Allowing Sex At Sixteen?

[avowedly-agnostic]

QansaGabeyle

What's my contradiction dear? I ought to stress that I'm not my sister's owner . It may come as an astonishing surprise but in England we don't chain our sisters and female relatives to the kitchen sink, nor do we insist they dress as walking tents in those rare ocassions when we do let them venture outside of the home.

As for your sugestion that I change my name, I would except that "avowedly stupid" makes no grammatical sense. Next time my intellectially challenged friend, choose your words carefully.

The rebel

Tell me sir, how many times have you beaten your wife today?

COOL MAN

It Seems like you and your other friend have trouble making sense of words: "avowedly liar" makes no grammatical sense either. Tell me, did you and QansaGabeyle both drop out of high school around the same time when you decided upon mugging old aged pensioners as your future careers?

[Lord Diplock]

What a joker this f&cker is. 'my sister's boyfriend' kulaaha

[Gedo_Boy]

avowedly-agnostic,

I am not puritanically right wing, I'm not free from sin and that is why I'm saying I don't want the society to take a serious toll on my kids.

I don't think there is anything inherently wrong w/ sex education at schools, if you're giving them the right message, but I don't see why parents can't do it.

Look at WHY sex-ed is taught in schools in the first place. They don't teach abstinence, they teach you about using condoms when you have sex outside of marriage and how to do it safely and that is wrong. Between the growing rates of STDs, children born out of wedlock, and crimes related to sex there are serious problems society is not addressing.

[Cheroke]

Islam permits ages as young as 15 to be fully considered as a young adult and everything u encounter or have committed positive or negitive will be written down.

As far as marriage goes girls who have attained puberty, can be married.

[michael_ital]

LoooooooooooooL @ Sir Lug!

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Agnostic
If you want intellectual discourse, free from insult and emotion, then don't bother talking to Somalis. It's not their strong suit.

[Happy Desperado]

i would not allow my kids to get married before age 20 let alone have sex!

[Galol]

My view on the matter is that we all Fock Sir Luggoyo on alternate nights!

This mothafocka is becoming filthier by the second. He has nothing but arse focking on his mind. But what do you expect from someone who has chit for a brain

[avowedly-agnostic]

Gedo Boy

Don't you think the concept of marriage should be based on love, and a desire for two people to share the rest of their lives together ? That said, is it really a sensible idea to tell young people (according to your stance) to get married just so they may have "lawful" sex?

Further, given your support for under age sex (within the boundries of marriage), do you think that the age of sex could be reduced to say 15 or 14? We know that teens hit puberty as early 11 and 12.

[Gedo_Boy]

Avowedly,

Are you gonna tell me next that there is "one and only one soulmate out there for you" ???

There are many compatible men/woman out there for any given person......they should try to find one and I would support them.

Plus, love is also something that grows with intimate contact..........why do you think people call sex 'making love'?

Why do you think in this day and age, there are so many cases where people are boy/girlfriend for 10+ years, decide to get married & then divorce within a year? Wouldn't you think they know what they are getting into?

If they are attracted to each other and feel their personalities are compatible, they should get married before they get freaky and I guarantee you that love will grow between them:

"And among His Signs is this, that He created for you wives from among yourselves, that you may find repose in them, and He has put between you affection and mercy. Verily, in that are indeed signs for a people who reflect."

[Gedo_Boy]

I don't agree w/ the term under age sex. There is nothing magical about pre-post 18 years old that suddenly makes you 'ready for sex'.........it's just an arbitrary number. But to answer your question.

As far as "underage sex" goes, it would depend but I think I would let them pass puberty first.

I don't want to go into specific age in a hypothetical question because answering that kind of question is pointless when I can't see/assess the readiness of my child.

It depends on the circumstances, but the general idea is the earlier the better The checklist goes:

1. If they're physically Hot & Ready
2. If they're mentally Ready, even if with a little childish tendencies still.
3. If I can help them financially until they get more responsible. Responsibility teaches responsibility and youth can still be irresponsible into their late 20s, so 'waiting til they're responsible' is pointless.

Look at teen life nowadays, it is so driven and charged by sex that many young person can't focus on anything else but sex and how to get it.

How many more college graduates, how many less teenage pregnancies, and overall how many more succesful young people would you have if that 'sex' question was resolved for youth.

[avowedly-agnostic]

GG

Am I right in understanding that you think a 16 year old who only wants to satisfy a temporary impulse without necessarily wanting to committ to a long term marriage committment first ought to marry?

As regards the age of consensual sex, I agree that the readiness of a child to have sex ought to be judged on a case by case basis, and I fully understand why it might be imprudent to throw around numbers given that some teens develop sexual maturity faster than others.

A further question: would you be less in favour of your daughter having sex at sixteen as opposed to your son, or do you feel (as I'm sure many do) that you ought to "safeguard" your daughter's virginity at least until she reaches a ripe old age?

[Gedo_Boy]

How many non-religious people ending up 'finding their soulmate' by things starting out as a 'fling' or a 'sexual romp'.

You are worrying about things that will take care of themselves biologically. If a man & woman are initially attracted to each other & their personalities are compatible after a courting period, if they get married & "discover" each other, I think there is potential for a loving lifelong relationship. Divorce is never out of the picture, but do you think it would be any worse than the current divorce rates? No, society isn't solving the problem as it is, in fact it is exacerbating the problem tremendously. This would just improve the problem.

Plus, I wouldn't force my child on the first potential spouse, but there is bound to be someone compatible.

No, contrary to what you may believe about me, I would respect my daughter's sexuality just as I respect my son's. She has rights too and I wouldn't suppress her sexuality, but it would be in the context of a halal relationship.

Islam doen't prevent anything without providing a better alternative. Marriage builds society, fornication erodes it.

[avowedly-agnostic]

A couple of years ago, this young girl captured national headlines here in Britain when she got pregnant at 14, given she clearly had reached sexual maturity at that age, should society have permitted her to have sex (let's suppose for the sake of argument that she was in a marriage when she fell pregnant)?

Is fourteen perhaps too young to be fondling about?

[Gedo_Boy]

But why ask yourself that question "Is it too young" when it is indeed happening?

It's largely irrelevant whether or not it's theoretically or ideologically too young if it is indeed happening.

But considering the influences of society, it will only get worse believe me.

Why do you think Islam restricts the free mingling of males/females past the age of sexuality maturity, enforces modest clothing, and prohibits the propogation of indecent & arousing displays of sexuality.

The punishments for indecency in Islam are not if it is done privately at home, but when those acts are publicly shoved down people's throats and corrupt them.