What northern darood clans was behind genocide of Issaq ?

[Manaking]

Officially it was Somalias President Barre who ordered and stood responsible for the genocide of the northern Issaq clans of then the united Somalia .

But excactly what clans were doing the dirty work and providing soldiers .
I have heard several versions from Hawiya soldiers or Harti darood behind it .

Was it Dhulbahante and Majerteen
Or was it Majerteen and Hawiya

[gurey25]

The majority of the Army in the north were hawiye and Ogadeen.

[Manaking]

What share did Dhulbahante and Majerteen have in the genocide of Issaq

[gurey25]

I do not dwell on the misfortunes of the past, i suggest you not do too.

look to the future.

We are all Somali

[Somaliman%]

majerten and dhulbahante had no share only general morgan was mj thats it.

haawiye were the soldiers and even some isaaqs ...

[Cilmiile]

Manaking

Ina Baxar, who i believe is Habar awal, was bragging about the genocide carried out by General Yoonis Habane of the Habar Awal agains the civilians of Mudug in 1979-81. Habane at the time was a high-ranking general in the Somali Army in the days before he defected to the SNM. He massacred tens of thousands of Majeerteens, poisoned their wells, looted their livestock, and allowed the rape of their women. And in 2007 Ina Baxar is bragging about it on Somalinet. Disgraceful.

[LiQaaye_TDH]

There was very few Mj's mainly Dhullos and some other clans, even isaaqs.....

[Manaking]

okay I will let this thread go dead
but somaliman%

your post sounds like nazis who dont believe holocaust ever took place ....

However I still believe the genocide was orchestred by Darood against Issaq .
And today a new genocide is taking place against Hawiya by Darood allied with foreigners .

You can't claim this as an majerteen and Tigray thing only.
I think we have to see the whole picture here .

Not that it counts anything for Hawiya
just like they refused to respect Somaliland with their TNG goverment and Hawiya president before A/Y TFG

[Manaking]

Cilmiile

That is indeed disgraceful wallahi .

[X.Playa]

Liqaaye Tiidhi and guray81,

Speake on what you are avid on and don't make wild claims, the entire Dhafoor Qiiq were fighting in Hargaysa under Gen Morgan, all former SSDF rebels were fighting the SNM in Hargaysa under their cousin Morgan , they were supposedly to avenge what the Isaaq officers did allegedly to their kind in now Buqland.

The OLF was under Axmed Cumar Jees , after the SNM expelled all Ogaadeens from western Somalia and completly whiping them out by 1986.

No Hawiye officer of any merit led or commanded an exclusively Hawiye unit to fight Isaaq, not even in Berbera where the commander was Cabdicaziiz Bare. In fact 90% of Isaaq civilians were let go by Hawiye , while the Daarood were shooting them on the spot allied by the Oromo refugees in Hargaysa in particular.

Burco also was commanded by Xaarti officers , Cadceed and Faalso.

Both Haarti and Ogaadeen fought along tribal line defending Siad Bare out of tribal loyality while other somali soliders just fallowed orders.

So don't make this stupid claim unless you can back it up.

[wadaniweyn1]

the main perputrators were dhilobadane that's yy
after iyaga iyo faqashta kale marr kanuu wasnay the arap
poet said,
Abwaankii weynaa ee Maxamed Nuur Fadal uu lahaa;
Bulbulloow Libaax iyo Dawaco boower kala roone
Haddii uu bulxamo Aarku waa bili cuslaadaaye
Waxan nahay rag lagu beegi jirey boqol ninkoodiiye tru dat

Abwaanku wuxu gabayga oo arartiisu aysan dhammayn ku bilaabay sidatan;

........
Meeshiyo anoo qaydleh baan qaari ku ahaaye
Qalin-duurrayaashaan afxumo qaladba moodeyne
Qurux maleh nin caytamay sidii dumarka qaarkiiye
Iga qoro qasiidooyin baan kuu qaddimayaaye

