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UPD will be the first to be able to rig the "Direct Elections" and get away with it

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UPD will be the first to be able to rig the "Direct Elections" and get away with it

Postby sahal80 » Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:03 am

im making this thread for the 2028 Generation and for some naive dreamers!


There are two goals behind this government's fight against khawaarijta: 1-first is to protect the Oil companies that will operate in the area they control now
2- to control the security at least in Xamar and the central and southwestern regions in order to continue to rule by force because when you rely on AU and foreign embassies for security, they will dictate you what to do and what not do and this is what happened to the former Governments. can the UPD control or not? This is another issue but if they can then yes!
Add to that the tribal factor.This is a government that is supported by the Xamar and central Somalia majority clans there will be no threat to it like Badbaado qaran.

so according to this, after agreed upon(wadar-ogol ) two years of extensions for Hassan Sheikh by late 2028 they will rig the elections.

in the next NCC meeting in December wich coincides with the end of the Laftagareen term, Gonna make deal with him, QoorQoor and Madoobe to stay for two years and same goes for Hassan Sheikh!

this will be like 17 September agreement it will be binding agreement. also in order to do a Somali mid-term elections similar to the US Governors at one time and come up with a new stuff beesha caalamka will accept something like that as long it's wadar ogol

the reason Hassan Sh lets the gareens have their two years bc he wants his men to be elected in the middle of his term so he can control the next elections after his 2 years extension! if he installs them now their term will end before 2028!

now how can some sacabooley(unarmed) like Shariif, Farmaajo, Kheyre win under Hassan Sheikh, Mahad Salaad(Galmudug)Abdirizaq Omar(Hirshabelle) Roobow(KG)win elections that people will vote under them? this time they will control both mps and the presidential elections they will make forged ballot boxes and you will see them boycotting it

the only scenario some of you think is using the parliament and motion against Hassan Sh. to answer this; The two deputy speakers are pro UPD so Adan madoobe is in a weak position he can be ousted he knows this but the more important the security will be used against any anti-stability elements and mostly Farmaajo will not be tolerated in Xamar others will have local privilege they already warned him!. finally this is Abgaal led gov with huge HG influence and regional Hawadle allies no way to collapse before the end of it's term including the two year extension.

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Re: UPD will be the first to be able to rig the "Direct Elections" and get away with it

Postby GeoSeven » Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:57 am

I have no doubt in my mind they will try and most likely be succesful at that. With the flow of money gained from resource exploitation and investments associated with, it will be difficult to dislodge this crew Sahal. Defining political, social and individual stakes will be moulded and cemented in the coming 4 years.

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Re: UPD will be the first to be able to rig the "Direct Elections" and get away with it

Postby BigBreak » Mon Nov 07, 2022 11:11 am

Sheikh Sharif should support HSM and help the president centralise Somalia

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Re: UPD will be the first to be able to rig the "Direct Elections" and get away with it

Postby ReturnOfMariixmaan » Mon Nov 07, 2022 11:13 am

The gates of hell are open night and day;
Smooth the descent, and easy is the way:
But to return, and view the cheerful skies,
In this the task and mighty labor lies.”


Virgil, The Aeneid


I say that to say. Don’t count your eggs yet.

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Re: UPD will be the first to be able to rig the "Direct Elections" and get away with it

Postby sahal80 » Tue Nov 08, 2022 7:08 pm

Update!


Xog dheeraad ah oon helay

maamulgoboleedyada labo sano ayay dhameysanayaan

Hirshabelle Sanbaloolshe baa loo wadaa labada sano kadib. Abdirizaq wasiirka ayaaba ku badan maadama uu qaraabo hassan Sh la yahay Hirshabelle qof aan beesha ka socon ma matali karo iyo Dawrka Sanbaloolshe ee Dagaalka Hiiraan

Mahad Salaad waa official in Galmudug loo wado. shirar hoose ayuu beelaha galmudug kula jiraa.

Xamza for JL . Kenya iyo OGs ayaaba ogol. raysulwaasre cusub labo sano kadib

Madoobe oo dhahay manoqonayo ilaa Gedo lagu wareejiyo waxaa lagu qanciyay shir reer Gedo oo Garbahaarey ka dhici doono oo ah Reer Gedo Heshiis ah Ahmed madoobana la heshiis ah. taliyaal badan oo waxaa jira oon Mx aheen oo Gedo ka shaqeeya oo booqdo mahad salaad. saraakiisha itoobiya waa amisom siyaasad ma faro gashan karaan Dawlada toos ayba u heesataa laakin waxay rabtaa in dibuheshiisiin marka hore lagu qabto intaan madoobe lagu wareejin labada sano ee u dhimin

Deni shiid uu ku noqdey Doorashada aaranjaana waa kala tageen marka kaash baa la siiyay asaga u gaar ah sidaas ayuu kula heshiiyay Hassan Sh

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Re: UPD will be the first to be able to rig the "Direct Elections" and get away with it

Postby BigBreak » Tue Nov 08, 2022 7:33 pm

what about LaftaGareen?

