Remove two subclans from somalia and we will get peace

[muslim-man]

Moguul,

You do have some valid points in your argument, but remember that during the UIC's 6 month rule, many daarood properties were returned to their original owners. But when you've men like Aideed Jr. & M. Dheere to name a few running a "government" how can their be any justice?

[muslim-man]

[quote="PragmaticGal"]

So you realize it was inevitable.[/quote]

It seemed too good to be true, so many changes in such a short amount of time. I guess it was bound to end, but then again who knows?

[Moguul21]

Brother Muslim man

I really like your honest, you are absuletly right, the other hand who are all this worlords? 97% are hawiye did you ever asked your self why? like a said they are living illegal life, its like telling deceased Escobar give up your drug trafficing business, the other Hand I did support honest Sheikh like Sheikh Ahmed but the thiefs like Aweys, ina boy and Indho cadde which are no different then the warlords where running the show, did you know when Sheikh Ahmed said let's give back Darod land and properties Indho cadde and Aweys refused to do so? dont tell me all ICU members where honest like Sheikh shariif sheikh ahmed.

[galia]

We now demand that the TFG goverment be dissolved and the hawiya nation be given independence, we no longer seek union or brotherhood with other nations (darood nor issac), people must understand that before 1960 hawiya had nothing to do with darood or isaac.

I tried to tell the ICU to forget the darood or isaac they will just cause problems for hawiya. Am sure that other hawiya's as time goes by will like my ideas more and more.

Moguul21 the icu was a hawiya organisation that was seeking to have peace and equality with daroods, they even chased away my sacad cousins in xamar last summer and forced evictions on us they held darood properties, they even signalled that they welcomed and would accept Yusuf as president of somalia, lol.

Look how the icu embrassed themselves walahi they ceyrs must be the joke of somalia thinking that killing chasing their own Haber Gider cousins (sacads) out of Mogdishio will bring them in favour with the daroods.

We the sacads had reasons for fighting the ICU since they chased us out of xamar and disgraced us in front of the other hawiya clans but what reason do daroods have for fighting the icu that were willing to be fair and friendly to them.

Ceyr please move out of the way, you have wasted your money, men, weapons on the ICU campiagn, now with sacad wealth and weapons still intact it is sacads turn to lead Haber Gider, we shall show ceyr and the rest of hawiya to deal with daroods and that's only with the sword, that's the only thing they understand

[Moguul21]

Sheikh sharif sheikh ahmed wuxuu fashil may maaliintuu yiri dowlada ku meelgaarka ah Jihaad ha lagu qaado.....

That is the history of ICU.

[Moguul21]

Galia,

To answer your question truthfully the only Darod who fought were on the ICU side, Melez and his Tigrey fighters fought with ICU also known as CAYR, don't blame us blame Sanawi.

[muslim-man]

Moguul,

Sxb. the UIC had its flaws, but it did attempt to relieve the people of Mogadishu many problems such as isbaarooyin, injustice, thugery, etc. Nevertheless, they made many plunders example: by rushing to other regions while Banadir needed more work and their war rethoric against Ethiopia.

D'you know that some people are still residing in the same houses they looted 16 years ago? So, of course such people will never want any peace or stability. I heard that many Hawiye residents resented the UIC.

I can never support the TFG, because the same men who plundered Somalia for a decade are now wearing suits & calling themselves ministers. It's like the Italian mafia in NYC being in charge of the NYPD, how does that work?

[Moguul21]

Somebody told the other day darod lady here in twin cities called her teenage son in mogadishu, she heard he was member of shabaab, and went to war against TFG, she asked him hooyo are you safe did you got shot? he said mom I'm fine all my family (Hawiye) are ok the only people got killed are your family meaning all the young men who died fighting for indha cadde war were Ogaadeen, its very sad story but is the truth.

[galia]

Moguul21 do u know the title that us sacads aquired during the great general farah aidid, that title was the "Butcher of darood". Theres no single clan either be hawiya or isaac that can match our record for the new of daroods we have tortured, killed, disgraced, beaten all over somalia.

One of our top warlords colonel abdiqeybdid who himself wiped out an entire Mj village walks around even comes face to face to the Mj president and you know what their ain't shiit that mj nor any other darood can do abt it.

[Alluring]

You think it is that EASY to get rid of MJ's...think again.

[Ashlee~]

[quote="muslim-man"]Moguul,

You do have some valid points in your argument, but remember that during the UIC's 6 month rule, many daarood properties were returned to their original owners. But when you've men like Aideed Jr. & M. Dheere to name a few running a "government" how can their be any justice?[/quote]

Mahamed dheere is no longer a warlord. No a governor of Shabelleha dheexe. He is finito As to Aideed Jr. He gave up his weapons. He is working with the government. He represents his clan. Unless the sacad ask for his replacement, then you are just harping on a mute point sxb. THE TFG IS HERE TO STAY

[Moguul21]

Galia,

So you are glad that your uncle aidid and geybdid killed so many Darod?

See the proplem is how can we live peacefully next to each other when you have that type of inhuman mentality?

Many people disagree with me when I tell them as long as habergidir excist there will be no peace in Somalia.

[Ashlee~]

Lets remove cabsiiye ceyr

[muslim-man]

UB,

I hope you don't honestly believe these thugs who call themselves TFG have any interest in running a decent government?

They'd 14 years to show their potential and 2 years as the TFG to act like a government, why haven't they done any good for the Somali people?

Let's compare their history & accomplishments with that of the UIC.

[galia]

I just wana say Mj best watch their steps carefully, since we signed that peace treaty in 1995 you people somehow feel immune, walahi not even the ethiopians would save u motherfcukers if u start shiiiiiit with us, we will easily burn puntland to the ground, all it takes is 1600 sacad men to invade your petty towns known as puntland.

I think the ethiopians would love the idea of sacads burning puntland to the ground don't u think?