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Siad Barre !! The Black HITLER

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Somali-Historian

Thursday, July 06, 2000 - 09:45 am
Siad Barre, will go down in History as the Black Hitler, a Man who Killed and destroyed a whole generation of People. His brutality did not know any bounds, he killed the Imams and even bombed his own people who dared to oppose his dictatorial Regime. Somalia is Today haunted by the ghosts of the innocent people who died in the hands of the Black Hitler. The country will never know peace untill the cronies who supported this Monster are brought to justice. Siad, the Black Hitler died in shame after beign chased out of the Country. He might have escaped justice in this World, but he will Never escape the justice that is waitting for him in the Day of judgement.

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Xoogsade

Thursday, July 06, 2000 - 02:51 pm
Black Hitler? You don't think that is overstating the case?

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abdul

Thursday, July 06, 2000 - 03:04 pm
The black Hitler, he is in the same class if not worse.

I dont think he is overstating the case, more Somalis were killed during the time of this Monster than any other time in the History of Somalia. Siad Barre was the only President who used his Army to Bomb his own people in his own country. History can never be changed

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Miski

Thursday, July 06, 2000 - 03:36 pm
Xoogsade, I agree with you. Af weyne was not as smart as Hitler, hence his level of atrocities and conniving viciousness were mediocre comparatively speaking.

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Michigan

Thursday, July 06, 2000 - 04:06 pm
ow oow......watch all da mareexaan pple start screaming!!!!!!!

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Lady Luck

Thursday, July 06, 2000 - 07:59 pm
Michigan you are an ignorant bastard. How dare you associate Siad Barre and his brutal regime with the honourable Marehan people. True, Afwene claimed to champion our people over all other Somalis, but in reality all of his actions were made for his own personel gains. I was horrified with the malicious nature of the atrocities committed by Afwene's secret police first against the majeertane people in the late 70's then against the Isak people. However, I also believe that it is time we reconciliate with one another and move on rather then holding on to old grudges against each other over what somebody else commited and being labeled responsible just for the fact that the person was from your clan. I can guarantee you that no Marehan living today candones the evil tyranny of Siad Barre so I suggest that all you ignorant morons who are living in the past should wake up and realise that we have all suffered from persecution. Nobody ever speaks of the thousands of Marehan and fellow darod civilians who were raped, robbed and massacred by the U.S.C in the early 90's. My heart goes out to all the people who were victimized by Afwene and I implore you to overcome your hatred for the Marehan people. I love all my Somali brothers and sisters regardless of their clan. So please make the feeling mutual and lets reconciliate. Enough people have suffered and died over past tyranny so dont you think its time to come together and move forward
aslamu alikum

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PaPa

Thursday, July 06, 2000 - 09:22 pm
Lady Luck, I hear you loud and clear. Its time to heal and move on. Maybe we need a truth and reconciliation Committee to set the record straight once and for all. Let those who committed atrocities be dealt with and stop this blanket condemnation. We should look at people as individuals, cant blame a whole clan for the actions of a few. Is that too much to ask ?

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dhalinyaro

Thursday, July 06, 2000 - 09:30 pm
lets say Siad was black hitler history speaks it self but what about Caydiid who came such theory which says by cleaning one clan out of the country could bring stability and prosperity to the country that happened 1991-1994 we seen semilarity in Raunada and Bosnia.
dhagardagaal
1. Caydiid
2. Siyad Bare
3. Jees,Gani and Morgan
4. Cigaal and Tuur dagaaladii Burca

Bililiqada Bulshada
1. Caato
2. Maxamed SH.Cusman Ex-minister
3. Qanyare
4. C/Jamac Bare Ex-minister

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dalmar

Friday, July 07, 2000 - 04:54 am
Siad can not be compared to warlods, he was a President of a Country. thats what makes his crimes even worse than all the rest combined. He was suppose to protect the lives of his citizens but instead he Massacared them and Poison them and bomb them. He was a brutal and evil human beign. I think he should be charged with crimes against humanity. Go to his Grave exhume the body and put him on trial.

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She

Friday, July 07, 2000 - 06:15 am
Somali-Historian My foot!

Jaale, U are distorting the facts here and that is so so SAD! Whatever Siyaad Barre did he did for the sake of our nation. His only aim was to protect the unity and welfare of our nation. It was for the interested of our national security and united Somalia. and He has done great evil to those who oppose his radical ideology. Having been said that, history proved that, Siyaad Barre is legend with iron fist and Somali needed that at that particular time. In addition, his action was justifying n exactly to enable that purpose regardless of the horrible opposition he encountered to prevent the current situation that we are in today.
Black Hitler and his son's = Mooriyaan!
FYI, Siyaad will be in Heaven, for putting up with you ppl, who are damned ever since the begining of the human life...

Abdul

You said "more Somalis were killed during the time of this Monster than any other time in the History of Somalia."
Who is fooling who here?

If u are saying that one Anti-Kacaan siyaad punished is equal to hundreds of innocent lives that U Moriyaans murdered, in that case, your point of view is justified.

At least we had a Country with a flag not an anarchy, chaos, skeletons all over the city. This is a fact and every decent Somaali is aware of it, as long as you are not trying to be bias to specific clan...... categorically I reject your claim and it is unfair to Siyaad Barre it seems like u are projecting personal interest and agenda........
Siyaad was a Legend and he will be remembered as one, In every Soomaalis heart of course there is exception for Morons who were beating the drums of separation and dividing Somalia in to bits and pieces.............



Michigan,
I am not Mariixaaaaaaaan but I eat Maliixaan!

peace n <3 all

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Muriidi

Friday, July 07, 2000 - 06:21 am
Ladyluck

Ka rogoo bal laba saar

Aren't you the one who was ululating, rejoicing and encouraging Siad Barre to enslave other Somali clans for you, since when did you started being in my shoes and feeling my grieve. Were you not the one who thought being Marreehan was a God-given gift and superior to other calns, were you not the one who was living luxuriously while other Somalis were dying of hunger.

Quote " I can guarantee you that no Marrrehan condones the evil tyranny of Siad Barre" Unqoute.
Is this a joke or are you so simple minded as to think that any Somali would believe this.

Don't gimme this crab Ladyunlucky

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Majeeeteen Man

Friday, July 07, 2000 - 10:40 am
Lady Luck
I hope u didn't miss the LandCrusser and the Villa !!!! keep crying ILKA YAR we will never reconcile.

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Abdul

Friday, July 07, 2000 - 11:00 am
She

You must be dumb and dead from the neck up ! you tried to justify the crimes of this Monster, but no matter how you try to explain his atrocities you cant justify the acts of this Devil called Siad, he was a curse to the Somali Nation. Only a Morrally bankrupt person can try to defend the genoside and brutality that were committed by the "black Hitler" and his people.

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Observer

Friday, July 07, 2000 - 11:17 am
majerteen man = moryan in disguise

She likes to be polemical for the simple reason of getting attention. The 'shock factor' must be her high...She revels in insults...how pathetic.
She must be haraagii dadku afweyne nooleeye.

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amadeou

Sunday, July 09, 2000 - 08:45 am
SomaliHistorian and his crew:

I would like to tell you that you are simple idiots who bought into jews crap. Let me ask you who was hitler?. Do you think hitler was as bad as jews are telling us?. For your info, it was not hitler alone that had the idea of cleaning the jews from europe. At his time,even Murther Luther King, the founder of protestants, said jews should be expelled from Europe. And it was not hitler's idea to hate jews. It was everybody living that time in Europe who hates the way jews were manupulating the economy. this is not a problem that hitler created. It happened 2000 ago in plastine that Romans expelled jews from there. It also happened that Nabi Mohamed (p.u.h) expelled jews from Madina. And today the jews hate is very strong in Aryan race and even blacks community. Why? just same reason through human history. today jews manupalate the world's economy throught IFM and other private monetary instituitions. And also they manupulate the world's idea through Holywood , media.

So please before coming here and yapping Hitler was this and that, think twice and read history. And same goes to Siad Barre unless you are stupid Isaq under the hood, you would't utter such stupidity.
if you were fed with westren demoracy bulshit, just read the history American civil war. How many died in that civil war and why?. Millions died for the sake of American Unity. And same goes to Somalia. Thousands died in hargeysa and else where to secede or to overthraw the goverment. And the goverment tried to defend the unity of the country. Tell me why the goverment would bomb Hargeysa or Burco other than restoring the Unity?. And idiots before i go let me ask this question. Does any of you idiots and parotes out there ever hear BIOFARA war in Nigeria?.And how many died? and why?.

ISaq idiots and pupets keep on dwelling Ina siyad was hitler, if that will solve your problem at hand. And try to rewrite the history for your sake. In my humble opinion we never had president before Siyad. and we don't have one after him.

Viva "macalinka weyn". Viva de grand meastro Aabe Siyaad. May Allah 's peace and mercy be on you.
Amadeou' the proud pro siyad.

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Abdul

Sunday, July 09, 2000 - 07:17 pm
amedou ( you need a brain transplant)

your mother should have aborted you, you are a waste of human flesh and bone, you are dead from the neck up !! what you wrote here makes sense only to meatheads like you,

you Said :
"Thousands died in hargeysa and else where to secede or to overthraw the goverment. And the goverment tried to defend the unity of the country. Tell me why the goverment would bomb Hargeysa or Burco other than restoring the Unity?."

So the reason Siad bomb Hargeisa and burco was to restore Unity. Is that how a government restores unity ? by Killing its citizens ????

You must be a genius, I would not have figured out the reason why Siad killed hundreds of innocent women and children. Wow, maybe Canada should try that huh ! they should bomb Montreal and Quebec city for the sake of unity. Maybe I should write to the Canadian government and tell them about your ideas huh. They may even make you an adviser to the prime Minister.

I dont know if I should laugh or Vomit !

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Xoogsade

Monday, July 10, 2000 - 02:20 am
The Canadians wouldn't bomb from the air. They will just go in and torture all the troublemakers to death just as they did to that boy, Shidane Haaruun. They are humanitarians you see, these Canadians.

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Xoogsade

Monday, July 10, 2000 - 02:28 am
Amadeou:

Martin Luther= German cleric, Opponent of Vatican power.(Here I stand, I can do no other)

Martin Luther King=American civil rights leader(I have a dream.....)

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Amadeou

Monday, July 10, 2000 - 03:44 am
xoogsade:
cheers pal! and Thanks for taking time to correct me. I do appreciate it. But hey i thought the oly difference of these two men was the only *jr* which mean *junior* and of course distingiushes from the big guy (the founder of protestants) from this small guy--the civil rights leader- the *jr*. I thought they both shared the *King* thing. Thanks again.

Abdul:
You idiot Isaq under the hood, Listen up man!. De grand meastro, BAABA SIYAAD, oh may lord give him mercy, didn't bomb Hargeysa and Burco for a fun and just for the heck of it. There was a reason. The simplest question any knuckle head would ask is why bombing Hargeysa? why not Baydhabo? why not Kismayo?. And it is facts recorded in the books (of course not isaq books)that the so-called SNM holed up in Hargeysa and Burco. The cowards used children and women as shelter. So the De grand meatro has no choice but punish those whimps and their women + kids. Simple as that. And it was also facts that they were fighting wearing skirts which makes the life of a soldier fighting for somali unity hard to distinguish between the genders. Yeah! the soldier would see a woman looking thing, as a soon as passes the woman turn to be a man and starts shooting the loyal soldier. I guess you can ask why those whimps would wear skirts and putting your MOms in trouble.

And about this stupid analogy you are trying to make in Canada and Quebeck, sir Quebeckers are civilized people who don't take guns. they seek their independent throught referedum. Tell me stupid iidoor if you ever see any quebecker armed or running around a AK47 against the powerful goverment. I guess your argeument is then destroyed and it is NULL and VOID. anything else knuckle heads iidoors out there?

you can call the the rest of iidoors and try to reason with me and come up with good argument next time, youn born whimps.

For the time being,keep on dwelling in the past and keep on whining as like whining will help you.
And if you will excuse me i got some business to run. till tehn enjoy my motto.


VIVA "macalinka weyn". Viva de grand maestro Aabe siyaad. May Allah's peace and mercy be upon on you.

Amadeou "the proud pro siyad".

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Michigan

Monday, July 10, 2000 - 03:44 am
woooow......the battle between Mareexaan n' Isaq is just getting hoter n' hoter......i can't wait to see more!!!!!

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Abdul

Monday, July 10, 2000 - 06:00 am
, didn't bomb Hargeysa and Burco for a fun and just for the heck of it. There was a reason

So let me get this straight, He had a Reason to kill !!!!, As long as you have a "Reason" you can kill People, so that makes it ok, you sound more stupid everytime you open your Mouth.

And about this stupid analogy you are trying to make in Canada and Quebeck, sir Quebeckers are civilized people who don't take guns.

Yes i agree, I even give you credit here for taking note of how civilised the Canadian Quebecers are. Too bad we can say that about Siad, the black Hitler. The word civility was not in his dictionary. He was a monster who killed anyone who was bright and brave enough to disagree with him.

He liked idiots like you who would pray facing the direction of his Villa.

The only language that this monster understood was violence ! and thats what made him Run out of town like a Coward. He could not take the Heat !!


You can call him your Maestro or whatever you like but that does not and can not change the facts,

SIAD WAS A MASS MURDERER !
SIAD WAS A COWARD,
HE RUN FROM THE COUNTRY LIKE A COWARD
HE DIED LIKE A COWARD.

WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF SIAD GOING TO HEAVEN ?
WELL ASK YOURSELF THIS, WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF GOD BEING A MAREXAAN ??????????????

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Michigan

Monday, July 10, 2000 - 08:16 am
lol lol lol lol.............
damn! Mareexaan pple......u have to came back hard.....coz dat was good one.........lol

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true-warrior

Monday, July 10, 2000 - 08:36 am
Michigan, there is no battle here my friend we defeated this idiots in the battle field. We kicked Ass, they still cant get over it. But let them talk shiit after all thats all they got.....Shiit.

There are two types of Mareexaan,
The dead and the walking dead !

We kicked the mareexan Ass Sooo hard that we left a Shoe in their Rear. So When you see a mareexaan making too much Noise ! you know its the shoe in his Ass thats talking.

Where is Siad and his dwarfs Now ??
Why argue with losers ? We Won the War the true Soldiers are the ones who are still standing proud after the War. We have our land, we have our pride. What do you have ? you are still killing each others like animals. Hurry up and finish each other. The Wolrd is tired of feeding your sorry Ass. The South is now know as the Grave yard of Africa. Thanks to the Mareexan.

Grow up and stop acting like neglected Orphans.

You are waitting for Siad to came back and save you ? He fled and left your sorry ass behind. Aabe my foot.

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Va sis

Monday, July 10, 2000 - 09:15 am
I see a lot of pain in both sides, Somalia will never heal with that much animosity.
It's true that Siyaad was a monster and he was the cause of all the problems in Somalia. But the fact remains that the Hawi*ye in the south and the Isaa*q from the north were not even able to establish legitimacy for over a decade.
So stop blaming each other and start taking care of your poor starving people. Be leaders already, and stop bickering.

Va sis

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amadeou

Monday, July 10, 2000 - 09:57 am
Michigan:
You may think that i am mareexaan but i swear to Allah i am not one. I am just a fella who is get sick of and tired of some bastard iidoor bin- sized head emotionally black mailing us--the rest of the somalis. Do you think they have any respect for the rest of somalis?. Do you think they distungiush who is who?. They don't i swear.

To them, Hawiyas are savages and daaroods are all dictators. and raxanweyn...? you can guess the rest. this is what one knuckle head, true-warior, wrote down.

"What do you have ? you are still killing each others like animals. Hurry up and finish each other. The Wolrd is tired of feeding your sorry Ass. The South is now know as the Grave yard of Africa."

They don't care if you are mareexaan or not. I hope sooner or later you will figure out how arrogant and stupid those mutherfucker are. They think they are better than other somalis.


Abdul:

You didn't make any counter arguement, you pussy. The only thing you raised up is this stupid comment;

"The word civility was not in his dictionary. ".

Aha ! so you guys took guns since Maestro was not civilized and the only thing he could understand was gun? huh?.Then why whining now?. Do you stupid iidoors thought you can take the king's crown withoout being punished. ahahahaha. damn it! how little you iidoors understand!.

tell me now, why whining like 2 yrs old baby if you admited here that those skirt wearers called SNM started graping stupid guns and picked on the meastro?.
For you info sir, meastro had every rights to deffend his power and the unity of country. and if those whimps used their women and kids as shelter what do you think maestro will suppose to lose?.He, maestro will be damn happy to kill some whimps and their hosts.

I can assure you meastro was listening good American song called "so let it be". De grand maestro was waking up every morning and would ask his defence minister if enough iidoors asses were whipped. and then wuxuu ku "tuuran" jiray the above song.

if iidoors decided their ass being whipped , "so let it be.. yeah ! yeah! so let it be.. why the hell do i care?. yeah ! yeah! so let it be ..so let it be". and there are chorus this "so let it be ..so let it be." thing.

ok.ok. i guess it is about time to call the day.
and iidoors if you will excuse me, my fried rice with lamp is ready and my crew are eager to start.


and yeah enjoy my motto i know you guys like.


VIVA! "macalinka weyn". Viva! de grand maestro Aabe siyaad. May Allah's peace and mercy be upon on you.

Amadeou "the proud pro siyad".

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lol

Monday, July 10, 2000 - 11:39 am
GUUL WADOW SIYAAD
ABIHII GARASHADA
GAYGA YAGOOOO
***********

NOLOW SIYAAD NOLOW HEEEEEEY!!!!

LOL


LOOOOOOOOOOL
ISKU WAASHTA AROW DUQAAS WAA HORUU DHINTEE, DHAREERKA MEEHA KALA KACAAN IDIN IRI!!!!!!!!!
LOOOOOL

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TheTruth

Monday, July 10, 2000 - 02:31 pm
In the Somali North West, the isaqqs have been missing Siad Barre and his gentle rule. It is a fact that Siad Barre is missed in the Isaqq land.
The Siad Barre that used to whip them there not the one that had loosened his grip.
It is also a fact that the Isaqq people always look for somebody who abuses them. Since Siad Barre's abuse was not enough for the isaaqs, I wonder what the other leader of Somalia will do for the isaqqs to make them in line since the isaqqs only like and respect the one who always abuses them. Due to this fact, I have one advice for the next isaqq abuser: Don't do what Siad barre did and try to be gentle with them. Just whip their ass till they bow for the sake of respect. Some of you might think that is being extreme, but an isaqq person knows deep down in his heart that the only think the isaqqs are missing is abuse.

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dalmar

Monday, July 10, 2000 - 02:43 pm
What do we have here ?? the Siad Orphans looooool@@@ this guys make me laugh so hard, damn.

true warrior,, you said it best Man no need to say more.

Siad is a dead donkey guys, he is not worth the soil he was buried on.

I say it again, Take his bones out and hang them.

I thought the original line was..... Abihi Garaacyasha!
.

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She

Monday, July 10, 2000 - 03:14 pm
Observer = Kulmis in disguise.......
So your tiny "bistoolo = ***",tells you one must be mareexaan or dabo dhilif in order 2 notice Siyaad was Legend! kiss my foot...............

Abdul, the kutaab-gaabloow you are dead from the belt down= where u keep your brain, if ya have one to begin with, Cajiib man ! I don't know waxa xirta laga siiyo Propagandada......

Mudane Xoogsade,
We don't know what Shidane Haaruun did to deserve that do we? knowing my moriyaan brothers and their capability of heinous crimes ....
Don't get me wrong, I am not saying he deserved that torture......
Bro do me a favor, next time do not generalize unless you are talking about Group of Sheiks or moriyaan and I thank ya!

Muriidi and Munaafiq man oops I mean Majarteen man, lesson #1 All Mareexaan are not responsible for what Siyaad did good or bad..


Peace n <3 all

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Xoogsade

Monday, July 10, 2000 - 03:31 pm
Siyaad Barre was a criminal. Just like like every single living Somali. We all have blood on our hands or at the very least contemplated or wished for the destruction and massacre of our "enemies", the other tribes. SNM and USC said "dila Daaroodka". I can personally think of at least 10 people - innocent civilians all of them, or as innocent as a Somali can be - very close and dear to my heart that were killed in the last 16 years for no other reason than their birth. The same claim can easily and verifiably be made by any other Somali of any tribe against any other given tribe. I also remember some idiots I know who were rooting for the Americans when they were chasing Caydiid and and who used to celebrate the death of innocent muslim Soamlis. And who were despondent and sad at the sight of the dead gaal beeing dragged through the street. I mean how crazy is that? I personally was hoping the Moorryaan would kill more white devils but sadly it was not to be.

Anyway Somali brothers let us forget the past and build a new country, but with a new formula. The old one was awful.

You know what I like about the new system, I can directly call our family village on the Ethiopian border right here from Canada. In the old days a telegram would get there in 2 months and when it did, it would get there all out of breath and tired.

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Xoogsade

Monday, July 10, 2000 - 03:38 pm
She:

How the heck are you? todo bien?

Sis: Ha ila soo qaadin reer Canada, nimankaasi yarka wasay ku sameeyyeen. If I ever see these Canadians peacebreakers I just might become a gacankudhiigle, cause everytime I see that picture in my head, I just go nuts anew. I mean they went mediaval on the kid. Just wrong....

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MN man

Monday, July 10, 2000 - 03:54 pm
She Wz up with tha munaafaq comment?

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ladyluck

Monday, July 10, 2000 - 07:51 pm
I can't believe the amount of hatred and animosity we Somalis still have for one another. After ten long years of horrible destruction, brutal civil war, clan cleansing and un-rivaled famine; One would think that any civilized and resonable human beings would realize that reconciliation is the only answer in order to preserve peaceful coexsistence.

Amadeou:

I dont know how you can rationalize the bombing of innocent civilians on the pretext of preserving national unity and social order. Any leader that declares war on his own people deserves to burn in hell. Its true that in the beginning Siad was trying to unify all the Somali areas under one flag. But, that was a failed cause from the start because it didn't have international approval. You should be ashamed of yourself for proclaiming Siad a national hero. He was a savage dictator who sacrificed the well-being of a nation for the betterment of few individuals.

Abdul:

I can understand where your coming from with your hatred for Siad. I even laughed at your sacreligious humour about god being marexaan (ouch that one hurt!!!) No matter how much you despise our people, the truth of the matter is no present acts of humality and compassion could undo past injustices or even change your mind about the marexaan people. In other words I dont know what you expect us to do for you because even if we gave you the sun, moon and the stars your hatred wouldn't decrease. therefore, dont you think its time to say enough is enough its time to forgive not forget. Its alright to remember your dead friends and relatives but this hatred that is deep in your heart will just end up engulfing your soul. I myself, Even have relatives who were butchered im xamar by the U.S.C for the simple fact that they were darrod (do you think that was fair!!) I think we should concentrate on what we have in common; we both hate Siad Barre, tyranny and murder of innocent civilians. Regardless of how much you might hate me I still love you because you are my Somalian brother but keep it that way because I wont accept anyone dissing my clan. So with that being said let bygons be bygons and call it a truce.

True-warrior:

You are a pathetic fool. your patriotism or clanism or whatever you wanna call it disgusts me. I am sick and tired of people turning this in to a Isak vs Marexaan agenda. This is a much more complicated issue which involves everyone. All parties are to blame, no one clan or group were completely innocent. So please, save your self-righteous attitude for someone who cares because quite frankly I dont give a damn about you or what you represent, ignorant moron.

Murridi:

I am not going to waste my time with you by giving a proper response to your ignorance so I only have on word for you "loser"

She:

Thanks for your support sis one love, one country and one future.

Like I said before I have nothing but love for all my Somali brothers and sisters regardless of their clan be it isak or majertaane or even hawiya. We all have to share a country so I hope that one day we all realize that its time stop the finger pointing and come together before its too late

asalamu alikum

yours truly ladyluck

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amadou

Monday, July 10, 2000 - 10:30 pm
so-called ladyluck:

You made me sick !. And i urge you not address me again in any circumance in your sanity. Why do i feel ashamed?. Bitch!stop yapping these non sense. you don't have a clue what war is. Do you?. Let me ask you was Henry Trueman a savage dictator when he bombed Horishima?.
Tell me why Siyad Barre would give a damn when SNM skirt wearers using their innocents women and children as shelter?. Do you knw that those weaks entered the Hargeysa and start shooting the national troops from windows?. Do you know that they wore skirts and scarfs to look like women and started shooting the loyal soldiers at the back?.and soldiersdidn't know or even care who is who since they were all women looking humans shooting at them?

I hate when some fakes like try to play "nice" and proclaim fake "civilazation". call me moron if you want to but that is where i stand. Sayid Barre was right whipping those iidoor asses. ANd please do me a fovar ,don't address me again.

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CADE

Tuesday, July 11, 2000 - 12:14 am
that is it!!!!..... GET IT OUT....GET IT OUT!

TAKE A DEEP BREATH NOW...... YOU FEEL BETTER NOW...

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gurey1

Tuesday, July 11, 2000 - 01:06 am
Asalaamu Aleeykum

intii dhimatay ala ha unaxariisto

siad bare waxa uu ahaa nin reer miyi ah oo daacad ah waligiina aan qof soomaaliyeed danbi ka galin.waliba xoolo dhaqata ah marka inaad ku danbaabtaani xaqmaha ee waxaad faleeysan kafiirsada.siad bare wiilkiisii maxamed baa dalka xukumayay 21 sano wixii danbi loo heeysto waa gooni aakhiro aa xisaabtaalaa.midna ogaada ilaaheey nafwalba waxay geeysatay buu ku abaal marinayaa markaa balwaxa oday siad bare idiingeestay idinkaa ka jawaabi aakhiro waayo madaxweeyne idiinma aheen wiilkiisa iyo isaguna waa kala labo shaqsi.waakabaxay

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Xaali

Tuesday, July 11, 2000 - 08:52 am
Intii dhimaytay iyo intii noolba Ilaahay haa uu naxaariisto......Taariikhdana waa in la qoray.

Emotional drivel aside; Maxamed Siyaad Barre, wuxuu ahaa dictactor, dhiig ya caba ah. It is an insult to humanity to deny the crimes he committed against many innocent Somalis.

Bombing civilians, mining whole regions, poisioning wells, systematic rape and taking possessions of other peoples wealth is not justifiable, by any means.

...........Dadka caaytama, you are welcome inaad caaytantaan. Just know, that won't change the facts.

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Michigan

Tuesday, July 11, 2000 - 09:24 am
looool....n' da battle goes on!

