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Postby TarraQ » Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:22 pm

Only about 5% of somalis are violent, the rest of us are peace loving people mad mac.

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Postby Steeler [Crawler2] » Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:24 pm

Oh, well in that case Taraq, we'd only have about 125 million Somalis with high tech weapons pillaging the earth. What a relief.

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Postby Alluring » Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:25 pm

[quote="MAD MAC"]Oh, well in that case Taraq, we'd only have about 125 million Somalis with high tech weapons pillaging the earth. What a relief.[/quote]

So that picture of you on Somalinet, the "fake" solider?

What do you men in uniforms do anyway? Oh, I forgot. NOTHING.

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Postby Steeler [Crawler2] » Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:30 pm

I was socialing, can't you see?

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Postby TarraQ » Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:34 pm

How did you work out 5% of 250 to be 125 Laughing ? I will use a calculator to see if thats correct.

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Postby Steeler [Crawler2] » Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:37 pm

I could of swore it said 50%. Clearly you're numbers are way off. 5%??? how do you think Somalis got their reputation as the worlds leading psychos with only 5%?

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Postby TarraQ » Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:47 pm

Mad Mac,
I beleive right now Americans have a reputation as the world's leading psychos, invading other people's countries and beating the sh.tt out of innoccent women and children that have done nothing to them whatsover Laughing Laughing. Talk about psychos. And Iam sure the Americans who are responsible for this are abt or less than 5% of the American population, although they have the support of their people. Atleast somalis fight over stupid things like tribalism or land and they dont export their stupidities to other countries Laughing .
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Postby Aiman » Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:48 pm

Bismillah,


“O you who believe! If a Faasiq (liar — evil person) comes to you with any news, verify it, lest you should harm people in ignorance, and afterwards you become regretful for what you have done”

[al-Hujuraat 49:6]

The Lawgiver issued a stern warning against passing on all that one hears. It was narrated that Hafs ibn ‘Aasim said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “It is enough lying for a man to speak of everything that he hears.” Narrated by Muslim in al-Muqaddimah, 6; Saheeh al-Jaami, 4482.

It was narrated from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “It is enough sin for a man to speak of everything that he hears.” Al-Silsilah al-Saheehah, 2025.

Al-Nawawi said: Usually a person hears truth and lies, so if he speaks of everything that he hears, he is lying by telling of things that did not happen, and lying by speaking of something other than the way it happened; and he does not have to do that deliberately (in order to be regarded as telling lies).

It was narrated that al-Mugheerah ibn Shu’bah said: The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Allaah has forbidden you to disobey your mothers, to bury your daughters alive, to not pay the rights of others and to beg from others. And He dislikes gossip for you, asking too many questions, and wasting money.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 2231.

Al-Haafiz ibn Hajar said:

With regard to the words ‘and He dislikes gossip [qeela wa qaala – lit. it was said and he said] for you’ al-Muhibb al-Tabari said, there are three points of view as to the meaning of this hadeeth:

1 – That it indicates that it is makrooh (disliked) to speak too much, because it leads to mistakes.

2 – That it refers to wanting to pass on what people say and looking for that in order to tell others of it, so that one can say, “So and so said such and such, and Such and such was said…” The prohibition on this is either a rebuke for doing too much of it or it refers to a particular type of talk, which the person spoken of dislikes to have mentioned.

3 – That it refers to narrating differences of opinion concerning religious matters, such as saying, “This one said such and such and that one said such and such.” The reason why this is disliked is that speaking of such matters may lead to mistakes. This applies especially to those who transmit such views without verifying them, merely imitating those whom they hear without exercising any caution. I say: this is supported by the saheeh hadeeth, “It is enough sin for a man to speak of everything that he hears.” (narrated by Muslim).

It was narrated that Abu Qalaabah said: Abu Mas’ood said to Abu ‘Abd-Allaah, or Abu ‘Abd-Allaah said to Abu Mas’ood: What did you hear the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say about saying “they say…”?

He said: I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: “How bad it is for a man to keep saying, ‘They say…’. ” al-Silsilah al-Saheehah, 866.

Al-‘Azeemabaadi said: This means, it is a bad way to reach one’s objective, by saying, ‘they say…’. Saying ‘they say…’ is akin to conjecture, i.e., the worst habit of a man is to use the phrase ‘they say’ to serve his purposes, so he tells of something, merely repeating what others have said without verifying it, and thus he transmits lies … this was the view of al-Manaawi.

Hence our righteous forebears were keen to establish proof and were wary of rumours.

‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “Beware of fitnah, for a word at the time of fitnah could be as devastating as the sword.”

History shows us the danger of rumours when they spread among the ummah. There follow some examples of that:

1 – When the Sahaabah migrated from Makkah to Ethiopia, they were safe, but then a rumour spread that the kuffaar of Quraysh in Makkah had become Muslims, so some of the Sahaabah left Ethiopia and travelled until they reached Makkah, where they found that the report was not true, and they met with persecution at the hands of Quraysh. All of that happened because of rumours.

