Welcome to SomaliNet Forums, a friendly and gigantic Somali centric active community. Login to hide this block

You are currently viewing this page as a guest. By joining our community you will have the ability to post topics, ask questions, educate others, use the advanced search, subscribe to threads and access many, many other features. Registration is quick, simple and absolutely free. Join SomaliNet forums today! Please note that registered members with over 50 posts see no ads whatsoever! Are you new to SomaliNet? These forums with millions of posts are just one section of a much larger site. Just visit the front page and use the top links to explore deep into SomaliNet oasis, Somali singles, Somali business directory, Somali job bank and much more. Click here to login. If you need to reset your password, click here. If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?

Daily chitchat.

Moderators: Moderators, Junior Moderators

Forum rules
This General Forum is for general discussions from daily chitchat to more serious discussions among Somalinet Forums members. Please do not use it as your Personal Message center (PM). If you want to contact a particular person or a group of people, please use the PM feature. If you want to contact the moderators, pls PM them. If you insist leaving a public message for the mods or other members, it will be deleted.
OUR SPONSOR: LOGIN TO HIDE
Warya_dude
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 1509
Joined: Sat Apr 24, 2004 7:00 pm
Location: <--Bosaso--><-Bari->

Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?

Postby Warya_dude » Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:05 pm

All sources say somalia is 85% 'somali' this including the rahanweyn/digil mirifle/maay-maay or whatever they call them self.

-they speak a different language
-they are farmers and so were their ancestors for thousands of years SOMALIS are NOMADS
-their custom is different they have alot of witchcraft in their culture still

in countries like ethiopia, eritrea sources say its filled with ethnic groups

but somalia is homogeneous? so why are these non-Somalis considered Somali?

Somalia is only 65% Somali (-15% Bantus and Arabs, -20% Rahanweyn) and not a homogeneous country....

sadeboi
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 11711
Joined: Wed Jun 02, 2004 7:00 pm
Location: Reer Siyaad Ugaas

Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?

Postby sadeboi » Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:08 pm

Somali waa DAROOD, dir hawiye iyo isaq

User avatar
J-EASY
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 3041
Joined: Wed Feb 02, 2005 4:25 pm
Location: IN DA HOOD

Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?

Postby J-EASY » Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:09 pm

U forgot to mention the Garre.....they have their own language which is a mixture of amharic iyo af oromo.

Lacageylacag
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 2123
Joined: Wed Aug 27, 2003 7:00 pm
Location: sharia enforcement agency, Tawheed controlled zone.

Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?

Postby Lacageylacag » Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:15 pm

Raxawayns are pure somalis.
Sab iyo samale. They are sab.
If Daroods who brought Ethios are still somali, what about Raxawayns in the bush fighting the occupier and his dabodhilif?
Where is Mukhtar Robow Abu Mansuur?

They are better somali.

Warya_dude
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 1509
Joined: Sat Apr 24, 2004 7:00 pm
Location: <--Bosaso--><-Bari->

Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?

Postby Warya_dude » Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:26 pm

In Eritrea and Ethiopia people who look exactly the same, dress the same, same religion but are different ethnic groups because of Language

like Tigrinya, Amhara, Amara, Tigre, Gurage are considered different ETHNIC GROUPS

but in Somalia Somalis and Sab people like rahanweyn, eeylaay, boon, garre who speak different cushitic language are lumped together and creating false ideas to the outside world Somalia is a homogeneous state....


Somalia is less then 65% Somali

If you take out Somaliland its 45% Somali MINORITY

If you take out Somaliland and Puntland, Konfuur is only 30% Somali MINORITY

Lacageylacag
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 2123
Joined: Wed Aug 27, 2003 7:00 pm
Location: sharia enforcement agency, Tawheed controlled zone.

Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?

Postby Lacageylacag » Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:28 pm

The only non somali I know are the Tigre Dabodhilif.

Warya_dude
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 1509
Joined: Sat Apr 24, 2004 7:00 pm
Location: <--Bosaso--><-Bari->

Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?

Postby Warya_dude » Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:32 pm

Others - 6%

* Tumaal, Madhibaan, Yibir, Eeyle, Yaxar, Ogeyslabe, Midgaan, Jareerweyne, Reer Xamar, Reer Baraawe and other Banaadiri clans.