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amadeou

Tuesday, July 11, 2000 - 10:10 am
xaali :
you just being stupid leftist who have no idea what politics is nor humanity. Keep on preaching the non sense like green peace do dear.
for your info, here we use real politics--the realistic school of thought. "Might is the right" is the only way to go. Get it?. women studies doesn;t make a cut here.
and you know what leftist? history is just relative and it comes down to interpertation. you hero is my monster. and Your monster could be my hero. see it?. it just depends on which side of the damn coin you are on.


viva maclinka weyn --de grand mnaestro aabe siyaad. may Allah 's peace and mercy be on you.
amadeou.

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Xaali

Tuesday, July 11, 2000 - 10:42 am
Amadeou,little knowledge is dangerous. Don't debase Einstien's theory please.

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Mullah

Tuesday, July 11, 2000 - 10:43 am
Xaali:

Well Said

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amadeou

Tuesday, July 11, 2000 - 11:39 am
MULAH:

hahaha what whimp!. Is that the way you approach chicks?. what Poor woman hunting skill!.
waryaa be a man and stop "dhabdheynta". mise mas dilkii la sheegi jiraa tahay. Only real women get the women-not whimps .
amadeou , the man of thougt

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amadeou

Tuesday, July 11, 2000 - 11:41 am
xaali; dear the Buck stops here at my desk. i rule the place ok?

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Xoogsade's Interview with Macalin Siyaad

Tuesday, July 11, 2000 - 01:13 pm
I conducted the following interview last night with the Late President Siad Barre of Somalia with the help of the transcendental channeling experts at The Psychic Network.

Here are excerpts from the interview. The full interview will be published on a dedicated web site.

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Qaarkiinbaa oranhaya odagu muxuu la adimahayaa. Waan adimahayaa maxaa wacay ummada Soomaaliyeed ma ay garansana hagardaamada ay la damacsan yihiin imbiriyaaliyada caalamiga iyo Sahyuuniyada is-bahaystay ujeedadooduna ay tahay burburka qaranimada Soomaaliyeed.

Hadaba waa inaan tirtirno canaasiirta u adeegaysa una hogaansan Imbiriyaaliistaha oo aan ciribtirno si aan saafi uga noqono suntooda amaba aan geed cidla ha ku xirno. Qaarkiin baa oran doona canaasiirtaasu inay lagama maarmaan yihiin oo dadkana ugu cilmi badan yihiin. Waa midaan la isoo marin karin in afmiinshaarro iyo jaajuusayaal sahyuuniyada u hogaansan kacaanku u dhutin doono. Kacaankanagu waa sida hangaraaraca, hangaraaracna lug qura uma dhutiyo; anaguna haddaanu nahay maamulkii kacaanka uma aanu dhutinayno canaasiirtaasi aan gees isaga saarnay.

Markaa waxaan dhamaan ummada ku baraarujinayaa in la iska caabiyo ajnebiga inna kala tuuraya oo dhibkooda aynu iska awdno. Waa in dalkii aan dib u dhisno talaabooyinka loo baahan yahayna degdeg loo qaado. Talaabooyinkaasi oo loo baahan yahay in laga bilaabo sidii loo dhisi lahaa Soomaali weyn isku duuban midnimadeeduna ay taam tahay oo leh wax-wada qabsi iyo wadajir.

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True Man

Tuesday, July 11, 2000 - 05:04 pm
Hello Guys


Siad bare was a Dictator and he killed lot of ppl, but what about what the USC did, Daily killing, Looting,Torture, destruction private and Public places, where is our City Muqdishu. Said barre left Muqdishu while lights were on, Xaali please calm down Ignoring what the facts Mooryan did past and continuous today.


To: Mullah

Pro-nothing

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She

Tuesday, July 11, 2000 - 05:19 pm
Xoogsade,

In a sense you are aggravating me Xoogsade. I remember vividly that picture like it is today, when they drag that dead gaal in Mogadisho streets........ I was disgusted and ashamed as a Somali women I could not believe my eyes..... I was saying to myself how on earth my beloved people are capable of such horrible thing..... I believe every creature on this earth is horrified of that picture unless you are heartless barbaric individual...... Aboow, if you are referring as innocent Muslims to those who killed their brothers and fought the UN peacekeepers, you are up to something no good..... No wonder why the whole world is watching us butcher each other..... We must be cursed since Adam and Eve if our educated brothers are thinking this way....

Mnman
Just bad habit whenever I c the name Majiirteen or MN munaafiq comes to my mind........

I agree with Amadeo let's say 70% has a valid point....... Pls ease on him guys!
Now Amadeo what ya mean by this [women studies doesn't make a cut here. ] I'll try to with hold my temper for now and leave the rest to Xaali...

Ludyluck,
Laa shukra calaal waajib sis..... And leave my bro Amadeo since meeshan wiixii la rabo la iskula hadlaayo sida Abdul saying;
"more Somalis were killed during the time of this Monster than any other time in the History of Somalia." What is this? 1 Somaliland man = 1000 hamaraawi miyaa?
How could you guys miss this? One doesn't need microscope to see this comment,mise habarta odaga la saar aa ka socoto mesha.....

True Warior,
U r psychologically disturbed---->MAANAKOOPIO

Peace n <3 all

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True-warrior

Tuesday, July 11, 2000 - 06:40 pm
I can hear the shoe talking again, Men that ass whoppin must really hurt.

You call SNM Skirt wearers, so let me get this straight !!! you got your ass kicked by a bunch of Skirt wearers ???? damn you are such a loser.

You cant change the facts boy, you are a sore loser, the Man who laughs last laughs the Most,,,

Tell me who Run out of the country like a Pussy ?

Who is in controll Now?? who ???


I cant hear you ???????????????????????

who ? ? Run like a woooose ???
LooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooL

the-----
True warrior that kicked your Ass, I left my shoe in there-- you can keep it as a Souveneir.

Whimp.
you lost so get over it.

,

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True Champion

Tuesday, July 11, 2000 - 06:57 pm
ladyluck:

First of all I would like to commend our lovely sister ladyluck for her persistence in trying to convince these madmen mooryans that we are not responsible for their misgivings. Such a elegant and articulate writer as yourself should realize that trying reach these madmen mooryans is the equivalence of talking to a brick wall. You should concentrate your efforts on much more important issues; such as the betterment of our own people. We need educated sisters like yourself to convey the message of truth and reconciliation to our children. You must understand that Siad was not the devil (or in this case "Hitler") he is made out to be. Siad was a man of great princepal who would not let anyone destroy the sanctity of our nation. When he was bombing those madmen mooryans in Hargaisa and Burco for their misbehaviour, he did it so that you and your family could live in the utmost luxury. So, instead of blaming Siad for the failure of our country, you should be thanking him for all the good he did for you and our people.

Amadeou:

I know exactly where your coming from bro. Those mooryans could attack your from all sides and call you a moron but we both know that everything Siad did was for the preservation of a our nation. If it weren't for those stupid mooryans our country wouldn't be in the tragic state it is in know. But, dont you think you were being a little too hard on our sister ladyluck. Its not her fault she thinks that way. She is a mere victim of isaak propaganda. Its our job to inform her and the rest of somalians that those skirt wearing mooryans were delibrately aggrevating our national soldiers so that they could consolidate power in their own little backward region. So, till next time keep up the good work and may allah have mercy on our papa grande Siad Barre a national legend for all so called Somalians

To the all mooryans:

To all those mooryans who claim that they defeated Siad you are decieving no one but yourselves. The same way you are decieving yourselves by claiming to have created a make-shift dreamland. Why do you think the isaak and majertane are the only clans that initially opposed Siad. I'll tell you why; because both these clans were traditionally and historically among the wealthiest and powerfull clans in Somalia and they couldn't accept the idea of the less resourcful marexan being on top. Last but not least to all those ghost looking mooryans in the south who claim to have destroyed marexan hedgemony I would recommend that you look around you; Luc, Jammame and Bardera are all islands of stabily in a sea of chaos, they are all prosperous towns and they are all marehan. Just thought i'd let you know. Until next time ta ta and for goodness sake stop your whinning you wont get any pity from me

Yours Truly: One of the true champions of Somalia (and proud of it)

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true champion

Tuesday, July 11, 2000 - 07:09 pm
To so called true warrior:

Since you associate yourself with the SNM your nothing but a skirt wearing bitch. When will you stupid morons learn that whining about the past wont win you any new friends. You can claim to have won all you want but we all know who the true champions are. One day the rest of Somalia will be fed up with your whining and lies and flush you out of our nation like the pieces of •••• you are. Like I said before dream on dreamlanders you will never get any pity from me

Yours Truly: True Champion not to be confused with the mooryan true bitch

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Muriidi

Wednesday, July 12, 2000 - 04:45 am
Ladyluck, horta naag baa tahay anigana naagaha lama caytamo, marka sidaas ku raali ahaw.

Laakiin sheeko yar oo dhab ah baan rabaa inaan u sheego dadka caadiga ah.

Nin Somali ah ayaa waxaa Guddomiye looga dhigay gobolka Gedo, wuxuu damcay inuu dadka deggen meeshaas hantidii qaranka wax ka soo celiyo. Kormeer ayuu ku aaday tuulooyinka oo loo kala deggenyahay laf laf, ninku wuxuu xiran jiray saacadaha "digital-ka" ah oo "alarm" leh, markay dadku isku soo baxaan oo uu cabbaar u qudbeeyo ayuu alarm-ka set garayn jiray, markay dhawaaqdo ayuu dhihi jiray, aamusa, oo intuu iska dhigo sidii nin telefoon ku hadlaaya, saacaddana dhegta saarto ayuu dhihi jiray, Jaale madaxweyne waa ku maqlaa, haye, haye, haa, si fiican, oo hadda waxaad leedahay Reer-Xasan ha laga qaado boqol geel ah, Reer-Axmedna, meeqa, boqol aa?, haa waa gartay, si fiican Jaale madaxweyne, odayaashoodii kulli waa ila joogaan weyna ku maqlaan.

Dadka hadda aan la murmeyno waxaa dhalay dadkaas

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Mr

Wednesday, July 12, 2000 - 07:12 am
Assalamu Alaikum

Can Mohamed Siyad Barre be equated with Hitler? In my honest opinion no. It is an absolute abomination to compare such individuals. However, I can see where the average person can be deceived by the obvious similarities. Yes, they both where the master minds of genocide and they both had the mandate from their civilians. It was really apocalyptic for the Issaaq clan, kind of 2pac like scenario "all eyes on me". Sheekhs of Mosques would admire this fact and pray may Allah help us in the war with Christian SNM. (True story in Gaalkacyo in 89). 2 third of the Somali National Army took part in their battle with the SNM. You see just like Hitler, Mohamed Siyad Barre believed in an iron fist. That is about all their similarities.

Hitler never bombed Berlin, or Bonn or any other city within his country, nor did he massacre his own people. I think that alone, makes Hitler look like a Saint, compared to the King of all Demons, Lucifer HIMSELF (Mohamed Siyaad Barre). In my humble opinion, I suggest you leave this dead man alone, and may PBUH. His time has gone, and he is facing his moment of truth. Those who like to blame him for all the bad deeds that happened in Somalia, I say it was a collective effort, so don't try and hang a dead man for your own sins. To those who like to make him a hero, you are only chasing your own tail!

WaSalam Wa Biaahi Towfiiq

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Anonymous

Wednesday, July 12, 2000 - 07:27 am
Muridii;

Hadii aad tahay qof Somaali ah sheeganay qof xaq
ku taagan oo reermagaal ah Waxaad saaxiib ka tagtey in la soo qabto maxkammadna la soo saaro ninkaas tuuga ahaa ee gudoomiye ka ahaa Gobolka Gedo hantidii uu ka dhacy dadkaas masaakiinta ahna laga soo celiyo.

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Real Kamaal

Wednesday, July 12, 2000 - 08:51 am
Where is the wisdom and knowledge we gained from our tragedy. After all these years, I can't believe my eyes what I am reading here. I am really disappointed, damn you all, you supposed to be a role model for the illiterate nomads at back home, and warn them about the consequences of triblism. Instead you have chosen to dig the past and address each other like enemies. I am really shocked to see educated guys like you pointing figures at each other. I always thought that there is a light at the end of the tunnel but all I see now is grim future.

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Mr

Wednesday, July 12, 2000 - 09:16 am
Assalamu Alaikum

Real Kamaal you are right, its futile to dwell in the past. Nevertheless, it seems there are conflicting stories being told, and once the thread has been started all you can do is set the matter straight. You know telling the truth BINNIE SEIGAL style.

Wassalam Wa Bilahi Towfiiq

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dalmar

Wednesday, July 12, 2000 - 09:45 am
amedou

Are you trying to convience yourself ? Because it aint gonna work with others. Internet is not enough, how about you call Spike Lee and ask him to re-write History for you. Make a Movie the American Way, and lie to people that Siad was Santa Claus. while you are at it, show the world how you are still champions and how you won the War with the North.

Try that maybe, maybe !! you would have a better chance, because your sorry ass poor grammar just aint doing the Job here.

How about this for a Title;

Fagash History X !

!

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Xaali

Wednesday, July 12, 2000 - 09:52 am
The way I see it, the issue is, are we capable of telling the truth about what happened in Somalia period. Can we write our history or shall we imitate the ostrich??

........."those who forget the past are condemned to repeat"

The words 'forgive' and 'forget' are not synonmous.

Mullah, long time brotherman!!

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sss

Wednesday, July 12, 2000 - 10:00 am
Fagash History X- lol, that is really funny.

