Puntland new frontier for Oil! [New]

[Cilmiile]

Ina Baxar

Somaliland's policy is to reach the British Somaliland borders. Laascaanood in their minds is part of Somaliland. That is why your president went there and nearly lost his life there. And that is why there is a Somaliland army at Adhicaddeeye.

That is all a product of African thinking.

A smart European would have made a very small, well trained army and police force and based it in every part of the country that is 100% pro Somaliland. He would consolidate his administration in that area and pour resources into education and infrastructure instead of paying for wars. After the country becomes wealthy and powerful, people would be petitioning and begging and pleading to be part of it instead of going to wars to add land.

That is the difference that I am trying to illustrate to you.

Foreigners can only meddle in your affairs to the extent that you allow them.

As for Puntland and the 250K, it is a government and if they are corrupt one way or the other they will go. But this very moment, economics is not my priority. There are bigger fish to fry. Proof positive that I am a true African, wouldnt you say

[Ina Baxar]

You're a true African coz you're into mind reading , hypothetical scenarios, gaal ass-licking , and revisionism{ rewriting history in Darood's favor}. :
Horta waxan ku weydiyay , inoomad sheegin cidaad tahay , ee bal ayaad darood ka tahay {MJ, or dhullo?}

[Cilmiile]

Nin ubaxa baarkaan ihiyo awrta Haashimahe
Abtirsiimadayduna waxay gashaa odayo waaweyne
Halkaan uga arooraana waa odayga Daaroode

[Ina Baxar]

Naw , war haddaa waa sidii ninki abtiga ii aha { Mataan cideed } sheegay weeye: Mj naaleeye dhalay baad tahay.

[gurey25]

I hate to say this this but Cilmiles last post strikes true.
I happen to agree with it.


There is no compelling reason for a Dhulbahante or warsangeli to willingly join Somaliland.
It is of equal advantage for them to choose Puntland or Somaliland, so they will choose puntland for clan reasons.


Now the Gadabursi on the other hand are supporters of Somaliland becuase of the strategic and economic advantages Somaliland gives them, they benefit more from somaliland than most Isaaq clans.


If we had a booming economy and a succesfull democracy, people vote with thier feet and they would first move to somaliland cities to live better lives, and they would be receptive to somaliland..


at the moment if i was dhulbahante i would be better off creating my own administration in competetion with Somaliland and Puntland

[Cilmiile]

Ina Baxar

Madaxweynaha Daarood baan ahay Somalinet. Haygu soo celcelin jilibyo hoose oon cidiba aqoonin

Gurey

Dhulbahante already tried to establish an administration prior to PUntland. Boocame1 and Boocame2. Both ended in deadlock and a major outbreak of Dhulbahante conflict was just narrowly averted.

It is a historic reality that 2 Dhulbahatnes will not agree on anything. Never mind the whole tribe. That is why they went to plan B and helped in the establishment of Puntland.

[Niya]

[quote="Cilmiile"]Nin ubaxa baarkaan ihiyo awrta Haashimahe
Abtirsiimadayduna waxay gashaa odayo waaweyne
Halkaan uga arooraana waa odayga Daaroode[/quote]

Allah ya cizak Cilmiile!

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Ina
If all the white people died from white mans disease, Africa would still be all focked up. You don't need any help.

Need I remind you that when the first Potuguese arrived in Mogadischu in the 16th century, they found the then tiny city riven into warring clan factions. With the exception of the very brief post colonial period, Somalia HAS NEVER had a central government.

[neocon_2007]

[quote="MAD MAC"]Ina
If all the white people died from white mans disease, Africa would still be all focked up. You don't need any help.

Need I remind you that when the first Potuguese arrived in Mogadischu in the 16th century, they found the then tiny city riven into warring clan factions. With the exception of the very brief post colonial period, Somalia HAS NEVER had a central government.[/quote]

Stop talking out of your a-s-s, little history you know keep it to yourself spare us the ignorance that defecates out of your orfice. The extermination of the melanin deficient beings as the likes of yourself and your mutant kind would bring world peace and rid the world of chaos.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Neocon
No, it wouldn't. Asians and Africans have been practicing warfare long before we showed up on the scene. The most advanced science and politics to date come from the Western World, certainly not from Africa. We are not why you are all focked up.

[gurey25]

MAC
what is wrong with practicing Warefare?

its a basic human charecteristic.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Gurey
You know, I am a professional soldier by trade. So on a fundamental level I am not averse to warfare. However, I would say in the Somali case that it has gotten out of control and become counter-productive.

[Manaking]

At the moment, Dhulbahante and Warsangali have more than their fair share of representatives in both houses (35 members in total) on top of the administrative and ministerial portfolios.
So you were not so wrong about positions and powersharing Mad Mac .
However there should be no doubt that majority of Sanaag and parts of Sool is inhabited by
dominant Issaq clans as Habar Younis and Habar Jeclo plus even special minority clans in Sanaag.

Sanaag population is Habar Younis and Habar Jeclo by majority and then follows Dhulbahante biggest of the two hartis with Warsangeli as smallest.
Caynabo , Buhoodle , and Xudun are shared districts between Dhulbahante and Habar Jeclo from west and north Habar Younis.

The Dhulbahante clan is also divided you have western somaliland pro subclans and then you have the eastern dhulbahante clans that also reside in Nugaal who are puntland supporters.
However while western dhulbahante are given their part of the cake in JSL .
Dhulbahante in Puntland suffer from the large majority of majerteenia and very agressive Ciise Mohmoud killing them for land greed and power hunger in Garowe and other towns.
Warsangeli are pro somaliland largely .
Not long ago a Somaliland army represented by Warsangeli chased out majerteenia puntland militisia out of Badhan . one majerteen died from falling of the truck.

From a geostrategic position combined with economic power .
Somaliland is by far the strongest .
We even have the largest diaspora to support outside , ( like the eritreeans in US and Europe sent money home to the military ).

Its all about politics .
The dumb puntland kids on the forum dont know even that their goverment does'nt claim all of Sanaag and Sool . They just cry for Harti regions wich are less then 38 % of Sool and Sanaag.
Sanaag and Sool is Somaliland territory .
And we wont give an inch away for embarassing clan reasons .

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... _01_12.png


And here is uncorrect amateur map from
http://www.puntlandgovt.com/map.php

Dont forget there is no such thing as region " Cayn "
Its the tip of Togdheer they are asking for the district of Caynaabo.

Not wonder Egal said fock off to Puntland asking to join Somaliland
Majeertenia is greedy

[Bagamundo]

Land distribution in Sanaag. Warsangeli, 60-65%. Isaaqs 30% and the rest is shared by dhuloos and midgo.

Sool,85 to 90% dhuloos degaan with few isaaq,hawiye and midgo sharing the remaining 10%.

Togdheer 85% isaaq the remaining 15% dhulbahante and others.

[Manaking]

Bagamundo read again my statistics .

Warsangeli is 60-65 % Sanaag ( why dont you say 99 % )
Dhulbahante 90 % Sool wrong again they are 184 % in Sool