who even if you tell her the reality that abgal are manipulating and using you, she will never listen and will go back to her abuser. Harti abgal will never give up hiirshabeele, instead they will continue to use hawadle and other hawiye. They even sent them to go fight against al shabab while abgal are chilling in their villages.
Occasionally Sahal sees the reality of the game abgal are playing against him, but he always goes back to being wilfully blind from reality and pretend darod and other Somalis are his enemies.
Can’t say it better. Since the establishment of the USC till now, H.G and Abgaal have used xawadle specially abgaal to achieve their political goals and convinced them other Somali clans are big bad wolf. Also, I believe what’s driving Sahal crazy is farmaajo giving the Prez of Hiirshable to Abgal and wants that back as if that will even make a difference. He things if xawadle are back to prez, things will be glorious or something and he keeps making so many conspiracy theories to support that. Finally, xawadle are stuck with the alshaydaan and will feel the consequences of it because HAG will not help them specially abgal. There litterly chilling in shabelada in the beach taking pictures.Sahal makes sense when he discusses issues of federalism. But when he starts talking about HAG nonsense, he looses grip on reality. My observation on xawadle based on Sahal is they are like battered woman who even if you tell her the reality that abgal are manipulating and using and abusing you, she will never listen and will go back to her abuser. Harti abgal will never give up hiirshabeele, instead they will continue to use hawadle and other hawiye. They even sent them to go fight against al shabab while abgal are chilling in their villages.
Occasionally Sahal sees the reality of the game abgal are playing against him, but he always goes back to being wilfully blind from reality and pretend darod and other Somalis are his enemies.
Sahal don’t be sensitive sxb. You make your comments about PL or darood, it doesn’t bother me. I’m telling you how I see things. Last year, you said there would be a change in capital from Jowhar to Beledweyn, that didn’t happen. Let’s debate and discuss the current reality not what may or may not happen or fantasy about benadir state.kkk Don't start your HG vs Abgaal game with me sxbSahal makes sense when he discusses issues of federalism. But when he starts talking about HAG nonsense, he looses grip on reality. My observation on xawadle based on Sahal is they are like battered woman who even if you tell her the reality that abgal are manipulating and using you, she will never listen and will go back to her abuser. Harti abgal will never give up hiirshabeele, instead they will continue to use hawadle and other hawiye. They even sent them to go fight against al shabab while abgal are chilling in their villages.
Occasionally Sahal sees the reality of the game abgal are playing against him, but he always goes back to being wilfully blind from reality and pretend darod and other Somalis are his enemies.
HAG has triple structure: HG Galmudug, Hawadle Hirshabelle and Abgaal Banaadir. Current situation was created by Farmaajo and it has backfired him and his clan and has opened Pandora’s box on them that why you have two OGs in a "shir qaran" and now 3 abgaal not even Mudulood!
Hassan Sheikh and Abgaal are taking advantage of the situation created by Farmaajo by letting one Daarood kablalah suclan represent the whole clan the same thing Farmaajo did to the non Hawiye Hiraab. Hassan Sheikh doesn't want to correct what Farmaajo did for his clan he wants to kill two birds with one stone(let Abgaals finish their term and then bring back hawadle before the federal elections)
im friend with alot of Hawadle siyaasiyiin who meet him and that's what he tell them also i have non Hawadle UPD sources who tell me the same
as for Al Shabaab we did it for ourselves. Govt now is relaying on Hiiraan to open other fronts like Ceelbuur and maybe waceysle side and using the Highway no one can mess with important clan like us. we r the only Hawiye clan who control all their Xuduud without being in a power position who can say to us no? kkk
this map shows who r the real power of Hirshabelle let us see if Hassan Sheikh can say no to them
Sahal don’t be sensitive sxb. You make your comments about PL or darood, it doesn’t bother me. I’m telling you how I see things. Last year, you said there would be a change in capital from Jowhar to Beledweyn, that didn’t happen. Let’s debate and discuss the current reality not what may or may not happen or fantasy about benadir state.kkk Don't start your HG vs Abgaal game with me sxbSahal makes sense when he discusses issues of federalism. But when he starts talking about HAG nonsense, he looses grip on reality. My observation on xawadle based on Sahal is they are like battered woman who even if you tell her the reality that abgal are manipulating and using you, she will never listen and will go back to her abuser. Harti abgal will never give up hiirshabeele, instead they will continue to use hawadle and other hawiye. They even sent them to go fight against al shabab while abgal are chilling in their villages.
Occasionally Sahal sees the reality of the game abgal are playing against him, but he always goes back to being wilfully blind from reality and pretend darod and other Somalis are his enemies.
HAG has triple structure: HG Galmudug, Hawadle Hirshabelle and Abgaal Banaadir. Current situation was created by Farmaajo and it has backfired him and his clan and has opened Pandora’s box on them that why you have two OGs in a "shir qaran" and now 3 abgaal not even Mudulood!