Guys grow up; It’s a weak man that dwells in the past, think about the future and feeding the poor and the hungry; How our kids can have a future in their homeland, instead of being the west’s helping hand. It always hurts me to see a bright, strong Somali young man siting at a security desk or behind the wheel of a taxi (regardless of clan) when they are capable of so much more.
So wake up, damn idiots and accept the fact that the past is over, remember it’s time to forgive and move on. It's time to heal. The misery of our poor homeland is that she was cursed with Wicked leaders (now and past) that abused her.
Somalia is being taken by Ethiopians for God sake, Wake the hell up.
Or Step aside and let the women do the leading, judging from the past they can't do much worse.

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ReaLdeaL

Wednesday, July 12, 2000 - 10:05 am
Anyone who disagreed with a dictator is Killed

Anyone who disagrees with Amedoeu is Stupid,

I can see a pattern here,

we have an internet warload who is so self righteous, arrogant and monotonous, he sees the World through a narrow tunnel vision.

Sxb you have the intelligence of a donkey and the I.Q of a Rock. To call you a Moron would be an insult to other Morons.

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what-a-joke

Wednesday, July 12, 2000 - 10:14 am
MEN YOU GUYS ARE KILLING ME, LOOOOOOOOOOOL

FAGASH HISTORY X , WHO IS GONNA PLAY THE ROLE OF SIAD ? LET ME GUESS,,, SHABBA RANKS !!!!!

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amadeou

Wednesday, July 12, 2000 - 06:39 pm
cheers somalis!

For now the advocators of SNM, the skirt wearers are all on the run and i, Amadeou, have some business to run, i guess it is about time to announce the result of this war words.

Ladies and gentlemen ....and the winner is the man of thought aaaaaaamaaaaadddeeoooouuu.

Now amadeou is at the stage and wants to take time to tell the audience how he won the war.

Ahmadeou: thank you! thank you. First of all,I want to thank here my Dad. my dad was the one that taught me a lot of wisdom and how to win a war. You see , i was not raised up by single mom like Dalmar and True-warior and their cousin Somali Historian who always need to be sympathized or baby sitted. To be a man, My dad told me i have to fight and accept the sequence.I don't have to start fight and whine later on how ruthless my opponent was and how he beated the hell out of me up. "This is how iidoors reason", he said. Nd he kept on "That is why they thought they could take the kings' crown and won't be harshly punished. how little do those iidoors understand".

And yeah! i was raised up to be born warior who don't expect any sympathy from anybody and that is why i am now dissing all those mareexaans--ilka yar- who are supporting me thinking i am belong to them ahahaha. Hell to them !. they supported me like i give a damn to marrexaan and ilka yar. I only hated iidoor's emotional blackmail and their weak reasoning.And it happened my encounter to iidoors here in the diaspora.

He, my dad, also told me that to deal with Isaqqs I should be a monster and demond. and to win a war even when i am single man, I have to destroy the examples and anology,my opponests made,like i did when i made Hitler like a normal guy- like the ali who lives next door. and blamed everything on jews.


I also destroyed all the reasons of isaqq whimps by using rethoric and powerfull words like skirt wearers community since i am the descent from the poets and i was raised up in the land where the poem is harvested like a crop .

And that was Holywood movie Faqassh History x which won the Oscar. and not to mention amadeou was playing the leading role and won the the best actor. the ****end****.

thanks for being my reader
NB please note amadeou won't be losing any more time on whimp community . He is on vacation.don't bother insulted him.

amadeou.

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madi.

Wednesday, July 12, 2000 - 10:31 pm
Let be gones be by gones.

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gurey1

Thursday, July 13, 2000 - 03:36 am
Asalaamu Aleeykum

NIN KHALDAN BAAD SOO XIRATEEN!!!!!!

Waxaan marlabaad idinka digaa in aad ogaataan in diinta islaamku aysan ogo leen in magacyada laysku qaldo waayo waa qish,siyaad bare waxa uu ahaa nin aan soomaamulin umada soomaaliyeed oo aan xataa dhulxaaqe kasoo noqon.wiilkiisii maxamed baa u yeeshay nasiib inuu noqdo madax weeyne.iska jira lagaa yeeli maayo siyaad bare waxaan kawadaa maxamed? diintu ma ogola in nin danbigii lasaaro naf aan wax geeysan aababa ha u ahaadee.waxaan idin leeyahay magaca saxa oo kadib murma maxamed siyaad bare dambiiluu ahaa iyo ma aheen.laakiin haku murmina siyaad bare si uusan aakhiro idiin dacween ale hortii oosan dhihin maxaan ba shay oo la iidulmiyay? nafina naf waxay ku dulmiday waalaga jari ilaahna waa cadil xog ogaal badane ah.jaahilnimo baan aloow kaa magan galay waakabaxay.

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ReaLdeaL

Thursday, July 13, 2000 - 08:36 am
Amedou your dad forgot to buy you a spell checker, The best gift he would have given you is English Grammar book.

Yeah you won the battle, just like Siad won the War. Now you are on the Run just like the Monster Siad. You must be one of his bastard Kids the Resemblance is striking

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big-brother

Thursday, July 13, 2000 - 10:47 am
Ahmedodo:(or whatever the hell your name is)

It was retards like you who destroyed our once beautiful Somalia. There is no point in reasoning with you since you can't even write in a clear and coherent manner. Look deep inside your demented mind and find out exactly why you get pleasure from putting people down (maybe it is a twisted homosexual fantasy since you seem to be obsessed with skirt wearing men. I personally think your a psycho-delusional maniac who doesn't know what the hell he's talking about(with multiple personalities might I add, Amadeo, true champion- see the similarities). But, that is only my opinion because you might actually be a skirt wearing transexual who gets his jollies from sitting in front of the computer and claiming internet supremecy. Let the people be the judge.

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Jeego

Thursday, July 13, 2000 - 12:47 pm
To all the Afweyne Spies.

How can anyone justfy Afweyne and his crimes is peyond me. are you people on speed?!

Something comes to my mind,How true Kaliif say about Maree-haan and I can ad to the Moor-yaan.

"Aduunyadan maraabaysoo murugtay oo xiintay
"Oo uu maree-xaan iyo moor-yaan Ukacay waa mashkilo weyn e
"Gardaradaan Mutuxan waa waxaan dagaal ka miistay

Trans..
"The world has turned its head
"Because the Mera-haan and moor-yaan riffraf have risen to power
How puzzling the though?!! Yes how puzzling the though?!! and look at Somalia now??????

You guys said Isaq' and Majeer-teen' have been proscuted for no other reason but being very successfull? how sick your!!

She

I know your like Umul or you don't care what other people have been through while you have been sipping Isbarmuuto, my people were being murdered,poisoned,raped by no other but their own goverment? now all you remember is Moor-yaan driving you out. She, I have been in exile while you were singing Afweynes Praises at ORYATEESHINKA.Welcome to the club!!!

I am ready to reconcile to all Somali people regerdles of tribe, but averyone should'nt forget how Maree-haan and Moor-yaan Abused Power and commited genocide to helpless civilians.

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sacad.

Thursday, July 13, 2000 - 11:26 pm
You all need to cool off and disregard this useless subject. Ina Siyad is gone so is his reign and whatever people accuse of him to have done. Let the man rest in his condition. And we must respect our marexan brothers. No one responsible for what someone else does.

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sweetie

Friday, July 14, 2000 - 06:53 am
Ten years without a government, and still not united why do you have to blame a dead man over ur stupid behaviours,ur all kill ur brothers, sisters,mothers& fathers in the name of tribe.now that he is gone why dont u unite? somalia will not be somalia without siad barre he is one hell of a hero in this millenium and the only president in history to unite the only unciviized,ignorant,babaric human species in the face of the world.Time has proved that without siad barre there is no unity without unity there is no somalia.May GOD Almighty bless his soul Ameeeeeeeeeeeeeennnnnnnn

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Zeki Al-yamani

Friday, July 14, 2000 - 09:57 am
Sweetie Stupid

How can God bless the soul of the man who killed 10 wadaad (religios pple) in 1 morning.
Ma ninkii quraanka diiday oo buuga Lennin iy Marx qaatay baad leedahay God bless his soul....Siyaad haduu Jano galo wax naarta galaya aaba iska yar.

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Anonymous

Friday, July 14, 2000 - 10:35 am
Siyad did not kill 10 wadaad for the heck of it. There was a fundamental reason behind it, he killed them for the name of equality. Every open-minded Somali was aware of it. Naga daa kitaabka yar aad nagu cabsiineeysid. This is the twentieth century man, wake up and open your eyes. Siyad was a hero and he implemented what no other Islamic leader could ever dream of it.

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ReaLdeaL

Friday, July 14, 2000 - 11:52 am
If you tell me Siad is Alive and he lives in some government housing projects in Columbus, Ohio. I would believe you !

Siad in Heaven ???????? Who are you Kidding !

He be chilling with Biggie and Tupac !!! He Must be In Gangster Paradise !


Say what !

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Muslim-brother

Friday, July 14, 2000 - 01:27 pm
Please brothers and sisters lets end this topic because it only breeds hate. We need to educate ourselves. Let Allah be the judge.

AND YOU DONT HAVE TO LOOK FAR FOR EDUCATION JUST OPEN YOUR QURAN AND READ.

ALLAH SAYS IN SURA AL-HUJURAT: Sura 49: V:10-13

"Believers let no Man Mock another Man ! who may perhaps be better than himself. Let no woman mock another woman ! who may perhaps be better than herself ! Do not defame one another ! nor call another by nicknames. It is an evil thing to be called a bad name after embracing the faith. Those that do not repent are wrong doers !

We have created you from Male and Female and made you into Nations and tribes !! , so that you may get to know one another, Not that you may despise each other ! The noblest of you in Allah's sight is the most righteous. Allah is all knowing and wise" end of quote.

So my brothers and sisters in Islam please make the effort to at least read this Sura for Yourself. Educate yourself and fear Allah. Do not hate other Muslims or your fellow Somalis Regardless of Clan. That is plain ignorance. jahiilnimo is your Enemy. Fear Allah.

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Muna

Friday, July 14, 2000 - 02:15 pm
Muslim Brother,

Jazakallahu Kheyran

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darwiish

Friday, July 14, 2000 - 02:46 pm
Siyad Barre indeed did a great harm to our people. But whatever he did is nothing compared to what mooryan and snm did to our people and our country(I'm not talking about 'qabiil'). Mooryan simply destroyed the entire structure of the country de-assembling factories and selling them abroad, digging up electrical lines and exporting the wires, burning the commercial and private farms, iwm. SNM tried to inflict a worse pain which somalis would have never recovered from:they tried to divide our nation forever.
These two evil forces have put our nation into a dark hole which threatens our very existance as nation. Siyad Barre whatever he did has never threatened our very existance.

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Sahra

Friday, July 14, 2000 - 07:32 pm
Darwiish:

Your argument seemed to have made alot of sense until you stated "Siad Barre never threatened our very existence". How could you say that knowing full well that Siad Barre tried to wipe out an entire clan family, the Isaakss. It is a known fact that the SNM initally only represented a sub-clan of the Isaak family who protested the resettelement of Ogadani refugees in North Western Somalia. Only after Afwene started targeting civilians was the SNM widely accepted by all Isaak people. Although I dont agree with us separating from the rest of Somalia I think it is easy to understand why alot of my fellow clansmen would think that way. It will take time for the Isaak people to trust any central government so I would suggest that the rest of Somalia give us time to get over past grieviances so that we could estabilish the trust needed for us to reunify with the rest of our Somalian brothers and sisters. But, for know let us be and let bygons be bygons because we all have to coexist with each other someday. I think it is a derogatory term to refer to people as mooryans and it is also unacceptable to say that the SNM is trying to destroy the unity of Somalian people because alot of us dont want to seperate from our Somalian brothers so get your facts straight buddy. I hope you dont take any of this personel because I didnt mean to be so hard on you, alot of thinks you wrote made me very upset but at the same time you had alot of good points so lets just leave it at that. peace!!!!!!

aslama ahlaykum

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Abdul.

Friday, July 14, 2000 - 08:13 pm
I am sorry for the ignorance on my part and for offending anyone. May Allah forgive us All. May Allah Restore Peace and Dignity to our Nation and Our People.

I leave you in Peace.

Thanks Muslims brother.

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somali-brother

Friday, July 14, 2000 - 10:18 pm
Let me finish the good advice of our muslim-brother with the prophet's sayings scw:


"Do not envy one another; do not inflate prices one to another; do not hate one another; do not turn away from one another; and do not undercut one another, but be you, O servants of Allah, brothers. A muslim is the brother of a muslim: he neither oppresses him nor does he fail him, he neither lies to him nor does he hold him in contempt. Piety is right here-and he pointed to his breast three times. It is evil enough for a man to hold his brother muslim in contempt. The whole of a muslim for another muslim is inviolable: his blood, his property, and his honor."

related by Muslim.

Walaalaha not only are we supposed to be brothers in islam but it is forbidden from us to despise each other, to denegrade each other, to bad mouth each other. O' you my somali brothers and sisters stop this nonsense of self-hatred and your promotion of distrust between each other. What do we have after so many years of civil war and still the country is in limbo held hostage by hooligans?. I tell you, if we follow Islam trully nothing would have happened. If you want to blame anybody blame yourself and start with how you feel towards other somalis. O' you my somali brothers, when do we stop despising ourselves and denying some of our brothers their dignity and equality to us?. Revisit your religion and hear well what the prophet has said sallallahu caleyhi wasallam about equality and piety in his last sermon.