2 – During the Battle of Uhud, when Mus’ab ibn ‘Umayr was killed, there was a rumour that it was the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) who had been killed, so the army of Islam withdrew because of a rumour, and some of them fled to Madeenah and some stopped fighting.

3 – There was the rumour of the slander incident (al-ifk), when the pure and innocent ‘Aa’ishah was accused of immoral conduct, which led to the distress felt by the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and the Muslims with him. All of that was because of rumours.

So what is the proper sharÂ’i method of dealing with news?

There are ways of dealing with news which we will look at in brief:

1 – Deliberation

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Deliberation is from Allaah and haste is from the Shaytaan.” Al-Silsilah al-Saheehah, 1795.

The one who deliberates may meet some of his needs whilst the one who is hasty may slip.

2 – Verifying news

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“O you who believe! If a Faasiq (liar — evil person) comes to you with any news, verify it, lest you should harm people in ignorance, and afterwards you become regretful for what you have done”

[al-Hujuraat 49:6]

The reason why this verse was revealed:

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) sent al-Waleed ibn ‘Uqbah ibn Abi Mu’eet to Banu al-Mustaliq, to collect the zakaah from them. When news of that reached them they rejoiced, and they came out to meet the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). When al-Waleed heard that they had come out to meet him, he went back to the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and said, “O Messenger of Allaah, Banu al-Mustaliq have withheld the zakaah.”

The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) became very angry at that, and whilst he was thinking of launching a campaign against them, the delegation came to him and said, “O Messenger of Allaah, we were told that your envoy returned after coming only half way, and we were afraid that he came back because he received a message from you saying that you were angry with us. We seek refuge with Allaah from the anger of Allaah and the anger of His Messenger.”

Then Allaah excused them in His Book and revealed the words (interpretation of the meaning):

“O you who believe! If a Faasiq (liar — evil person) comes to you with any news, verify it, lest you should harm people in ignorance, and afterwards you become regretful for what you have done”

[al-Hujuraat 49:6]

See: al-Silsilah al-Saheehah, 3085.

What is meant by verifying is making the effort to find out the truth of the matter, so as to establish whether this can be proven or not.

Verifying means making certain of the truth of the report and its circumstances.

Al-Hasan al-Basri said: “The believer reserves judgement until the matter is proven.”

Finally: we advise everyone to verify matters and not to rush to pass on news until they are sure that it is true, even if the news is good news, because if it becomes apparent that the one who passed it on is mistaken, he will lose credibility before the peopleÂ… and anyone who bears a grudge towards him will use it against him. May Allaah help us all to do that which He loves and which pleases Him.

And Allaah knows best.

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Cabdi Kherydiid and his ilk need to read the above Fatwa brought to you by the Makamada based Al Muqdisho.


Wa Billaahi Towfiiq

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Postby Caana-Nuug » Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:00 pm

Laughing Laughing

Aiman,

Qeybdiid is a desparate man, he was defeated & is clinging on to survival. Weli ma uusan quusanin, but when they shoot out his brains, wuu quusan lahaa, they need to get over with killing this dumb mooryaan.

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Postby Steeler [Crawler2] » Fri Aug 25, 2006 3:24 am

Aiman
Are you going to cut and paste the entire focking Qur'an?

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Postby Nolol cusub » Sun Nov 05, 2006 6:08 pm

"To expect a sacad person to fight alongside Ethiopia and Majeerteen militias is just asking too much in my opinion."


Laughing


This is true in the long run.


In the short run, there is something else THAT IS HAPPENING IN THE REGION that "Mr. eyes only" may have missed.



Casharo badan baa laga helay xiriirkii la yaabka lahaa ee ka dhaxeeyay Habargidir iyo ciidamada UNISOM. Laughing Laughing Laughing



Wax kasta faa'ido markaad ka heleyso HORE USII DIIRO. Plus Maxkamadaha waa gaajo, Laughing




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If my understanding of Mr. Aweys serves me well, I believe Maxkamadaha will stay out of Mudug for several years until they defeat Baydhaba and consolidate their power.(That is if they master their Military hardware)


Mudug will also be different: No Qaybdiid, Mudug for democratic Sacad.




Then, later we can talk about what you people have. Laughing

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Postby Steeler [Crawler2] » Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:28 am

Abdi
Thanks for the info.

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Postby galia » Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:38 am

People sacads will never fight alongside Mj and ethiopia, that's asking too much from sacad soldiers and qeybdid is lossing support from sacad by welcoming Mj and ethiopians into Galmugdud (sacad homeland).

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Postby AbdiWahab252 » Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:39 am

galia aka generaalka Laughing


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