* Digil - 3%
o Geledi, Tunni, Dabare, Jiiddo, Bagadi and Garre.

* Rahanweyn - 17%
o Leysaan, Xariin, Hadame, Eelaay, Jiroon, Luwaay, Geelidle, Boqorhore, Gasaargude, Hubeer, Yantaar and Jilible. All of these sub-clans belong to the larger Mirifle clan.

Darbaweyne
Posts: 88
Joined: Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:14 pm

Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?

Postby Darbaweyne » Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:40 pm

Midgaan and Yibir Boon Yaxar are ethnic Somali just not belonging to ''nasab'' somali clans

User avatar
galia
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 8785
Joined: Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:32 am
Location: 46464
Contact:

Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?

Postby galia » Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:53 pm

Warya_dude i would consider the rahanweyn/digil mirifle as somali but a lower caste somali since they have occasionally inter-married with Bantu's (Disgusting thing to do for any noble somali), however they are still loyal to their fellow superior somalis and are part of the larger somali society but of lower status.

However i would never view a Bantus nor an arap (Brawanai) as somali, they do not fit into the somali clan structure and are alien to our society.

Still i am surprised how huge the number of the Bantu ( former slaves from Malawi, Uganda, Tanzania) which i believe range from 500, 000 to 750, 000, which is a huge number.

Warya_dude
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 1509
Joined: Sat Apr 24, 2004 7:00 pm
Location: <--Bosaso--><-Bari->

Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?

Postby Warya_dude » Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:57 pm

If they are Somali, There is no difference between Oromos, Afars, Somalis, Hararis

Because its only language dividing them

If the rule doesn't apply for Sab people in Somalia then Oromos are also Somali.


Somali population is now 150 million considering all Cushites as Somali from now on Laughing

User avatar
COSTA
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 13762
Joined: Fri Jun 25, 2004 7:00 pm
Location: (Sapo)= Min arbetsgivare

Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?

Postby COSTA » Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:00 pm

THEY ARE SOMALIS OTHER WISE THEY WOULD`NT HAVE BEEN IN BAYDHABA AND BAKOOL

User avatar
DawladSade
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 13963
Joined: Fri Apr 22, 2005 9:38 pm
Location: Xornimo

Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?

Postby DawladSade » Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:01 pm

waa leftovers of the oromo and booran joogi jirtay, heck their language even souds more like oromo than anything else.

the onyl good raxanweyn is a dead raxanweyn

User avatar
galia
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 8785
Joined: Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:32 am
Location: 46464
Contact:

Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?

Postby galia » Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:02 pm

Warya_dude u r confusing me?

Am sure they somali, they are just considered of lower status because they farm rather then herd camels and they allowed themselves to interbreed with Bantus.

Warya_dude
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 1509
Joined: Sat Apr 24, 2004 7:00 pm
Location: <--Bosaso--><-Bari->

Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?

Postby Warya_dude » Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:05 pm

[quote="galia"]Warya_dude u r confusing me?

Am sure they somali, they are just considered of lower status because they farm rather then herd camels and they allowed themselves to interbreed with Bantus.[/quote]

Somali = Anybody who speaks the original Somali language and is native to the Horn of Africa.

Rahanweyn = Not Somali just like Oromos and Amhara they only live close to us thats the difference

If your only argument is they are of lower status this isnt valid to make them the same ethnic group as us.

User avatar
galia
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 8785
Joined: Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:32 am
Location: 46464
Contact:

Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?

Postby galia » Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:13 pm

Warya_dude actually they do speak somali but they have different words and a strong regional accent of somali they speak with.

Hey people lets leave these people in peace, i have no problem with them, infact they us Haber Gider alot in the cival war by killing alot of our enemies for us.

I would rather concentrate on killing ethiopians then victimizing on these poor people


OUR SPONSOR: LOGIN TO HIDE

Hello, Has your question been answered on this page? We hope yes. If not, you can start a new thread and post your question(s). It is free to join. You can also search our over a million pages (just scroll up and use our site-wide search box) or browse the forums.

  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Return to “General - General Discussions”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 7 guests