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PreIslamic Somali Religion: Worship of Waaq & Rah

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PreIslamic Somali Religion: Worship of Waaq & Rah

Postby AbdiWahab252 » Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:44 pm

PreIslam Somalis worshipped several Gods:

Egyptian Gods by way of the Cushitic Origins:

Rah - Sun God
Horous - The Black Headed God
Nephdeys
Bes

Canaanite God:

BAAL

It is believed pre-Islamic Somalis worshipped a God that symbolized the crow.

"Waaq," in the Somali language, is the sound of the crow, which according to legend was an object of worship among ancient Somalis. In fact, the word meaning "prayer" in Somali, tuko, is similar to the word for crow, tuke. There are places in Somalia called Caabudwaaq and Ceelwaaq, which denote "worshiping Waaq" and "the well of Waaq" respectively.

Waaq (also Waq or Waaqa) is the name of God in the traditional Oromo and Somali religions of East Africa.

Somalis also have a similar relationship with the ancient Egyptian gods found through the Somali language. Present linguistic evidence showed at least five of ancient Egypt’s gods came from or had obvious links with the country they at times called ‘The Land of the Gods’. For instance, the supreme sun god, RA’ (also alternatively called RA and RE) occurs as a component of a number of culturally-important Somali words. The all-important ritual word for slaughter, GOWRAC, clearly indicates the sun god was as old as the language itself. GOWRAC literally meant ‘cut for RAC’. The Oromo word for the same ritual was GORA’ with a Hamzah substituted for the more difficult to pronounce C (’). RA was the only god Somali shared with other Eastern Cushitic branch with the exception of Waq which it also shares with the Oromo. Other Somali words which also contained the supreme sun god GARAC (an illegitimate child), ARRAWEELO (AR-RA-WEELO), the legendary pagan queen who castrated a whole generation of the Somali menfolk. ARRAWEELO literally meant ‘The one who obeyed RA’. The Somali word for ‘wrong’ was GURRAC (GUR-RAC). GUR meant ‘the left hand’, which in most languages stood for ‘wrong’.

The two words GARRE (GAR-RE) and BARRE (BAR-RE) incorporated the third alias of the sun god, RE. Consequently, GARRE meant the same as GARAC – both meaning an illegitimate child. Hence the saying “GARRE GARAC MALE” – meaning the GARRE (a clan in the south) have no illegitimate child. It was an accepted tradition to this day among the clan that a newly-wed bride was immediately taken away by young herdsmen and could not be returned to her husband until she was pregnant. BARRE (BAR-RE) meant god’s rain. BAR means rain drops as in BARWAAQO (BAR-WAQ).

HOROUS, the second most important of ancient Egypt’s gods, also appears to have originated in the ‘Land of the gods’. The dark falcon deity (Somali ABOODI) still remains a much feared bird. It was believed to be particularly dangerous to newly-born babies and nursing mothers. A piece of the bird’s bones or its claw was traditionally tied around the infant as a protection against its harmful spells. In North-Eastern Somalia in particular, the male name HORUSE was given to a child of dark complexion. To protect themselves against the falcon’s evil eye, nursing mothers often carry a knife or a short stick of the WAGAR tree. Incidentally, the Egyptian pharaohs reportedly carried the same WAGAR stuff to the battlefield to ensure victory against the enemy.

OSIRIS, another of ancient Egypt’s gods who reportedly ruled the underworld after being killed by SET (Ed. Somali SED), was evidently a Greek distortion of ISIR and WASIIR in Somali. Today, Somalis sometimes refer to AB and ISIR in their denial of an accusation that was culturally horrendous. One usually says "I have neither AB nor ISIR for such an act" – meaning I have neither the genetic probability nor the cultural or religious orientation to commit such a horrendous act.

The pair WALCAN and WASIIR, now on their way to oblivion, were also used in a similar but slightly varying context. In modern Somali, however, ISIR was commonly used as a female name.