"O People, listen to me in earnest, worship Allah, say your five daily prayers, fast during the month of Ramadhan, and give your wealth in zakat. Perform Hajj if you can afford to. All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab, nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over a black, nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is the brother of another Muslim, and that Muslims constitute one brotherhood. Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow Muslim unless it was given freely and willingly. Do not, therefore, do injustice to your selves."

Aan is jeclaanno oo keenna lunsan wax ha u sheego keenna hagagsan, keenna aqoonta yarna ha kaalmeeyo keenna aqoonta badan. Joojiya self mutillationkan aad waddan oo aad ka buuxiseen forumsmada iyo is naceybakan. Waxaad joojisaan been abuurka aad ku been abuuraneysaan qabiillada soomaaliyeed ee ilaahey intuu nasabka ka dhigey aad idinka nasabnimada ka qaadeysaan. Ilaahey waxaad uga cabsataan dadka aad wax ka sheegeysaan idinkoo og inaadan ka fadli iyo caqli badneyn. rasuulka ilaahey wuxuu yiri: " Ilaahey ma eego jirkiinna iyo suuraddiinna ee wuxuu eegaa quluubtiinna " ee nin waloow adiga dib isugu noqo oo eeg waxaad tahay. War daoow goormaad baraarugeysaan oo ad joojin doontaan qabrigan aad gacmihiinna ku qodaneysaan oo aad dad kale ku eedeysaan? War walaalyaal ogada inaad dhimman doontaan oo qabriga la idinku weydiin doono waxad ka qabateen somalinetka iyo waxaad ku qorteenba. War dadyohow ilaahey ka cabsada oo ka daaya meesha wax yaalaha aad wax isugu dhimmeysaan ee keena colaadda iyo is naceybka.

wassalaam. waa wiil walaalkiin oo idin leh iga raalli ahaada iina soo duceya. Dhammaantiin ducadiinna ayaan u baahanahay ee ilaahey dambi dhaaf iyo khaatumo wanaagsan iiga soo barya. waad mahadsan tihiin in advance.

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gurey1

Saturday, July 15, 2000 - 01:57 am
Asalaamu Aleeykum

iska booba caamada koley wayga bada teene!!!!

Waxaan mar 3 xaad,idin xasuusinaa inaad ku dambaabteen adoon aan wax idiin geey san,kaas oo ah siyad bare.gaalada ama kuwa sheegta ilaahnimada waa yuhuuda iyo indho biliil ayaa ilmaha uguu yeera sitoosa magaca aabaha ama awoowaha ayagoo katagaya kan ilmaha loobixiyay.wixii sidaa raacaa waa ehelka jaxiima.muslimku waa diiday arinkaa minjaxaabinta ah ee lagu baa bi inayo adoomada ilaaheey.MADAX WAYNIHII UDANBEEYAY JAMHUURIYADA DIMUQRAADIGA EE SOOMAALIYA AHAANA XOOG HAYAHA GUUD EE XHKS JAALE MAXAMED SIYAAD BARE manoola maanta.waxaan qabaa inaad xaq uleedihiin in ninkaa kor kuxusan aad sheegtaan wuxuu dhib geestay,hadana aad sheegtaan wuxuu wanaag geestay,sababtoo ah waxa uu ahaa madax wiinihiinii .waxaase liibaanay caqlibadane ka gaabsada danbi iyo waxa uuna xog ogaal u aheen oo dareema in laxisaabin nafwalba waxay geeysatay.waakabaxay

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Dhakalaf:-I think saying he was like a black Hitler is just some way to get the attention but no more...!

Saturday, July 15, 2000 - 06:21 am
We must observe certain facts. Firstly, when Siad Barre came to power he was welcomed by all the Somali regardless and that was a mistake. When he killed the Imams the ordinary ppl did not move or say nothing though he was until then good as a president. Then the Majeerteen clan started SSDF in order to gain power because the previous president was Majeerteen and was killed by Majeerteen. After that Siad Barre started to act aggressively and surrounded him self by three clans of •••••••: Marreexaan(his clan), Dhulbahante and Ogadeen. That was reaction to the SSDF movement. Siad Barre was a real bad man in a way and everyone wanted him out but what we have to admit is:
1) He did not make any genocide at all. If you say he did you have to get the prove.
2) SNM killed civilians of Dhulbahante and Warsangeli tribes as well as ••••• civilians but Siad Barre never ever wanted to wipe them out. But ••••• people always claim that their rights are lost and so on. ••••• people killed among them selves after the death of Siad Barre more than those who died in 1988 war. Mr. C/raxmaan Tuur(Goobbe) has said in an interview with the BBC that, "Ina Cigaal wuxuu naga dilay intay Siad Barre dawladiisii naga dishay ka badan". Another point is that the ••••• militia(SNM) when it started killing people from other tribes because they were not on their side, this triggered the other tribes to fight them(Dhulbahante and Warsangeli) which was worse than fighting with the government.
3) When Siad Barre left what happened? •••••• clan malitia headed by Caydiid started Killing, raping and doing all sorts of things which has never known within the Somali ppl against ••••••• first which did not last for long, then against peacefull Digil & Midhifle clans and lastly against themselves. There is no way to compare the small crimes that Siad Barre had commited to those which commited by most of •••••• clan ppl because the one who does the act and the one who agrees on it and pays money for are the same. I think saying he was like a black Hitler is just some way to get the attention but no more...! I hope no is offended, and if any is offended I am sorry and please either email me or post your replay politely.


Thank you,
Dhakalaf

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Darwish_the_2

Saturday, July 15, 2000 - 09:34 am
I think Dhakalaf made good points. Thanks Dhakalaf.

Sahra:
First let me say to you you are the only issak that tried to make sense so far. When debating Issaks are well known to come up nothing but whining and emotional blackmail like 2 year old baby blackmails his/her parents as Amadeou pointed out many times. They are well known to threat that we secede from Somalia as Somlia will lose a lot.

Now let's come to where your arguement lost its direction. You whrote:

"It is a known fact that the SNM initally only represented a sub-clan of the Isaak family who protested the resettelement of Ogadani refugees in North Western Somalia."


Hmmmmmmm what a phucking pure lies!. For your info madam, SNM struggle to scede from Somalia was not the first attempt that issaks tried to. Please read the history. In Hargeysa 1964 there was a failed coup. It is known XASAN KEYD's coup. Xassan keyd tried to capture Hargeysa and then all somaliland to secede. And he was not alone in the idea. In fact, he had the support from those Habar legends( habar jeclo, awal, younis etc). Ask your dad if he is alife. Not only that dear.

Do you have any clue how SSDF came to being?. you may ask what SSDF has to do with SNM and issak. Well dear it does. SSDF started after 1977 coup led by Caynaanshe failed and Cabdulahi Yususf become fugitive!. Basically, the story goes somewhat bunch of high rank officials from issak and majeerteen wanted to overthrow the goverment.
Caynaanshe what the mastermind of the coup. And caynaanshe was Issak. Caynaanshe , ciro and many other were executed by the goverment after their plot was discovered. But Cabdulahi yusuf escaped to Kenya. And that was how SSDF started--an idea originted from issak man(caynanshe).

So you see the history is written. It was 1964, 1977 and 1980s that issacks are lunching war against somali central goverment. it is three times that they are trying to getteh power--three strikes and you are out !. Thus you arguemnt is canceled. and let me tell i personally believe issacks shouldbe left alone. They bring somalia more harm than any good. Tell me what resources that Somalia will lose if issak secede. issakland doesn't have much resources. No great land for plantation, no patrol. i guess it is you guys realize you need somalia more than somalia needs you.


Darwish_the_2

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Anonymous

Saturday, July 15, 2000 - 11:53 am
Darwish
Ceynaanshe was with Salaad gabeere and Cabdulqaadir dheere in a 1972 coup.
He was executed long before 1977.

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Isaq/Darood GurL

Saturday, July 15, 2000 - 03:08 pm
michigan u twisted bastard! Its sad muthafuckers like u who make it harder for ppl like me[and other decent Somali's] to move forward. What are you gaining from a tribal battle? What pleasure is there? None what so ever so why are you triflin'? Lady Luck my sister ur comment has to be one of the wisest out here. I am feelin' all of what u said. As a marexaan person many people associate me with Siad Barre. I feel sick when they do this because he was a black Hitler, and to some extent like Mussolini. He is NOTHING to do with me, never met him in my life and alxamdu lilah for that.
My father was a Marexaan man but my mom is Isaq and I have many issues because of my mixture. However, there is one thing that will remain the same always and that is my love for all Somali people regardless of their qabiil. Can't we learn from our mistakes and move forward instead of moving backwards?, as we currently are!
Abdul I agree with you because it is ALLAH and only he who can bring Somalia/SomaliLand back up on its feet, if it were ever standing in the first place?
Instead of feuding and fighting we should realise that we are all Somali people and should turn to our deen and keep a tight grasp of it. We must not divide our country and our people because if this happens then how on earth are we going to return to a state of stability? If the homeland is divided I believe that never again will Somali be a strong country. That will be the beginning of our downfall and will lead to destruction and a major feeling of friction between the North and South.
May ALLAH help us as Somali's and as individuals and may we help our damn selves!!!

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Anonymous

Saturday, July 15, 2000 - 07:25 pm
AMEEEEEEEEEEEEN!!!!

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Amadeou

Sunday, July 16, 2000 - 01:54 pm
Damn it!. And God how much I hate when some mutherfuckers come here to preach hypocrisity. I just hate it. "Let us move on" is the only f-cking word they offer.

Listen up you are mutherfuckers out there,whom i guess are bastard daaroods who are preaching islam, where is this Islam-brotherhood you are preaching when thousands of Somalis are killed, robed and raped?. was it pre-Islam?.

Many of you bastard daaroods said your men are killed, your women raped, your property robbed and you were driven your homes by hawiyes and issaqs. And you sugested the best way is "to move on".


i say fine mutherfuckers!. But the irony here is day in and day out i see those murders , robers and rapists( hawiyas and issaqs) are comming here whining that daroods were this and that. And making you, daaroods feel guilty.

However,In the world of sanity one wonders why the victim will forgive and assailant will not.One wonders why everywhere one goes one will see a stupid daarrood whose muther is raped, his/her probery is robbed and his/her home driven advocating for Islam-brotherhood. One wonders why daarrood is advocating for peace and reconciliation and hawiyas and issaqs will refuse it.

Forgiveness is good and probaly is one best deed in Islam. But why bother when your assailant is not showing resmorse and thinks you are begging him/heer ?. But I guess it is about time that daaroods will observe some facts.

they should realize that they are the victims of somali civil war in both the south and north fo the country.
they were driven both from south and north(burco and ceerigaabo). And Simply there is no land that is belong to hawiya or issaq which is not under their, hawiyas and issaqs' hands.But there are a lot when it comes to daaroods. at least 30% of Mogadishu properties and southern towns were belong to daaroods. And nearly they all lost them. In Burco and Ceerigaabo Wersangeli and Dhulbahante was driven out their homes.

So who is the victims here?, simply daaroods. who is advocating for peace and Islam_brotherhood?, simply daaroods.
And why the peace is not coming?, simply the defeated daaroods are beggging their assailants -- hawaiyas and issaqs who don't want peace. or else if they want peace, they don't want a defeated people, daarrood, get same share as they, hawiyas and issaqs, get. That is why late Aydiid was saying "I only belive SPM,ogaden faction in among daarods "whenever the negotiating table is sat.

That is why daaroods will never get their fair share even when they accept the smallest share of next goverment.


So you wonder what is the solution here?. It is simple, Daarrood bastards should stop advocating the f_cking peace and Islam_brotherhood.And advocate for war and daarrood unity. Let's change the situation. Let's prostant this F_cking somalism because it doesn't work. I personnaly tired of it.

You may ask, why war? simply to get a peace.It is all comes down to mental games. Let's stop being "nice "guys attitude.

It is time to change the f_cking tables and look peace through other ways. this beggin is not working. Hawiyas and Issaqs understood that we were defeatedand we are begging them.

You all can call me, incider, clanist,bastard, dumb ,ignorant, moron and probably I can be one.

But hey to me that is the where it goes. And here is where i stand. And soon i get my idea will get support any reasoning daarrood bastards out there. I am not ashaming waving daaroods flags.

NB please note any daarrood bastard wants to suggest otherwise should come up good convincing argument. And please note "wacdi" isn't allowed here since "hawiyas and issaqs" don't accept wacdi.


amadeou.

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Xoogsade

Sunday, July 16, 2000 - 05:32 pm
Maxamed Siyaad Barre, the Secretary-General of the Somali Revolutionary Socialist Party is standing at the gates of hell:

Jaalle Siyaad has just been told that he has been sentenced to hell and would be given a choice of Socialist hell or Capitalist hell.

Siyaad replies: give me the socialist hell because sooner or later there is gonna be fuel shortages....ha ha ha, uproarious laughter and much tigh-slapping..

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Xoogsade

Sunday, July 16, 2000 - 05:33 pm
Axmedeey:

Nin waalan baad tahaan u malaynayaa

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amadeou

Sunday, July 16, 2000 - 08:15 pm
....and this hawiyas webmaster bastard removed my last article. I say fine hawwiye bastard. Sooner or later my idea of daarroods stopping beggin hawwiya and issaqs and advocating for bogus islam-brotherhood will be fully spread.and it will get a support no matter how many article you remove.

And guess what ? being a computer guru i will f_ck up all your f_cking programming rules.
let the game begin!


amadeou.

