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Postby Grant » Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:23 am

My lady Basra,

I think you are seriously confused.

In the first place I am a Deist, not an atheist. I have gotten into my Mormon heritage and general religious background elsewhere on this board.

In the second place, that is my actual picture as my avatar and I am not Jewish. My abtiris goes back to the 1300's, and there are no Jewish names in it.

In the third place, I believe I understood your quote quite well: Islam says no sex before marriage, which leads to an increased divorce rate. I was merely pointing to the increased divorce rate.

I do not need Sir Luggoyo's approval. He was not in Jilib when I was there and I thought I made that point.

What I do regognize is that my observations are strictly anecdotal. They relate only to the families that I lived and worked with at one location during one period in time. I don't think anybody has an accurate feel for the actual marriage and divorce statistics among Somalis any more than there are accurate population figures.

I would point out that Mormons also forbid sex before marriage. As far as I am aware there were no divorces in my father's family before my parents' gereration, in which one person out of six was divorced twice. In my generation, two of thirteen women and six of eight men have been divorced at least once. I do not have a better explanation for this than to say it has followed the general trend of an increased divorce rate in the West.

I don't have a clue where you came up with the 50%-80% figures, but they don't seem unreasonable. AbdiWahab thought he saw a pattern or he would not have opened this thread. Clearly, I have no basis at all for anything currently going on in the diaspora, but my experiences in Somalia leave me unsurprised at the topic.

I think you are just overly sensitive that I used your quote to support my position. Razz

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Postby eyes-only » Sat Sep 09, 2006 12:36 pm

Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing @ "My abtiris goes back to the 1300's, and there are no Jewish names in it".


You sound so Somali right there. I'm starting to think you are Somali. By the way, what clans live in Jilib?

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Postby Grant » Sat Sep 09, 2006 3:01 pm

Eyes-only,

The mayor of Jilib and the farmers in the surrounding area were Gosha. The clans I met in town were Hawiye (subclans I never knew), MJ and Barawanii. But they were working for the government and were not natives. I understood there were Darood in Kismayu and the District Commissioner, housed in Jilib, was from one of the northern clans.

We avoided qabiil talk at that time. I only rarely knew the clans of the people I was talking to.

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Postby COSTA » Sat Sep 09, 2006 3:19 pm

Grant the majority in the province are BANTUS but
they are farmers thats why they dont live in Jilib

About Kismayo dont mention the clans you used to see there cause some sick ppl will take after you Laughing

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Postby CrazySommies » Sat Sep 09, 2006 3:20 pm

[quote]eyes,,, its probably because folks fall into jaceel to easily and marry too quickly. [/quote]

Its true this. Most of them confuse "lust" with love. lust always happens to men but its medicine is standing outside the house of the girl just to get a glimpse of her from the windows. Not to bl0ody ask her for marriage Laughing Laughing Laughing


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