KIKE KOCKSUKKERS KILL KIDS!!!!!!!

[DawladSade]

Dhuusdheer dhuusada igala tag you blubberin fool

i see no need to defend myself against a narcisstic old house negro like you. i swear you and the others gaalo madow perps breath, see, and smell islam from everythin includin innocent women and children bein sprayed with bombardment.

your sick muthaphucka and ur inside is spoiled. example: a thread was started about a heinous crime that has even called kofi anan into the security council chamber pleadin for a condemnation of israel and that has even made condoleeza rice temporarily break ranks with her boss by expressin profound shock and callin for an immediate ceasefire and all ur slimy snail of life did was ask us to examine a phuckin hypothetical situation that is not here nor there ALL becuz the children and women killed were MUSLIM.

save me the fake CRAP muthaphucka...there's no lee-way here..you other speak out about this aggression or you support..these are humans and i wish you were caught up there instead of those innocent children u athiet perp..lets then wat you would have thought of that situation you phukkin XAYAWAAN

tell me again how you survived the civil war??

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

"You're ignoring the fact that the Israeli's intentionally zapped the building.
knowing full well the WHOLE time that Hezbollah had left the area, and weren't actually in there. It was done just to make a statement. Just like the hit on the U.N was "accidental". The famed Israeli marksmanship has been anything but surgical."

Look, Mick, I ain't saying the Israelis here are right. But you're saying that all these Hizbollah rocket attacks and provocations don't mean anything, and I'm saying they do. Now look, there's been a million rocket attacks and a million little provocations and they all meant something. Everyone acts likes they don't but they do, that's what's so dangerous about the whole thing. There's an insidious something going on there where, nobody really talks about it, but you know it, Hizbollah knows it - the focking Israelis know it, and Hizbollah should better focking know better. Those are Israeli citizens getting killed. They aren't going to have a sense of humor about that shit, you know what I'm saying?

[QansaGabeyle]

"But you're saying that all these Hizbollah rocket attacks and provocations don't mean anything"

Ok where did he say this? Are you into putting words in peoples mouths?


"and I'm saying they do."

Ok let us agree they do. But tell me something, what does bombing a civilian apartment have to do with attacking Hezbollah? According to Israelis, hezbollah fired rockets from a building in the same city but fled the city before this bombing took place. You are trying to justify even what the Israel government has deemed wrong and apologized for it. Mad Jew, you want to see all Lebonese wiped out regardless of age, gender or even religion and that is the truth.

ps. Don't bother to refute what I said.......

[dhuusa_deer]

Dawladsade,

If you think decorating your posts with verbal defecations will make your arguement/s more forceful, well I got news for you lout. It doesn't. So end it if you wanna be taken seriously.

Second, think a little before you start pounding the keyboard cause your posts are so emotionally laden it's hard to make a meaning of your central arguement. For example, you labour to inform us to either condemn the bombing of civilians or risk being seen as supportering them. But since NO1 in this thread dare even hint a timid support of these killings, you're attacking straw man kiddo.

My question about what Arabs would do if they possessed same potential to reek havoc as Isrealis has sound reasoning to it. It's intended to show that BOTH sides in this conflict would spare NOTHING, go to extreme length to undermine the other. Isreali vs arab/muslim conflict was NEVER in my view a contest between good guys vs bad guys but between two equally detestable sides. The bottomline is this: arabs would do crimes unspeakable or worse than Israilis have done hitherto.

Lastly, I stand by my earlier accusation that many muslims are using this tragedy as cheap political dig at Isreal.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Qansa
Man, don't be ridiculous. Remember, I am not taking sides here. I am simply pointing out that there are two sides to this conflict and that both sides deserve to have their viewpoints heard.