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ladyluck

Sunday, July 16, 2000 - 09:25 pm
Amadeao:

I have no idea how to respond to the bunch of lies and hypocrisy you just wrote. At first you seemed to have been making some sort of twisted sense and then you totally contradict yourself. Your irredentist rhetoric wont win you any new friends. I dont know what you are trying to advocate here but the only thing that is obvious is that you have no morals and no respect for either yourself or your people. Feel good while the attention lasts because this will be the last time i'll acknowledge your stupidity with an answer.

Isaq-Darood Gurl

I'm glad that someone is listening to what i'm saying. It's bastards like amadaeo who divide and instigate our people. Although both my parents are Marexan we live in a mostly Isaq and Majeertane neighborhood. Most of my best friends are members of these two clans and it is through them that I first learned the plight of their clansmen in the hands of Siad Barre. It is also through them and my parents that I learned forgiveness and reconciliation is the only way forward for all Somalian people. Perhaps one day all of our Somalian brothers and sisters will put an end to their petty feuds and embrace each other as a people united by race, ethnicity, culture and most importantly religion.

aslamu alykum

yours truly ladyluck

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She

Monday, July 17, 2000 - 06:01 pm
Jeego,
First of all mooriyaan didn't chase me out of Somaalia iskeygaan uga soo tegey b4 the civil war........Secondly, geesigii i dhaley didn't like Siyaad or xulufadiisa so I was not allowed to praise Mudane Af bilaar when i was younger...


So who is your ppl? ••••• or the rest of Daaruud markii laga reebo mareeexaan?
If yes I believe dabka waxaa shideybo oo uunka isku laayey inay ayaga ahaayeen oo moriyaanta indhaha u furey nasiib daro last minute dhexdooday ka tafatey....bottom line is godkii siyaad loo wadey we know wixii ku dhacey......pls correct me if i am worng.....


Wa bilaahi towfiiq---------->

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Amadeou

Monday, July 17, 2000 - 07:07 pm
LadyLuck:

I thought you and i had a done deal--not address me in your sanity. But here you go putting your nose where it is neither belong to.

your wrote:

"I have no idea how to respond to the bunch of lies and hypocrisy you just wrote. At first you seemed to have been making some sort of twisted sense . ".

Right on babe! you thought deffending Siyad Barre i shoulld have been ILka-yar.Right?.
Read again i did this coz i just hate iidoors cheap reasoning.

And yes you are right according to your easy layered brain structure that only understands one should be ilka yar in order to be pro siyad.

you wrote:

"and then you totally contradict yourself."

Right on babe ilkayar! also here. I contradicted myself coz i dissed Ilka-yar.Rihgt?. hmmmmm.
tell me you that what you don't know babe ilka yar is it was only two inched brain that was playing silly games on your pshych . And i, amadeou, never being pro Ilka-yar. How I can pro ilk yar when everyone know what the history of those savages.


You wrote:
"it's bastards like amadaeo who divide and instigate our people".

I swear to Almighty supreme, in my sanity, i never thought that one IlKa-yar would dare or has the gutts of comming here and preach somali unity !!!.

Lo and Behold!!! what a corrupted world!. Oh god please don't let the damn world be down on me!!!

Where in the world am I we?. am i reading this after my death?. since when the world turned to this?. when Ilka-yar would blame others for somali division?. damn it.

I rest my case!.


Amadeou "you wonder what the world coming to when you see satan pretending to be saint and wolf in sheep's shirt".

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She

Monday, July 17, 2000 - 08:32 pm
Who is this ilko jiir/ ilko bariis guy every body is talking about?

Amadeou U must be qolooyinkii qoxootinimada noo bilaabey ee abaarta saadaliyey Caga dhuudhi/ caga yare?

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Michigan

Tuesday, July 18, 2000 - 08:19 am
hey who is winning da battle.... i bet isaq pple.....cam'on reer mareexaan i know u could do better!........show me what u got....or better yet show isaq pple what u got.......was Siad Barre black hitler.......i wonder.....

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Mr

Tuesday, July 18, 2000 - 09:12 am
Assalaamu Alaikum,
To Michigan:
I wonder what your motives are? Boodhka ha isku qarin! Let us know your agenda behind this tribal diatribe!
To answer your question, M.Siyad Barre PBUH is not the black hitler of africa but more appropriately LUCIFER HIMSELF.

To Amedeou:
Don't lose yourself defending Afweyne, unfortunately for you he is dead. Let him rest in peace.

To She:
You are one confused individual. No further comment.

To LadyLuck:
It is too late to preach patriotism, unfortunately your UNCLE has murdered it tenfold. You cannot resuscitate it, thanks to your uncle our social fabric has been contaminated. Just take a look at BLACK AMERICANS in NORTH AMERICA, they don't have a neclues family because of their past. In the same token, due to the drama he caused Somalis are no longer SOMALI, they are REER X REER Y REER W; thank you, thank you and thank you to Mr BARRE.

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The Truth

Tuesday, July 18, 2000 - 03:01 pm
It is crysal clear the damage done on the minds of nomadic african tribes by the White people.
It seems that everything that the somali nomads use is based on white culture.
By equating siad barre to Hitler is just an example of the damage done on the minds of the horn of africa nomadic tribes.
Before you guys go on and on... Could you tell me who Hitler was? What did he stand for? and where
did he got the might that allowed him to conquer so many places?
I want real answers? Not the answer given by hitlers former adversaries, who happen to own some of your ancestors.

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Jeego

Tuesday, July 18, 2000 - 08:43 pm
She ileeyn towfiiq baad ka timid!!!!
Conspiracy?

Do you believe UFO or Elvis is alive stop watching The X-Files and you will become les paranoid?

Amadeou

I disagree when you defend Afweyne and his spies who are responsible all this mayhem we are facing in Somalia, Afweyne and rest of Somalia wanted to finish Majeer-teen, and every other tribe was 100% behind him or precipitated the genocide?
We are not going to forget or forgive that.
Peace! you must be joking!!!

I agree with you 100% about the Daroo-ds but who are they? Tell me where were you before?

Lady luck

Do your mother and father want to get away the crimes they comitted against innocent and what they looted without down-peyment? I hate porn-again's. did you ever hear "look before you leap. the Judgment day is comming and its going to happen in this world.

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pro-Amadeo

Tuesday, July 18, 2000 - 11:20 pm
I must say Amadeo is winer for another oscar

I'm not hardliner Darod like you but I share some of points you made.

Moryaan said Darod wuu nagu maystay, when? Isaq said not SNM but was Darod who drived us home what about SNM herous did to shacabkii Burca iyo Hargaysa degenaa?
those who lost the most are Darod hadana siduu heshiiska Carta qeexayo waa inaan magdhow bixinaa, first Moryaan unbaa noqonkara madaxwayne , ra'isul wasaarana Isaq, Darodna biya tooni.
none wants peace except us although we live peace and prosperity. waxay ilatahy laxba meesha ay isdhigto ayaa lagu qalaa ee Amadeo nobody can/could beat you if you not beat/beated yourself.

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Cabdulwaaxid

Sunday, July 23, 2000 - 02:29 am
Asalaamu calaykum
You people! no need to tell us what Maxamed Siyad was, but why do you compare between Maxamed Siyad and Hilter?
Because you are "Baqbaqaani" the bird which repeats whatever you tell it.You eat cornflakes and you just listen western media.
Hilter killed millions of Kuffar including Jews.
"Lafo Maroodi waa la isku jabshaa, Marka maxaad ka rabtaan hadii uu noo qabtey shaqo adinka iyo awoowayaashiina aysan qaban bal qaarkiin awoowayaashood gaalada madiidin u ahaayeen.Hilter isaguna gaal buu ahaa oo Ilaahey waa noo cadeeyey waxa cadaaba oo uu gaalada u diyaariyey.Marka Hitler oo gaala gaalo buufiye adinku gaalo ha u gargaarina.

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harti

Sunday, July 23, 2000 - 07:03 am
the losers are xaweeye because they had everthing and they destroyed and daraood are winners except some idiot of mareehan and ogaaden and dhulbahante who were in the regime.
majority of workers were •••••• in the minstry and in schools.!
now darood ismaaciil are the majority in abroad and gues what most of ••••••• are in the mosque working hard,educating themself, building their country,alot of them are xufada go cedar mosque .
and haaweyya the some of them who are in abroad are qatt sellers illegal workeing,rapist and aven they opened night club in mn and most of party girls are xaaweyya
just go the mosque and you will see the different

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danot hate me dispise me

Sunday, July 23, 2000 - 11:41 am
harti

can't imagine you going to a mosque and having these hateful and ignorant feelings.I know u are..dirt majeerteeni with a little useless surooo....we isaaaq think all the race of somalis are dirt except..iisaaq..reer..qureeish.you go to mosque and u preach hate...?doooqoon

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Warsangali Ali

Sunday, July 23, 2000 - 10:10 pm
To all Edoor morons (Isaq people):

I am sick and tired of your whining and crying about what Siad Barre (the greatest man Somalia has ever produced) did to you. You cowards deserved every little bit of the ass-whopping you got. If I had my way I would have wiped out every last one of you rodents. Instead of whining, crying and looking for sympathy you should be thanking Siad for taking it easy on your sorry-asses. I am disgusted by the fact that Edoor bastards have the nerve to call the SNM a Hereoic movement. Those so-called hereos are the same cowards that systamically cleansed out 35,000 Warsangali men, woman and children from their ancestral town of Erigavo (looting, raping, and killing the whole way); and afterwards another 25,000 dhulbahante civilians from Burco. Can you people believe that the bastard president Egal is feeding the emotions and anxiety of the childish isaq people by telling them that they are a distinct and separate race from the rest of the Somali people (I agree they have a distinct and separate odour but anything more then that is just fairytales). To tell you the truth I wouldn't shed a single tear if those Edoor separated from the rest of Somalia I would be spared the burden of looking at their rotten smiles as long as the leave our beloved Sool and Sanaag. You ugly cowards with your ghat stained teeth and rotten odour will learn one day that staying in the Somalian confederency is in your best interest. Everyone knows that the Dreamland you ignorant Edoors claim is nothing more then a Isaq plot to claim hedgemony over minority clans. I hate to break the news to you but you Edoor have always been and will continue to be a distant second to the honorable darod people and amout of scheming and plotting shall ever put you on top so I suggest you get used to your current position
Therefore, may overall message to the Isaq people is leave if you wanna leave or stay if you wanna stay but dont bite off more land then you can chew
or the repercussions against you cowards will make Siads petty actions seem like another eposode of Sesame Street.

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dont hate me dispise me

Monday, July 24, 2000 - 07:17 am
warsangeli...lol...Doqooooon

iisaaq dont do that.They dont do all that darood and hawiiyo stuff.we are brilliantly educated.superior to somali race.LOL.Educated,good looking,and..more refined.Warsangeli are toooo darrrk..and ugllLLy.LOL.KEEP ON FIGHTING....WE'LL BUILD OUR NATION.LONG LIVE OUR MEN.....!!!!!

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cidagale

Monday, July 24, 2000 - 08:49 am
warsangeli, u r fool brother sorry to say this. somalia was diveded to safe from it-self. if u understand what i mean. during the SNM war all "daaarod" probably except few "majeerteen" were with siyad bare. so after the 91 "rogaal celiskii" if we were not to declare independent, all "isaaaq" wanted was revenge on "daaarod", "isaaaq" politicians were eager to stop this by declaring independent otherwise, the stupid in human thing "haawiiye" has done in south would also happened in the north. we diverted it. i think u must respect us of not taking revenge the day you were weak. indeed we were there the day u were in most need brother. we offered you peace and today u see the prosperity and the love among "daaarood" and "isaaaq" in that region. only some politicians are stupid to fued the fire again but most of the population are happy today. but its ver sad you as the few "warsengale" who have access to information technology talk like this, i think those in home are far better than you.

P.S "NABADU MUSLIN & GAALO WAA U GO'AL NASTEEXAAD"

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Xoogsade

Monday, July 24, 2000 - 01:09 pm
Warsangeli Cali:

Qabiilaysiga inaga daa inaadeer waa qudhun iyo wax laga fiican yahay.

Ciidagale:

Raggeedii baad tahay laakiin gabadhan waalan ninyohow u caqli-celi.

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Amadeou

Monday, July 24, 2000 - 05:32 pm
Xoogsade :

You are just f_cking weak. I see you bowing to iidoors, you son of the gun.Warsangeli Cali is one of those martial of fine race of men. I swear he is rageedii. and you, xoogsade, being just f_cking pussy. Will you stay away from this thread?. I hate seeing you bowing like you are praying to the SUPPREME!

Warsangeli Cali.

I swear you are the best. After review, your work was rated *****(fives stars)by the great man ahmedou. Yeah! it gets ten out of ten from my books. You are the only one that can whip iidoor asses out here. Your english and facts you demonstrated were both execelent man. Keep on whipping those weak asses. and keep the peace.


Ciidagale:

Like i do believe your f_cking weak reasoning. Hahahahah man marada xajiso! your ass is fully naked here waana lagu geyaaye.

You wrote in shaky way:

"we diverted it. i think u must respect us of not taking revenge the day you were weak.".


waryaa ila qosla hhhmmmm! i wish if i can believe such crap. Tell me daba canyuuq, why did you capture Ceerigaabo and daarrood farms and refused to give back even today?. Tell me why you over ran Gudubiirsay and you guys captured Boorame in week in 91, if you wanted peace?


let's face some truth here. shall we? You took any revenge that you could take. You chased out the minority daroods community who used to live Burco and ceerigaabo. You looted their properties. Be men and Admit it, you saveges. the only thing left for you was to go the heart Dhulbhante and Warsanglei land.