Hassan Sheikh and Abgaal are taking advantage of the situation created by Farmaajo by letting one Daarood kablalah suclan represent the whole clan the same thing Farmaajo did to the non Hawiye Hiraab. Hassan Sheikh doesn't want to correct what Farmaajo did for his clan he wants to kill two birds with one stone(let Abgaals finish their term and then bring back hawadle before the federal elections)
im friend with alot of Hawadle siyaasiyiin who meet him and that's what he tell them also i have non Hawadle UPD sources who tell me the same
as for Al Shabaab we did it for ourselves. Govt now is relaying on Hiiraan to open other fronts like Ceelbuur and maybe waceysle side and using the Highway no one can mess with important clan like us. we r the only Hawiye clan who control all their Xuduud without being in a power position who can say to us no? kkk
this map shows who r the real power of Hirshabelle let us see if Hassan Sheikh can say no to them
No one will give you anything in Somalia, your assuming abgal have one thought process, but the reality is within their own, they probably have different thought process and interests. Sh sharif doesn’t have the same exact interests as Hassan shiekh etc. same with their subclans.
Your strategy seems to be to give more things to a bully who has taken what your perceive is yours by right. Why would that bully give you anything when you give so easily and listen to their sweet words?
A smarter strategy is to keep your options open and judge by action not words.
not accurate. my position was nothing will work uncless the Gentleman's agreement is restored. in the election days, our Dhaqan like the late Nabadon Elmi Hagar who was against Guudlawe more than Al shabaab have changed after listening carefully to our siyaasiyiin. we had to choose between our mps to be picked in Jowhar like Ceelwaaq or Baladweyne and Rooble was supporting Jowhar just so he can move the mx ones to Kismaayo not just bc he was against Farmaajo but for the sake of his friend Abdullahi Arab. Kismaayo ahd Jowhar did not work like Ceelwaaq there was matabaan suggestion so based on this our dhaqan reached smart position that agrees to reach heshiis with Guudlawe after he arrives immediately without this they couldn't force him on us we can take lamagalaay easily even with their ciyaal bac ka sii you heard before badbaado hiiraan officers but for the sake of having free mps we ignored him we said hadii wax socon waayaan doorashada kadib ayaan markale diidi waa isku raacney. we reached Good decision waxaan ka dhex faaideysanay Farmaajo iyo rooble. Fahad waa fasaxney laakin waxeena dib aan u dhiganay guudlaawaba xabsi aan u taxaabney!Sahal don’t be sensitive sxb. You make your comments about PL or darood, it doesn’t bother me. I’m telling you how I see things. Last year, you said there would be a change in capital from Jowhar to Beledweyn, that didn’t happen. Let’s debate and discuss the current reality not what may or may not happen or fantasy about benadir state.kkk Don't start your HG vs Abgaal game with me sxbSahal makes sense when he discusses issues of federalism. But when he starts talking about HAG nonsense, he looses grip on reality. My observation on xawadle based on Sahal is they are like battered woman who even if you tell her the reality that abgal are manipulating and using you, she will never listen and will go back to her abuser. Harti abgal will never give up hiirshabeele, instead they will continue to use hawadle and other hawiye. They even sent them to go fight against al shabab while abgal are chilling in their villages.
Occasionally Sahal sees the reality of the game abgal are playing against him, but he always goes back to being wilfully blind from reality and pretend darod and other Somalis are his enemies.
HAG has triple structure: HG Galmudug, Hawadle Hirshabelle and Abgaal Banaadir. Current situation was created by Farmaajo and it has backfired him and his clan and has opened Pandora’s box on them that why you have two OGs in a "shir qaran" and now 3 abgaal not even Mudulood!
Hassan Sheikh and Abgaal are taking advantage of the situation created by Farmaajo by letting one Daarood kablalah suclan represent the whole clan the same thing Farmaajo did to the non Hawiye Hiraab. Hassan Sheikh doesn't want to correct what Farmaajo did for his clan he wants to kill two birds with one stone(let Abgaals finish their term and then bring back hawadle before the federal elections)
im friend with alot of Hawadle siyaasiyiin who meet him and that's what he tell them also i have non Hawadle UPD sources who tell me the same
as for Al Shabaab we did it for ourselves. Govt now is relaying on Hiiraan to open other fronts like Ceelbuur and maybe waceysle side and using the Highway no one can mess with important clan like us. we r the only Hawiye clan who control all their Xuduud without being in a power position who can say to us no? kkk
this map shows who r the real power of Hirshabelle let us see if Hassan Sheikh can say no to them
No one will give you anything in Somalia, your assuming abgal have one thought process, but the reality is within their own, they probably have different thought process and interests. Sh sharif doesn’t have the same exact interests as Hassan shiekh etc. same with their subclans.
Your strategy seems to be to give more things to a bully who has taken what your perceive is yours by right. Why would that bully give you anything when you give so easily and listen to their sweet words?
A smarter strategy is to keep your options open and judge by action not words.
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