WILL ETHIOPIA ATTACK?

[Galol]

Mels Zenawi, a man I respect deeply for his orderly takeover of Ethiopia and his courageous attempt at improving its polity and economics now seems hellbent on attacking the Wadaads in Somalia.

The crazies in Mog goaded him no doubt with their almost daily shrieks of Jihad and war. But they are political infantiles and he knows it. Why fall for it? Perhaps he has his own agenda including shifting attention from his own problems at home by highlighting and I quote "a clear and present danger"?

So will he attack? and if he does where will it lead to? Will this be his Iraq?

[DerbiJiiF]

Given you are not "somali", it is somali's business whether he attacks or not.

Again and one more time, it is somali's business. Foreigns like you should only observe.

Derbi,

[Gacalisa]

Yes I think we wants to, but I dont think he will the actuall attempt.

the U.S is thinking of aidiing him, so he has a good chance in doing so.

[Cilmiile]

they want to create chaos in the south and then take advantage of the unrest to annex the northwest corridor.

Berbera = The long sought Ethiopian access to the sea.

[Galol]

Cilmiile

"creating chaos"?

I almost laughed. I am starting to worry that the dreaded dhulos `dhoohanaan', a kind of very unique dhulos madness, is catching up with you in your old age. To the substantive point. I dont think this has anything to do with Berbera or access to sea. If he wants access he can have it: we Somalilanders will welcome him with open arms as long as he pays his taxes. Trade and business and friendship is welcome. Invasion is not.

[Cilmiile]

Galool,

And you are suffering from Isaaq's renowned haste and lack of foresight.

Ethiopia dont want to have access at the sufferance of Somalis. They want to take it by force.

Eritrean ports were closer and they had full access. The reason they attacked Eritrea and lost thousands of soldiers and millions of dollars was because after 6 years they realized their horrible strategic mistake of handing over Eritrea fully. Smart thing would have been to carve out a small strip of land to the east of Assab.

Ethiopians know Somalis are divided horribly along tribal lines. They were willing to adopt a wait and see attitude until all the educated people leave Somalia; to stoke up rivalries within and between the autonomous regions; until Somalia becomes so weak that they march in unopposed.

And in the meantime they seed ethnic Ethiopians in the region they were most interested in: Isaaqland.

The Ethiopians panicked because they realized that the wadaads might bring about the unthinkable: United Somalia.

That is why they are gonna attack them and deal death and destruction in the south and set the clock back to the active civil war.

[KUN-DILE]

^^Check this fool out

If there is any Habashi present in any Somali soil with significant numbers it is Bosaaso. But in Somaliland? If you are calling the Oromo and the Cagdheers Ethiopians, then yes you are right there are lots of Oromos who work in the farms and there are lots of Cagdheer beggars as well.


Anyways it would be simplistic if you think that is what is going on. It ain't. All the Tigre midget want is to create wars no matter where but the ultimate goal is to kill as many of his enemies both inside and outside. These include the thousands of Amhara students that he forcefully conscriped into the armed forces and the Cagdheers and Oromos as well as other Somalis... no matter how many die, it is good for him and his tiny Tigre tribe. He is as happy either way if there are 500,000 Ethiopians die or if 500,000 Somalis die.

This is a comment an Amhara former soldier posted on YouTube video showing the aftermath of the Eritrea war... he says:

"As a an Ethiopian (Amhara) soldier who fought in this war, I can tell you the reason why we lost such an enormous amount of soldiers in the two year border war, it was due to our tactic(s). We used what's called the "human wave" tactic upon Eritrean trenches, this allowed many of our good Ethiopian children to be picked appart by Eritrean machine guns and snipers, while we flooded their positions with human bodies.
"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQyRJpo6 ... ed&search=

The next human-wave that Midget meles will be using is the Dooros especialy Col. Yey's tribe. And guess what? Col. Yey has recruited not his own tribe, but your clan in their thousands. You should be most worried of what is going on.

[Cilmiile]

Kud Dile,

There are oromo, there are Ogaadeen, there are tigre and Amhara in Somaliland by the thousands. Reer Hargeysa have become conversant in Amharic and Tigrinya for Alah's sake. And you have a 3 hour broadcast on Radio Hargeysa.

And all the arguments you have put forward support my thesis, not detract from it.

He will sow discord in Somalia, kill Amhara, Somalis, Oromo in the process ... all the better.

And in the fullness of time He will annex Northwest Somalia.

Ethiopians are very smart, very patient strategic thinkers.

Look at the way Haile Selasie destroyed Eritrea and gobbled it up in 61. It took him 10 years of painfully slow destruction of Eritrean institutions until they were ripe for the picking.

Do Somalis have the tenacity, discipline and unity of the Eritreans?