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Re: UPD will be the first to be able to rig the "Direct Elections" and get away with it

Postby sahal80 » Tue Nov 08, 2022 7:43 pm

what about LaftaGareen?
Labadiisa sano wuu dhaysanaa kadibna waa la burinaa.


Mahad Salaad wuxuu ka baqayaa in dawrkiisa NISA iyo Dagaal uu farmaajo ku qaado haduu soo noqdo uu saameyn ku yeesho beelaha Galmudug maadama uu Madaxweyne u noqonayo. marabo in beelaha qaar u arkaan Extremist. Ugaaska Caabudwaaq ee Reer Canada ah uu la kulmay asagoo ku dhahay in dagaalkiisa Farmaajo uusan ka dhigneen inuu beeshiisa Dagaal kula jiro.

ninkaan
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 4929096524


AAW banaankaa la dhigay waa loo diiday Galmudug oo Cayr loo wado


Sanbaloolshe xataa Hawiyonimada Card ay ka tahay. xiligii doorashada lacag badan uu ka helay waliba HG hadana Hirshabelle uu u isticmaalooyaa. wuxuu soo jeediyay in XL aadan yabaal qabtaan waxaa diiday Jeyte intaas waa barnaamijkiisa Hirshabelle. hada wuxuu dhahay "Galbeedka" Hiiraan aan u jeedsanaynaa si uu Gugundhabaha u kasbado!

Jeyte Xamar uu joogaa laba baabuur oo bulletporoof aa la siiyay ma ogi inuu isbadali doono!

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Re: UPD will be the first to be able to rig the "Direct Elections" and get away with it

Postby Gubbet » Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:48 pm

Inaad nin kale ka dabo malafsatid mooyaane adigu goormaad wax qabsan karinleey yahay! :lol:

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Re: UPD will be the first to be able to rig the "Direct Elections" and get away with it

Postby sahal80 » Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:45 am

adiga raciya(loo taliye) baad tahay anigana(al Raaci) taliye waa markii laga soo tago seedi safiir ii goob wax aad xaq dabiici u leedahay

Kursiga reer Hiiraanbaa leh waxaan tusaale usoo qaatey Abdirizaq iyo Sanbaloolshaa sida aan Cayr tusaale ugu soo qaatey Mahad Salaad iyo AAW laakin waxaan ka hadley siyaasadooda doorashada inkastoo ay awood ku imaanayaan hadana waxay soo jiidanayaan beelaha inleen rag ku ehel ah baa la tartamaya kadibna seeftoodey la soo bixi markey soo baxaan. tusaale waxaan u soo qaatey ugaaskaaga oo mahad Salaad habeen kaste Canbuulo u doonta. this guy wuxuu rabaa inuu clan section galiyo threadkeyga ah oo kaste so from now on i will make for the insignificant Gedo iyo madoobe its own thread haku rida haduu rabo i will make another one after that hadana warka meeshaas uu ku xiranyahay meel aan saameyn siyaasad laheen marabo inay iiga cayaarto this important thread.


Threadkeyga soo socda: Shirka Garbahaareey ee reer Gedo heshiis ah ahmed madoobana la heshiis ah you can put it in the clan section.
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Re: UPD will be the first to be able to rig the "Direct Elections" and get away with it

Postby original dervish » Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:20 pm

Sahal made a extremely compelling analysis on UPD remaining in power indefinitely.

However, there is one flaw in his analysis.......Will there even be a functioning Somalia after years of hsm misrule?

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Re: UPD will be the first to be able to rig the "Direct Elections" and get away with it

Postby sahal80 » Wed Nov 09, 2022 5:10 pm

Sahal made a extremely compelling analysis on UPD remaining in power indefinitely.

However, there is one flaw in his analysis.......Will there even be a functioning Somalia after years of hsm misrule?
i didn't say indefinitely everything has an end but two terms for sure with two years extension. we will have Govt backed by armed clans and UPD led FMS including JL . Hamza is Candidate to lead it after Madoobe and Kenya and minister Adan Ducaale are supporting him. Hawiye central regions will be free from Al Shabaab by next year. as for Xamar the security will be under local army similar to the gobolada dhexe why? people will protect their ownwrship now is f-king Somaliweyn and Qawleysato.


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