Somaliland and Djibouti uniting should be Plan B

[BigBreak]

Although I believe Somaliland will eventually be recognised as a separate country by most/all countries I don't know if ictiraaf is definitely going to come. As a plan B, Somaliland should approach Djibouti to unite as one country as a federation of two states. Being unrecognised and cut off from the globe is a challenge for the Somaliland people and Djibouti is too small and is vulnerable from numerous threats eg climate change or Habashi/Afar expansionism. Combining our ports and other assets is a win win for both Somalilanders and Djiboutians

[Khalid Ali]

Not bad I don’t reject it since we have a big stake in jabuuti
I welcome this so in a sense I am for unioninisg I want jabuuti somaliland and haws and reserve area with harar and diredhawe both to be part of a larger greater adal state if Abyssinia colllapses

[theyuusuf143]

I think it's good Idea , we can contribute natural resources , human capital, and large territory. But I think Our peaple are more business minded while most Djiboutians work for the government. This difference must be considered. The afar is an other problem they don't want to see more Somalis. Somaliland and Djibouti has always been one country for centuries, since 1200s when Ifat ruled the land.

[abdikarim86]

Bullshit.

Djibouti and Somaliland will never be United.
Different cultures and different mentalities.

[BigBreak]

Bullshit.

Djibouti and Somaliland will never be United.
Different cultures and different mentalities.

You're exaggerating bro, any cultural differences is minor and can be bridged surely. Isaaq and Ciise live in both sides of the white man made border

[abdikarim86]

Bullshit.

Djibouti and Somaliland will never be United.
Different cultures and different mentalities.

You're exaggerating bro, any cultural differences is minor and can be bridged surely. Isaaq and Ciise live in both sides of the white man made border

I haven’t posted in this forum for years
Still pretending to be Isaaq I see.
Some things don’t change

[theyuusuf143]

Bullshit.

Djibouti and Somaliland will never be United.
Different cultures and different mentalities.

We only have three options, seeking recognition , joining Djibouti , or joining Ethiopia. I prefer Ethiopia over Djibouti because they are more willing to accept us, joining one of the biggest economies in Africa is a blessing. Taking a leave from Crimea annexation is good justification for Ethiopia to take over somaliland even if Somalia protests. Qadaadweyntuba sawaaxiligay Ku biirayan. Hada kadib we should be open minded to discuss our future. Sticking to one goal is not good strategy. And Somalis will never agree to release us.

[BigBreak]

Bullshit.

Djibouti and Somaliland will never be United.
Different cultures and different mentalities.

You're exaggerating bro, any cultural differences is minor and can be bridged surely. Isaaq and Ciise live in both sides of the white man made border

I haven’t posted in this forum for years
Still pretending to be Isaaq I see.
Some things don’t change

And why would you say I'm not Isaaq? Ad homeneim nonsense sxb

[mahoka]

Bullshit.

Djibouti and Somaliland will never be United.
Different cultures and different mentalities.

You're exaggerating bro, any cultural differences is minor and can be bridged surely. Isaaq and Ciise live in both sides of the white man made border

I haven’t posted in this forum for years
Still pretending to be Isaaq I see.
Some things don’t change

So I am not the only fella saying this person is a sheegato, not sure why Khalid and Yusuf think he is isaaq

[abdikarim86]

Bullshit.

Djibouti and Somaliland will never be United.
Different cultures and different mentalities.

We only have three options, seeking recognition , joining Djibouti , or joining Ethiopia. I prefer Ethiopia over Djibouti because they are more willing to accept us, joining one of the biggest economies in Africa is a blessing. Taking a leave from Crimea annexation is good justification for Ethiopia to take over somaliland even if Somalia protests. Qadaadweyntuba sawaaxiligay Ku biirayan. Hada kadib we should be open minded to discuss our future. Sticking to one goal is not good strategy. And Somalis will never agree to release us.

Ethiopia is an authoritarian, freedom hating cesspit.
It’s 100x worse than Afweyne’s regime.

No free enterprising, no free speech/media, no democracy or elections, no tolerance and a heavy burdensome centralised state.

There’s nothing worse.

As for Djibouti - It’s the same as Ethiopia except not as extreme. The Ciise are not friends sxb.

Why do you think the Habar Awal and Samaroon population of
Djibouti has collapsed over the last 30 years?
Slowly slowly they’ve made life difficult.
Take it from someone who was born in Djibouti.

[abdikarim86]

Mahoka - He was always known as sheegato. Far too obsessed with the Daarood/Hawiye duopoly that is Somalia.
Like actually caring about its politics.

I have yet to meet an Isaaq who cares for Xamar politics, we are either ignorant of it or are dispassionate about it.

I have no idea why Khalid and Yuusuf entertain him.

[original dervish]

After 30 years of banging your heads against a brick wall, finally folk are recognising the futility of unilateral declarations of independence.

I still, as a stakeholder, advocate for SL to re-engage with Xamar politics.

I don't see what you have to lose by sitting at the table and negotiating a North- South power sharing agreement.

The new agreement should be the basis for a referendum further down the line.

The road to SL independence runs through Xamar.
All the other suggestions are pie in the sky.

Imagine all the bilateral agreements, IMF/World Bank, trade deals, etc. SL will be able to finally achieve a peace dividend for its people.

[theyuusuf143]

After 30 years of banging your heads against a brick wall, finally folk are recognising the futility of unilateral declarations of independence.

I still, as a stakeholder, advocate for SL to re-engage with Xamar politics.

I don't see what you have to lose by sitting at the table and negotiating a North- South power sharing agreement.

The new agreement should be the basis for a referendum further down the line.

The road to SL independence runs through Xamar.
All the other suggestions are pie in the sky.

Imagine all the bilateral agreements, IMF/World Bank, trade deals, etc. SL will be able to finally achieve a peace dividend for its people.

There is no strong government to deal with in xamar. In reality Somalia doesn't exist. It's just a name. And it won't add one cent to our economy. We already made our mind to never join somalia. It's either our way or we gonna sell the whole project to highest bidder. You can take your your land and join Somalia. The sooner we get rid of you the better. Let's take our separate ways.

[abdikarim86]

After 30 years of banging your heads against a brick wall, finally folk are recognising the futility of unilateral declarations of independence.

I still, as a stakeholder, advocate for SL to re-engage with Xamar politics.

I don't see what you have to lose by sitting at the table and negotiating a North- South power sharing agreement.

The new agreement should be the basis for a referendum further down the line.

The road to SL independence runs through Xamar.
All the other suggestions are pie in the sky.

Imagine all the bilateral agreements, IMF/World Bank, trade deals, etc. SL will be able to finally achieve a peace dividend for its people.

There is no strong government to deal with in xamar. In reality Somalia doesn't exist. It's just a name. And it won't add one cent to our economy. We already made our mind to never join somalia. It's either our way or we gonna sell the whole project to highest bidder. You can take your your land and join Somalia. The sooner we get rid of you the better. Let's take our separate ways.

Agree to an extent

Somalia/Somaliland talks should only be entertained the day ee lakala baxayo and then inshallah we can be rid of the Daarood once and for all.

Until then - Status quo. We must not budge an inch even if it takes another 30 years

[original dervish]

In politics you have to recognise change when it happens.

The glorious blue revolution in Lascaanood has changed things forever. Its the Somali equivalent of the Berlin Wall coming down.

The pandoras' box has been opened, the ship sailed.
Nothing will ever be the same again in SL.
Instead of denying this obvious reality you should accept it and act accordingly.