Dont think so.

As for Dhulbahante being in Cabdilaahi Yuusuf's army... well he is our Harti brother and he will get our support if he needs it.

And if Dhulbahante are with him, he has nothing to worry about because when it comes to dealing death, no one does it better than us.

Mar haddii tacshiiradi dhacdoo taag yaruhu liico
Ma nin loo tudhaan ahay anay tayda noqotaaye

[fagash_killer]

meles zenawi is a dead man walking

[Cilmiile]

Faqash killer

Somalis are dead men walking

Meles dont care if he loses 1 million maxaysato

But they will be killing, raping and pillaging Somalia before they die.

Somali lack of discipline and patience will be their undoing once more. Same as 1977.

[Galol]

Cilmiile

You may or may not be a dhoohane Dhulos but you are certainly Somali: The believe in ludicrous conspiracy theories is a copper-bottomed proof of that. Why would Ethiopia want to take by force what it can get without war? And how on earth does anyone add to our clan division when it forms part of our very cultural being?

And what about this crazy idea that Ethiopia is somehow `planting' people in Somaliland to take it over stealthily?

You reminded me a famous story. When your uncle Barre was in power he held a milatary manouvre with American troops in Berbera and Guban. The story goes an American officer chatted with his Somali counterpart saying " hey buddy why are you guys holding this exercise"? The Somali responded " to defend our country against any invader who wants to attack it"

The American looked around the hellish Guban Plains and said " who on earth would want to invade this buddy"?

[fagash_killer]

[quote="Cilmiile"]Faqash killer

Somalis are dead men walking

Meles dont care if he loses 1 million maxaysato

But they will be killing, raping and pillaging Somalia before they die.

Somali lack of discipline and patience will be their undoing once more. Same as 1977.[/quote]

meles zenawi is stupid and arrogant he should know that if he attacks somalia so shall those eritireans,amxaaro and oromos and somalis in ethopia and they could surround his goverment and close him in. this will give the oppurtinity for those amxaaro and oromos who are part of his army to flee and surrender to the onlf and the uic and eritirea ore to take arms against zenawis regime.the best defence is the offence.and the patriotic somalis know what im talking about

[KUN-DILE]

Candhoole
If you seriuosly think why the midget is running around the bush and creating all these wars, is to ultimately annex Somaliland... then one wonders, what is preventing him from annexing Somaliland today? It is not as there is no enough discord between the Somalis is it?

Your "annexation" theory is a lame duck. Only a Qurjiile would entertain such a ludicrust thing.

The more probable theory is the old one which supports the break - up of the old failed state of Somalia. In this case, as a Somalilanders I have no problems whatsoever. But even if that is the more probable theory, I still oppose any harm done by the Xabashi to the Somalis whether its the ICU or any other government in southern Somalia. You can not say that in your uncle Yey's case who would rather sleep with the devil if it would serve his clan's interests. What a shame. It ain't like the Xabashis will rule for him in Mogadishu? The old farth's days are numbered.

[Galol]

"If there is any Habashi present in any Somali soil with significant numbers it is Bosaaso."

Hear hear. And you know what they do to them? The Dhabayaco take all their money the born thieves that they are; put them in boats with more holes than a sieve and dump them in the sea.


But in Somaliland? If you are calling the Oromo and the Cagdheers Ethiopians, then yes you are right there are lots of Oromos who work in the farms and there are lots of Cagdheer beggars as well.

Our kindness to immigrants is far beyond the understanding of these people. The Oromos are welcome although I am not so sure about Cagdheers anymore. Afterall the fockers sided with Afweyne last time we welcomed them.

[Cilmiile]

galool


sayid maxamed said about your Iidoor:

waxba inuusan garanayninoo waalan yahay weeye


The questions you raise about the desolate and economically backward horn are valid. But nevertheles since the 40s it has been the scene of superpower wrangling and intrigue.

The Americans used to spend 60% of their African milatary and economic assistance on Ethiopia, and by necessity the soviets gravitated to Somalia and spent lavishly there. For what purpose?

I have been recently reading a book on Ethiopia by Richard Pankhurst, Ethiopia expert, and he speculates on that very point and comes up with all the arguments put forward by the experts and none of them are satisfactory in hindsight.

When it comes to statecraft we are too ignorant to understand the reasoning and thought processes of those in power.

Or they are the moron and we are the sensible ones!

The points you raise are valid, but I will answer your question with a question.

What the hell were Ethiopians and Eritreans upto when they slaughtered 70,000 of their people? To capture that shyt little town Badme? Have u seen how desolate and inhospitable it is?

Or was Meles after the Sea corridor I wrote of earlier? And if so, why would he not launch another campaign to secure himself a seaport now that Eritrean waters are forever beyond his reach?