I HONESTLY don't care how many Jews or Lebanese get killed. I don't know any of them, I don't want to know any of them. They both want to kill each other. They both villify each other. They both pretty much deserve what happens to them. When Israel pulled out of South Lebanon, there was basically a deal of live and let live. Hizbollah was directed by its Godfather, Iran, to provoke the Israelis and it did. This is the outcome they wanted. Amhedinjad has an agenda and he's pressing it daily. He is trying to pull together an anti-US coalition, he is trying to slowly squeeze the US out of the gulf region so Iran can take it's place and impose its own regional hegemony. That's what this is about.

But he doesn't really have the muscle to make it happen. So the end result will just be a lot of dead Israeli and Lebanese and I am not going to lose one minutes sleep over it. Are you? I mean, deep down, do you really give a shit about these idiots? They deserve each other.

[QansaGabeyle]

mad jew, you do not feel sorry for anyone because you can not relate to the peoples sufferings. you grew up in peaceful massachussetts in a modest income household, joined the army after dropping out of high school, were based in some compound in mogdishu where you worked as a secretary filing the military files and taking phone calls, left the army when the u.s pulled out and now you chase tyrannys in thailand. how can anyone expect you to relate to the lebonese and israelis. you do not even understand the sufferings that come along with war. for someone who has experienced war and the sh*t that comes along with it first hand, i can tell you it is not something you would wish on anyone or even be indifferent about.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

"mad jew,"

I am not Jewish. Nor was a born into a Jewish family. My mother was Irish and my father was half Scotish and half native American.

"you do not feel sorry for anyone because you can relate to the peoples sufferings."

I can relate. But sometimes I choose not too. The people of southern Lebanon made a deal with the devil. The Israelis, by consistently supporting hawkish factions, made a deal with the devil. I am short on sympathy for both sides. They have openly supported governing bodies that have brought them conflict.

"you grew up in peaceful massachussetts in a modest income household, joined the army, were based in some compound in mogdishu"

This is true. I went to Norwich in 1980, graduated in 84 and entered the Army. I did grow up in a modest, middle class home. We were neither rich nor poor, but I never went hungary.

"where you worked as a secretary filing the military files and taking phone calls,"

No, I was the Brigade Intelligence officer for the QRF. I am sure you can fact check this. Get the book "Falcon Brigade" by Larry Casper to confirm.

"left the army over when the u.s pulled out and now you chase tyrannys in thailand."

I haven't left the Army yet. I am still on active duty. BUT, I do plan to retire next June, move to Thailand, and open "MAC's Cafe" in either Mukdahan or Nakhon Phanom (not sure on location just yet). So you weren't all that far off.

"how can anyone expect you to relate to the lebonese and israelis. you do not even understand the sufferings that come along with war. for someone who has experienced war and the sh*t that comes along with it first hand, i can tell you it is not something you would wish on anyone or even be indifferent about."

Actually, you might be surprised. I have a great deal of compassion for the truly "innocent" victims. Esspecially the kids. But not in the Levant. It would be easier to have compassion if these same people who are now crying about how innocent they were did not supply their sons to be Hizbollah militiamen. If they did not allow Hizbollah to hide their weapons in their basements and neighborhoods. If they were not at rallys last week screaming "death to Israel" and burning Israeli flags. Come on man, you know what's going on here. You can't support violent conflict and then claim innocence. The innocent in Qansa left that town when the fighting first broke out. After the first day or two of fighting, only the hard core Hizbollah supporters were left.

In Somalia I felt truly bad for some of the poor victims there. People who really were just unfortunates caught up in the whole thing. BUT, those were people who when the bullets were flying were taking cover, who did not try and plant land mines, who did not support those who did, who just wanted to get their families someplace safe. If you start supporting militias, if you start participating in gunfights - you are no longer innocent, regardless of how justifiable your cause. I would never claim that US soldiers fighting in Mog were "innocent". Neither were most of the Haber Gedir.

Well, the innocent Lebanese of Southern Lebanon are long gone. Hard core supporters of Hizbollah are what remain.

[Gedo_Boy]

MAD MAC,

All the confusion & bloodshed will occur if mankind rebels from God and tries to rule themselves.