And your best bet is you couldn't do that. you were afraid of your asses. I swear it is not the culture of iidoors to leave any weak person that they can hurt. The only thing that stops iidoors is fear. And that is what is stoping you to wage a war against dhulbahabte and warsengli.That is it!. keep on preaching lies like we listen!
ahmdeou.

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maxamed

Monday, July 24, 2000 - 06:09 pm
ciidagale how many iidor are in north america and how many warsangeli then we will know who have more access to the new technology!!!
am in minnesota and one sub clan of warsangeli are more than all iidors!!!

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Warsangali Ali

Monday, July 24, 2000 - 11:03 pm
Amedeou:
I am glad there is still one reasonable and assertive Darod person left in this forums who hasn't been brain-washed and hypnotised by pathetic Edoor reasoning. Believe me brother you are among a steadily declining group of Darod men who have shrugged off the Edoor blindfold and decleared it is time we Darod people stand up for our land, woman, children and acknowledge our superiority over the obviously inferior Edoor and hawiya clans. We must accept our God given right to rule over all other Somalians because historically speaking, if it were not for such magnificant Darod rulers as Ahmed Gran, Mohammed Abdille Hassan and Siad Barre the very existence of the Somalian people would be jeapordised. The only thing I hate more then Edoor bastards are Darod trash who promote peace and reconciliation. How the hell can you forgot your stolen land, raped woman and killed relatives. Darod people must understand they are the ones who were victimized in both the north and the south, so if the aggressors dont want peace then any intelligent person should conclude that war is the only alternative in order to maintain a lasting peace. With that being said, let the Edoor ass-whopping start and we wont stop once you scream uncle because brutality is the only language you cowards understand.

Eidegale:
As you can clearly see I am not one of those foolish Darod men who can be brain-washed by cheap Edoor reasoning. Let me give you an example of how ridiculous your Edoor mentality is; you wrote, "Somalia was divided in order to save from itself". So, let me get this straight in order save the unity of a nation and preserve law and order you must carve it up into a thousand peices (hahahahahah now people know why I call you guys morons). You went on to say, "you should thank us for not taking advantage in your moment of weakness". O.K thank you for banishing my family from their ancestral land, thank you for raping my sisters, thank you for looting my home, thank you for killing my relatives, thank you thank you so very much (hahahahaha you should try out for stand-up comedy at least there you rideculous reasoning could be ammusing).

Dont hate me etc.....:
Believe it or not you are among my favorite Edoor bastards. At least you have the guts to show your true colours, instead of hiding behind a veil of hypocrisy and self-doubt but, thats all the credit you'll get from me. As I predicted you reverted back to the arrogance and ignorance you morons are known for. You wrote, "we are good looking, well educated and Warsangali are too dark and ugly" (hahahahhaha lol lol I beg to differ) I never thought I would see the day an ugly, ghat-stained, charcoal complexion, foul odoured Edoor pervert would utter those words knowing full well the way you bastards chase after our beautiful woman. Get this through you thick skulls, we Darod have always been and will continue to be the golden fleece of the Somalian race and no amount of Edoor or Hawiya scheming and conniving could change the will of God and any futile attempts to enact any contrary ends will be corrected and implemented by devine retribution. Until next time yours truly
Warsangali Ali

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Michigan

Tuesday, July 25, 2000 - 01:14 am
lol lol c'mon Isaak people amadeao and warsangali ali are doing a demolition job on you guys. Charcoal complexion ghat-stained teeth lol lol. I can't wait to hear an isaak response because that was a good oneeeeeee.

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dont hate me...dispise me..please

Tuesday, July 25, 2000 - 07:16 am
God ...xoogsade..u are goood.u now mascarade into warsangeli???i know its u wallahi...LOL...coward...anyway...iisaaq ar ethe best looking peeps out there.They are civilised educated and very much inclined into building the part of somali...somaliland...ok..LOL...and peeps xoogsade..is..warsegeli..just different name..LOL

obviously warsengeli are insecure about themselves.i think they are very ugly and dark and red theeths.i grew up seeing warsengeli..working for us as maids and ..servants men.i had low esteem on them and i still do.warsangeliiiiiiiiiiii...shaaax..sookaarii..LOL

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bootaan.

Tuesday, July 25, 2000 - 01:21 pm
dont hate me...dispise me..please:

I think you need to apologize to xoogsade. I haven't seen xoogsade insulting his fellow somalis. If he is anything, he is one hell of a true somali guy. I can tell he is not the one you mistook him to be. He is not that ignorant.

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Xoogsade

Tuesday, July 25, 2000 - 02:30 pm
Thanks brother Bootaan for your words of support. There is nothing wrong with supporting your tribe and learning the different tribes of Somalia. But dividing people along tribal lines for the purpose of fostering hatred is just wrong. Tribalism is one thing I absolutely hate. I pray one day we will be cured of it.

A friend of mine always teased me that my ideas were good in theory but that I would fall short in practice. So he gave me this scenario: Suppose you fell in love with a woman from another tribe that is deeply at odds with your own. Will you marry this lady? Suppose she was Midgaan or other tribes unjustly oppressed by Somalis? My response was I would marry her provided that I love her and she tests negative for Tribalism as well as HIV and other STDs.

Don't Hate me:

With the other one at least there were some coincidences to make the deduction credible but you goofed on this one. No more Sherlock Holmes. Even the bumbling Lestrade would have sniffed out that I am not Warsangeli Cali. For cryin out loud it was posted at four in the morning. The only thing I was doing at that time was snoring loudly. I work 9 to 5 so I have to get my sleep. And stop the tribal nonsense. Nowadays it doesn't even have the shock value it once had.

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Xoogsade

Tuesday, July 25, 2000 - 02:37 pm
Don't hate me:

btw, you don't have to call me god, I am just a human being like you, flesh and blood. It is very blasphemous.

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MAD MAC

Wednesday, July 26, 2000 - 12:02 am
OK I've got to get in on this. First, Amedou, are you nuts? You sound like a full-fledged Nazi. Not only was Hitlers crime against the Jews (Which, incidentally, was the catalyst for the American suport to establish a Jewish State) Barbaric in the extreme, he was also responsible for a war that killed some 50 million people. Ask the Russians what they think of ol' Uncle Adolf. They lost more than 20 million people to the Nazi invation which intended to exterminate them and repopulate the region with Germans. Ask the Poles or the Czechs what they think. The guy was an animal who was resonsible for the death of more than 8 times the total population of somalia.

As for the Siad Barre defenders. He was a self-agrandizing criminal. The record is plain to see. Siad Barre ruled in order to profit Siad Barre. He didn't give a hoot about the Somali people. His legacy is one of destruction, rape and murder. His rule was indefensible. He had a chance to be a positive influence in Somali history and he blew it.

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amadeou

Wednesday, July 26, 2000 - 05:09 am
Mad Mac:

Man you are playing with fire here. Please don't step into abbys ocean while you don't have enough life support to survive.
You said Hitler killed 50 millions. Ok yankee, on what purpose? hate? . Yes he killed a lot of people but it was not based on hate. It was based on power and expension. He wanted to conquor all Europe. And to me the death of 50 million Europeans is not such that bad compared to Africans and Asians, aporgines, and American natives, you motherfukers whites killed and slaved.

And tell me, what the 20 million Russians doing when hitler killed? how many soldiers Germany losted in that war against Russia alone?.
And tell me why Hitler had volunteers all over Europe if he was a monster?. Do you think a monser can get volunteers all over europe--forget in Germany i say all over Europe?. Do you thin i am simple idiot who fell for the Jews propganda that they are feeding the world while they are milking and the world?.

Go and get good reason next time you F_cking jews victim.
And about Siyad Barre, Dude admit you know nothing about him. You only know what your biased media told you. I know better you do.And
I am shocked by the fact that you even have the gutts of talking siyad Barre in front of us.

amadeou

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Anonymous

Wednesday, July 26, 2000 - 06:07 am
amadeou

oh please please please have a life. i'm on my knees begging..please.

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EnglishRose

Wednesday, July 26, 2000 - 08:31 am
GUYS GUYS GUYS....

Looks like U need Habaryar Isniino to woop yo little dhuxul buts in shape here.

Instead of taking a trip to fantasy land, non of you guys have a shred of decency to admit that S0MALIA went through a lotta bullsh*t 4 a long time. Here U R trying to portray your MANHOOD with the help of a KEYBOARD and a cheap Modem. If any of U are man enough-------->Go to Djbouti or Somali and play with the BIG BOYZZZZ. I am alergic to men like U who try to talk BIG in their K-Mart Pyjamas. TALK IS CHEAP

PEACE

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dont hate me dispise me

Wednesday, July 26, 2000 - 10:08 am
englishrose...lol

Inaa adheer,walaalo,macaaane, i am so happy u said that,this politician wanna be just waste our time to read these tempting useless comments.My only guilt is:i stick around and read them.can i find a cure for this?iil badanaa raaag iilahiyo ka diigee oo hadaal lee kuroreysaa?..kariimooo eeed!

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looooooL

Wednesday, July 26, 2000 - 10:43 am
K-Mart Pajamas and Cheap Modems looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

you really hit the Nail on the head !

this are the coffee shop warloads let them talk.

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MAD MAC

Wednesday, July 26, 2000 - 10:08 pm
English Rose
I'll be in Nairobi in September to grease the skids to do exactly that, go back to Somalia. Alas, I am tied to the US Army for four more years so you'll have to wait until then before you can watch me play with the big boyz.
Amedou
Put down the Muduf of Khat and read the facts about Nazi Germany. You can start with Hitlers own publication Mein Kampf. Hitler's actions for German expansionism are inexcusble. There is no honest intellectual defense. Even the Germans know that - I live in Germany. Five million Germans died in WW II. That is in all of the fighting and the air raids. Russian casualties were 7 million combat troops and 13 million civilians. Yes, Hitler was motivated by hate and by a desire to establish total hegemony over Europe. He connived alliances from weak states that he bullied. Volunteers to the SS from foreign countries were your typical mooryan assholes who were only too ready to join in the blood fest. Those kind of people exist in every country. You are making some sort of nonsensical claim that Hitlers obvious war of expansion and extermination is simply a product of Jewish propaganda - that's ludicrous. The fact is that he started a war of aggression that killed tens of millions of people. And if you think he was hard on the slavs, imagine what he would have done to Africans had he been successful in Europe.
Now as for Siad Barre (and please don't tell me the Jews had it in for him too), ol' Jalle Siad clearly ran the country for his own personal benefit and not for anyone elses. He fostered an environment that encouraged graft and corruption. In poor states, graft can cripple economic growth, causing governments to incur huge debts with nothing to show for them. Even if you argue he fought the SNM for legitimate reasons of state preservation, you can not argue with the fact that his security apparatus tortured and killed political opponents, that his regime was corrupt to the core and that he left Somalia a smoking ruin.
Finally, I gathered a lot of my information on Somalia from the mouths of Somalia - not the media. I lived in somalia in 92, 93 and 94. I saw first hand the legacy of Jalle Siad.

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Anonymous

Thursday, July 27, 2000 - 07:27 am
TO : AMADEOU,

ALL I CAN SAY TO YOU IS THAT YOU ARE SOME KIND OF SICK CRACK HEAD WHO DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL HE IS TALKING ABOUT.
YOU ARE AN IGNORANT BASTRARD.
LIKE MAD MAC SAID IF MR SIYAD BARE WANTED TO BE COME SOME KIND OF SOMALI LEGEND HE HAD THE OPERTUNITY, BUT HE FAILED AND THAT IS SIMPLY DUE TO THE FACT THAT HE WAS ONLY AFTER HIS PERSONAL INTEREST AND THE INTEREST OF HIS OWN CLAN.
WE KICKED HIS ARSE EVEN THOUGHT HE HAD A STRONG MILATARY CAPABLILTY, SO DON'T FUCKING EVER MESS WITH US BOY.

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She

Thursday, July 27, 2000 - 01:48 pm
Mr what is your problem? ma waxaad diidan tahey in ay qabiilo badan ka dambeeyeen in qalabakii Siyaad Barre? if that is so there is something u should know bro odayaashii Hawiiiye iyo daaaruuuuuuuud ee la laayey haba u badnaadeen Majiiirteen in ayaa sheekada ka dambeeyey....

You ppl where always reer x,y and z long b4 Siyaad........

Jeego/Kulmis,
It is your munaafaqad that made u fugitive do not blame Siyaad Barre....What do u mean by towfiiq baad ka timid? Conspiracy my foot how many times do I have to tell ya my family was not pro-Siyaad?

By the way I don't believe in UFO or Ghosts as a matter of fact I don't have a place for The big guy him self let alone this little xasharaad UFO, Elvis etc......
But I loooooove watching X-Files show and I think that David Duchovny guy is Smashing!

Mad Cow Man!
Siyaad Barre was a good Man period....
Where U in Somalia when Siyaad Barre ruled? NO
Now spare me that hear say thing bro and Mahadsanid......

Yow Amadeo I thought u was one of those cagodheer man that is why I called u cagadhuudhi ileen dhudhutiyoow dhul baa laga dhacey....Give it a rest man dhulka Somali weyn buu ka dhexaya e..peace if I misundrestood!

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Xoogsade

Thursday, July 27, 2000 - 01:53 pm
nothing for me? ohhhhhhhhh....

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caaggane.

Thursday, July 27, 2000 - 09:58 pm
Freaks.