NEPHDEYS and BES, two less prominent ancient Egyptian gods, also appear to have some affinity with the Somali language. While NAF in Somali meant ‘soul’, NEF meant ‘breath’. Hence NEPHDEYS literally would mean ‘The one who releases breath – a function more or less attributed to the ancient god. BES in Somali meant ‘One who was in his or her deathbed’ – also a function the latter god was associated with.

The ancient Cananite god, PAL, was still alive in Somali in the same sense but probably in only two words – UUR-KU-BAALE-LE and YABAAL. The rarely used UUR-KU-BAAL-LE meant ‘One who has BAL in him’. One would usually ask: “How do you expect me to know your intentions? Do you think I have BAAL in me?” In essence, this meant only one who had BAAL in him could foretell the hidden or the unknown. YABAAL, possibly an alternative name for BAAL, was usually associated with the voice, of an invisible being that told one what to do or not to do in time of crisis in the wilderness.

Finally, the ancient Mayan Sea god, MANYA, simply meant sea in the Somali dialect spoken in the old quarters of Mogadishu.

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Postby xayraan kale » Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:46 pm

R U A MOORYAN??????????

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Postby EMINEM. » Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:47 pm

he is Owtabe Laughing


seriously man you learn new qabiil everyday Lmao

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Postby xayraan kale » Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:48 pm

[quote="EMINEM."]he is Owtabe Laughing


seriously man you learn new qabiil everyday Lmao[/quote]

SHEEKASH????? U MEAN AW-QUDUB

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Postby EMINEM. » Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:50 pm

i heard the entire population owrtable is about 29 Laughing

is this statement above true or what ? and where do u guys live in somalia ?

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Postby xayraan kale » Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:51 pm

[quote="EMINEM."]i heard the entire population owrtable is about 29 Laughing

is this statement tueor what ? and where do u guys live in somalia ?[/quote]

BIATCH DON'T DISS MY FAMZ IIGHT HUTU Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

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Postby EMINEM. » Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:52 pm

OWRTABLE Laughing Laughing

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Postby EMINEM. » Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:59 pm

Abdiwahab252

sorry for the hijack of the topic sxb

what a fascinating find

what i am trying to understand is if we worshipped other religions b4 what makes us think that Islam is the correct religion eventhough arabs brough it to us centuries ego

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Postby AbdiWahab252 » Mon Jan 29, 2007 9:11 pm

EMINEM:

It was a gradual process over time. There are still some adherents to the old religions among certain peoples bordering Somali clans such as the Rendiile (Rer Diinle), Boran, Oromos, and other clans.

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Postby xayraan kale » Mon Jan 29, 2007 9:13 pm

Hawiye are Pagans they were converted by Sheekh Abdirahman(Darood) bin Is'maciil Al Jaberti

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Postby EMINEM. » Mon Jan 29, 2007 9:14 pm

Xayawaan kale Laughing Laughing

nice name

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Postby EMINEM. » Mon Jan 29, 2007 9:17 pm

XAYAWAAN

sorry to burst you bubble but darood arent arabs so stop claims some fat arab dude who came to somalia once to molest little girls

if darood were arabs siyaab barre would'nt looklike Mugabe Laughing
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Postby xayraan kale » Mon Jan 29, 2007 9:18 pm

[quote="EMINEM."]Xayawaan kale Laughing Laughing

nice name[/quote]

go suck on abdiwahad's nutts u hutu wecal

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Postby EMINEM. » Mon Jan 29, 2007 9:21 pm

^^ weak comeback Laughing

for the record you are black

marehan = siyaad barre = HUTU Laughing

now get of ma nuttz

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Postby xayraan kale » Mon Jan 29, 2007 9:23 pm

[quote="EMINEM."]^^ weak comeback Laughing

for the record you are black

marehan = siyaad barre = HUTU Laughing

now get of ma nuttz[/quote]

i'm black but i know where my GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GRANFATHA IS BURIED WAT BOUT UR HAWIYE IRRIR WECAL FATHER???????? Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing


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