But we try to beautify it, and call it 'national interests' and stuff.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Gedo
There has NEVER been a period of peaceful coexistence across the globe.

Now, please spare me the "if only everyone would follow Islam, all would be OK." I could say the same thing about Bhudism. If everyone would follow Bhudism, the world would be a peaceful place. Bhudism is even more peaceful than Islam. Or if everyone would follow the teachings of the new testament and turn the other cheek and become pacifist, then it would be a peaceful world. But I am not going to become Muslim, you are not going to become a Deist, etc. etc. etc.

So that solution is no solution at all. Try again.

[DawladSade]

Dhusadheer


Sell your story elsewhere. I can see through you axmaqaa tahay wasee.

How could you NOT stand against the Israeli bombardment of the lebanese civilians without leavin the mainstream and bein without credibility? it is nearly impossible for you to voice pro-israeli views in relation to what's going on at the moment.

rather your aim was to give sympathy and reason to the israeli bombardment by introducing a clearly hypothetical situation in the equation which would serve as a dampenin of the rightous indignition and fury of the arab/muslim populace.

the proof? not once have we seen you express criticism of whats going on and indeed your first post in this very subject was to voice that hypothetical situation in an effort to humanize the israeli barbaricy. it was only after i called you out for your wacalnimo that you tried to casually flick off any accusation on my part by voicin, not agreeing, with the general sentiment of the ppl here.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Sade
When Hamas and Al Jihad were sending suicide bombers into Israel and blowing up people at bus stops and in restaraunts, were you aggrieved and outraged? Or did you say "Well, that's bad, but it's the Israelis own fault."?

Let me ask you something, if you were Omert, and the rocket attacks were striking your cities, how would you react?

[DawladSade]

[quote]When Hamas and Al Jihad were sending suicide bombers into Israel and blowing up people at bus stops and in restaraunts, were you aggrieved and outraged? Or did you say "Well, that's bad, but it's the Israelis own fault."?

Let me ask you something, if you were Omert, and the rocket attacks were striking your cities, how would you react?[/quote]


Mad Yahuud--I will give you one chance to tell me what's wrong with your questions. ONE CHANCE.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Typical Somali, can't answer the question but attacks the individual attacker.

[Intellectualsomali]

I could be a "typical somali" but American foreign policy is being hijacked by the right wing. Where is Bill Clinton- by far the best president of the modern times.

I have been reading many newspapers today and the whole world is united in condemning the massacres of innocent civilians (except the right wing adminstration of Bush and the lost Blair (romour has it that there is a revolt).


Israel has miscalculated the strength and the outcomes. Even if there is a peaceful resolution, Hizbollah would be strengthened. It wouldn't surprise anyone if they get new recruits and come out as victors.

Mad Mac, Tell us why only Israel and the Bush adminstration are right? It is the world against these two nations.

[DawladSade]

[quote="MAD MAC"]Typical Somali, can't answer the question but attacks the individual attacker.[/quote]

Mad Yahuud from your "character" here you don't know what the typical somali is and visitin somalia for a few months as an american soldier durin one of its darkest moments hardly classifies you as "knowin" the somali psyche or what the typical somali so YOU answer my question.

wat in this phuckin world is wrong with your questions? you asked them right? then i phuckin expect you to answer that question better then anyone. wat is wrong with your questions??

i'll even take the time and quote it for you..here it is:



[quote]

Sade
When Hamas and Al Jihad were sending suicide bombers into Israel and blowing up people at bus stops and in restaraunts, were you aggrieved and outraged? Or did you say "Well, that's bad, but it's the Israelis own fault."?

Let me ask you something, if you were Omert, and the rocket attacks were striking your cities, how would you react?
[/quote]


since you seem to bask in your ignorance i will also ask a question along that enhances your ability to understand where i'm going.

were the suicide bombins a cause or an effect?

were the rocket attacks on israel a cause or an effect??