Aduunyadan qaskiyo weerarkiyo qaxarka loo uumay
Ee qaboowga loo diiday ee laysku qalanaayo
Ninkii gelin qadeeyaba waqtigan qoolka gelinaaya

Waataan qabkaagii ku idhi yuu qar kaa ridine
Waataan qasaaraha ku idhi qoorta haw dhiganne
Waataan xumaan kaa qabtiyo qoomihii hore'e

Waataan cajlado kuu qatimay waano qiiro ahe
Waataan hawada qaadday idhi qaaradaa mariye
Qasdigaygu waa tuu ahaa nabadda qiimeeye

Naf uu qaamudkeedii galaan qabarba faallayne
Raggii qayladaadii ku kacay waakuwaa qubane
Haddaa meydku qadawgii bixiyo qariyey dooggiiye


Waakaa qalfookii Hayiyo, Qararro yaalyaalle
Imikaa dhurwaa qawdhamiyo haadku qodayaaye
imikaa qaxootigu Nugaal sii qulqulayaaye

Dhallaan qayladii waxa la yidhi waa qaboonada'e
Waayahan qalaadkii dhinte iyo korisu qaadkiiye
Wadnihii na qayraamin jirey waa qufulateene

Qosolka iyo haasaawihii kuma qaxwaysaane
Ma qafiiftay Uusloow adaa huriyey qiiqaase
Ma qatallantay waatii Siyaad iilka kuu qoday'e

Ma qunbacatay goortii warkoo qoran laguu keenay
Ma qandhootay geerida markaad gelisay qoyskiinna
Ma qayirantay maantaan tolnimo kula qalloocnayne
Ma qiyaastay noloshaa qabteen qaalinnimadeeda
Ma qiirootay waa lagu lumaa kibirka qaarkiise
Ma ka qooftay nimankaad lahayd qaata amarkayga

Ma qadderisay waa mawd qarsoon qaranka reer shiikhe 4 sho
Qusurkaba adaan gaadhin iyo badaha qooqaaya
Qaxarka iyo kibirkii miyaa kaa qadhqadhinaaya

Qalalaasaahaagina miyaad qaadi kari weydey
Jeerooy Qunbuladuu dhacaan laysma qaaddimine
Qira gaabnidee sowdigii col u qalqaalaayey

Qudh la gooyo iyo dhaawac iyo maal la kala qaado
Qardoofadu rag waw soo taxnayd taniyo Qaabiile
Qammuunyada ilkaha iyo dibnuhu waa qashiinnimo'e

Nin xumaan qoday caadki tahay qoomamiyo ciile
Qabtii Samatar galay waadigaa qoobka soo dhigaye
Haddaad gacan-Libaax qaad is tidhi quusashaa xigiye 4 real

Ninkii Qaanso iyo leeb filanayoow qabarki weynaaye
Sunta qaraxday ciiddiina waa qori madoobaade
Waxba yay is qoosaalintii ila qadhaadhaanne

Haddaa nabaddi aad quudhsateen qiimo leedahaaye
Qaraabiyo abtiga waa kolkaa qiran ogeydeene
Maxaan kula qabtaa waatanoo qulubtay Uusloowe


somali national mujahiiiiiiiid

[Warsame101]

Manaking, offically it was the vice-president Maxamed Cali Samatar who ordered the attack and he admitted that on bbc interview saying that he had to use brute force to destroy the coward SNM movement once and for all. Maxamed Siyaad Barre (RH) couldn't do much as he was still experiencing the effects of the car accident in '86 and only had to dedicate a hour at most to minor duties and public appearances.

The Times (issue 1986) writes:

"The most likely replacement is the Vice-President, Lieutenant-General Mohamed Ali Samatar, who assumed power when General Siad Barre was injured in the crash. He is not of the same clan as the President."

And guess what, Maxamed Cali Samatar is Madhibaan not Daarood.

Lastly, if you call what happend in the north "genocide", then you should equally call the crimes of the SNM genocide too since they also targetted thousands of non-Isaaq civilians.