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EnglishRose

Friday, July 28, 2000 - 01:36 am
MAD MILLITARY BOY......
U marrieds yet to that Thai Takeaway?..No offence..It's me....Guess....U get a AK-47 if ya do...LOL

PEACE

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Cabaas

Friday, July 28, 2000 - 07:59 am
Every person has his +/- sides, so why you don't see others (criminals, warlords, mafia's) or you're defending them 'coz they are your qabiil?.

I think that Marxuum M. Siyaad Barre (alaha ha unaxaristo'e)was good president and patriotic when we compare with other african countries.

He did a good job for the counrty and he buried tha Qabill thing but unfortunately some others mainly among his cabinets dug it out.

I'm not Marehan, but I wonder why people get hurt when we talk the reallity. He did many many mistakes wich he might not do, but combaring him with other african leaders he is #1 believe or not. Every nation knows that he was a patriotic if he was not that he could have been sitting in power.

Some people critisize/offend him just because of he is from Mareehan. such these kind of poeplr I would say to "Man, wake'p!, cadifad yeey ku qaadin iyo qabiil qabiil".

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Xoogsade

Friday, July 28, 2000 - 12:30 pm
You must be one of the stupidest people alive

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Anonymous

Friday, July 28, 2000 - 12:44 pm
no xoogsade macaaane:

you are the stupidest person alive,LOL>>>>>>>

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Xoogsade

Friday, July 28, 2000 - 01:08 pm
You may have something there.......it wasn't always so I used to be smarter. But too many headed balls playing soccer have taken their toll. And now I am off to the park.......

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Warsangali Ali

Friday, July 28, 2000 - 01:21 pm
Xoogsade:
It has became clear to me that there is not a shred of patriotism in your veins. Cabas is one of those delightfullly unique characters of Somali men that are able to look past the cloud of lies and propaganda that surounds the life of Siad Barre (PBUH). In the beginning Siad was fighting on behalf of all Somali's for a strong a unified nation that consisted of all Somali lands. Rumours that Siad had personel vendettas against isaq and majeertane are nothing but Edoor propaganda. Siad brought peace and stability to the various warring clans of Somalia. He was fair, just and compromising. Siad tried his best to move Somali's forward and make them forget about the clan politics of the past. Unfortunately several members of his cabinet took advantage of their position as high ranking officials and advanced the clan agenda. A Hierarchy that was prodominately based on the MOD (Ogaden, Marexan and Dhulbahante) clans developed. Siad resorted to this to power-plan as a last resort and only because he knew that the isaqs and majertaane could no longer be trusted. During the golden years of his rule Siad undertook several economic projects, trying to improve the social wellbeing of the Somali people. These projects only stopped when the SNM harrasment became unbearable for the national government. That is the reason why it disgusts me when these Edoor bastards speak of human right violations and unfair government tactics when they are the most evil and conniving characters around. Thus, I hope I have proved to you that you dont have to be Marexan to appreciate the work of Siad and what he did for our country but rather any patriotic and self-respecting Somali could see that.
Signing off
Warsangali Ali

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bootaan.

Friday, July 28, 2000 - 06:59 pm
warsangeli Ali

I wonder if you could spend your energy on something more productive than this self-mutillation you are bent on continuing. If I get any idea from your hateful and degrading comments to other somali fellows, I can see why we are a lost nation as a whole. Whoever wants to understand why somalia is finished and will never be okey must look at your arrogance and your supposed betterness than others. If the somalis who are considered educated are these despicable and hateful to their own, why do we wonder at the camel herders who are supposedly building a nation ?.

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Amadeou

Friday, July 28, 2000 - 08:13 pm
Cabas:
thanks man. You made good and fair points. You see cabas one can argue that how somalis can be the most ungratitude on the entire planet earth
.

As you said,they all know it was only siyad barre who brought the social equality among somalis different clans. He tried to abolish somali cast systm(boon , midgaan, tumaal, etc). He passed laws that any somali who tried to practice this cast system can be brought to the court of law.

They all know it only was siyad barre who introduced the gender equality and improved women status in somalia.

They all know that it was siyad barre was who introduced the written somali language and tried to illiminate the illetracy.

They all know that Siyad Barre was the founder of the orphan colleges- "dhalinta kacaanka".


They all know that in 1974 drought it was Siyad barre who made the program of resetlement the affected nomadic people and made them skilled workers,farmers and educated them "sablaale, dujuuma , ayl etc.

They all know that it was siyad barre who introduced free education system till university where one need not to pay a peny.and all one needed was to study.no tuition fee, no rent, no food, no parking!.all fukcing free ride.

they all know that siyad was pan africanist who led two african countries to to their independence when he was the leader of AOU.

They all know that siyad barre was the biggest pan somalist ever who tried to unite the five somalis.

And you wonder why somalis are so ungratefull to this great guy!. and you know what? you will be wondering a lot if you would have known that the ones that are making the biggest noises here are the sons and daughters of Guulwayaashii, hooyooyinkii,ubahii kacaanka, NSS-tii, XHkS-gii,
the ones graduated from Somali National Univesity for free and didn't pay a peny back to the country, the ones that robbed our national resources and ran way to frogien lands, the sablaales, the orphans who had no fathers and mothers--wacaladii.

And each one of them is here shouting at the top of his/her lungs saying "siyad was monster".
i wonder when they will realize how much he was meant to them.
amadeou

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Amadeou

Friday, July 28, 2000 - 08:19 pm
Bootaan:
listen up dude. you have no any goddamned reason to attack Warsangeli Ali. He is here to put the damn records straight. If you are willing to admit the facts, he is only here telling you how Eedoors bastards harrass, robe and rape other somalis and then come here whining expecting their heads patted like 2 year old. Unless you are another stupid issaq under the hood--which of course you are, you would have seen how clearly he stated and outlined the damage that eedoors done to other somalis.

And of course the last thing warsangeli ali needs is some knuckle like you bitching at him or barking at him. And if you keep on doing it, man will you please note you are only barking to wrong tree.

amadeou

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bootaan.

Saturday, July 29, 2000 - 01:51 am
Amadeou.

>Unless you are another stupid issaq under the hood--which of course you are.

You are a very thoughtful man indeed. Your formula is based simply the idea that if someone is not willing to take part in your empty and insultful rhetorics about some tribes, that someone has to be one of them. Call that plain nomadic thinking. Looking for the signature of their families in people's thinking and ideas.

>you would have seen how clearly he stated and
outlined the damage that eedoors done to other somalis.

I have seen no angelic somali tribe. They all share the responsibilty of catastrophes across their lines. Pointing the finger to others continously as if that will solve their stupidity. They are all mentally tribalistic to a point where they feel they need to ask what is the tribe of the mosque leader, the doctor in the hospital, the guy who walks by, and the lady you talked to last night. You all make me sick. You can't even trust the sheikhs my freinds. They sometimes hold tribal sessions. I don't know what is in this madness of tribalism that the worst of the people and their best are equally interested. Perhaps I am an outcast and proudly interested in it. Just simple outcast.

>And if you keep on doing it, man will
you please note you are only barking to wrong tree.

What do you have in store for me?. Another wacal bad tahay and other womanly garbage?.

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SOM

Saturday, July 29, 2000 - 08:02 am
Sheekadii waxaa dhameeyay Amadeou indhihiina ka riday. waxaan dhaho garan maayo oo waxba iimuusan hambayn.
bastariinta IIDOOOR ma waxay filayeen in inta gabdhahoodii axmaaro hub kaga soo badasheen ka dibna la soo galeen magaalooyinkii somaliyeed si ay wadanka u kala gooyaan in la dhaafi lahaa.
siyaad barre had every right to punish those ignorant bandits.

on the other hand this theory of Hitler killing
millions of jews is a complete fabrication and far from the truth. its done by the world jewish congress.

one more time you pagan iiddoors if you cannot come up with a reasonable arguement to counter AMADEOU'S, THEN PLEASE DON'T MAKE YOURSELVES LAUGHING COWS.

NABAADIIN.

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MAD MAC

Saturday, July 29, 2000 - 02:32 pm
English Rose
Glad to see OPSODOS is back on the net. Can you now tell me what the heel OPSODOS means? And no, I have not married her yet, but I returned from Bosnia a little earlier than planned and we are living together (in sin - I know). And we have not ruled out getting married.

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dont hate me dispise me

Saturday, July 29, 2000 - 05:31 pm
is this iisaaq bashing room..you fuucking idiots....get ya self lives?//???God..where are our iisaaq men with bloood..alaa tolaaxiiyeeey!!hawiiyoo xuun iiyooo/......darooood quuruuun!

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dont hate me fear me

Sunday, July 30, 2000 - 04:57 am
dont hate me despise me:

Not only do I despise you I despise everything you stand for including your tribe, mom, dad, aunts, uncles, cousins, you get the point. You isaak motherfuckers cant take the fact that you are not as beautiful, resourceful, cunning and intelligent as darood people. That is the reason why we were always on top even in your own land and you iedoors are still emotionally colonised by darood because while you brag and boast about being stable we are building up our nation and waiting for the day we will go back to hargaisa and till you who is in charge. Until then keep whinning about the past darod unfairness there a lot more where that came from. AAAAHahahahhaha *a deep and evil laugh*

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Mr

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Assalaamu Alaikum

Dear dont hate me dispise me,
Sister, please don't be draged into this senseless exposition. I beg you, ignore the stench coming from this room and go on to doing better things. We all know the truth, there is no need to continue this futile excercise. Mr Barre was Lucifer himself, and all I wish for him is that he may rest in peace untill he meets his moment of truth. These lunatics can't save him from hell fire, so let them excrete through their mouths.

Wassalam Wa bilaahi Towfiiq

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Xoogsade

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Mr.

I fear as long as there are people who are blindly tribalistic then Siyaad Barre will have his supporters.

I can clearly see through the tribalistic motives of Amadou and Warsangeli cali and the others and have condemned them for it. But you seem to support this brainless, narcissistic bambi when she insults the entire Hawwiye and Daarrood Somalis. Or do you share her sentiments? Because if that is the case, then you are the one bringing the senselessness in here, so go away and do your best to get lost.

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Darwish_the_2

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don't hate me;


Yes dearest this room is for bashing eedoors. It is place their asses being kicked and whipped. Yeah! and their butts bruised and if needed penetrated deeply. i know you are asking why? well dear as "The_truth" said it is eedoor culture to abuse or being abused. Now it is the later one. edoors run into trouble when they picked on daarroods. If they stay away from that and abuse others, daarroods will let eedoors ass off the hooks. and it doesn't matter if you cry for help screaming "tola ayeey" out loud. So don't wasteyour time crying "where is our men" when in fact your men are reduced into chickens. And believe I know how much it hurts,but ther is nothing i can do. you see "that is the way it is..something will never change". Edoor need to abused is something never change. daarroods will kick eedoor asses is soemhing that will never change. and that is way it is.
but being a female, you can stay from this war.
and that is the only sugggestion i have for you.

Darwish_the_2

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Xoogsade

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Kan dadkiisa nugleeya
Naafeeyoo kala tuuroo
Nabran aan is ogayniyo
Nacamlihii daba joogaba
Naxariista illaahiyo
Noloshu waa ku khasaaree
Yaa iftiinka ku naara

Mid Nabiib la yidhaahdo
Nuunaasoo se yaqaanoo
Nudub aan bogsanayni
Niyada ay kaga taalo
Ku nayaayira hoogga
Aan nasteexo aqqooninna
Naabaal yaa ku afuufa

Nabadda ruuxxa jeclaada
Ku naalooda wanaaga
Ee colaadda nebcaada
Isaga yaa u nimceeya
Yaa neecawda u daayoo
Nooloow yaa ku yidhaahda

Lama waayin naruuro
Nasiibkii ma dhamaanine
Nidaamkan aynu arkayno
Illaahoo nabsi dhaamiyo
Ina siiya natiijo
Neecaw khayr qabta keenoo
Nimco iyo barwaaqo
Sida naasihi hooyo
Dadku uu iska nuugiyo
Isu soo noqod fiican
Wixii nool ku duceeya

Quraankeena nabaa'i
Nisaa iyo tabaarak
Nasri iyo ikhlaaska
Naasicaad iyo leyliyo
Ku nuuxnuxsada diintoo
Inay neeftu baxayso
Rabbi loo noqonaayana
Niyadiina u sheegoooy

By Jaamac Kediye

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dont hate me ..please i insist...DISPISE ME.

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Hi Loosers,just came in from a long sweet weekend,and i'm exhausted.We have had a fantastic weekend with lots of fun.have you people ever been in valley fairs?or to the zoos?or had a nice dinner at a very nice iisaaaq restaurant.Sweet baariis with cooked red meat,red soup,mush potatoes and salad dish.I come here and see a bunch of FAQAASH pounding their disgusting darood rituals of babrbaric massacarre of general civilisations.See iisaaq are indisputably superior to somali race.First of all they are not emotional,they do not fight senselessly- ofcourse attributed to their superior educations status,mental I Q,and common knowledge of civilisation.We are people of north.And like every other Northern inhabitants of all nations of the world,they have distinct difference from the south.Examples:American.North america and south americans have humangous difference.The north fought with the south because,ofcourse,the south were practicing slavery.The north were industrial and educated,and look better,physiscally.Attributed to the cold climate,i guess,AND GOOD GENES.IISAAAQ HAVE GOOD GENES.I MEAN NO JAREER AND SLAVERY LOOKING FEATURES..You idiots darood are a bunch of loosers,with low I Q's but plenty of pride and surro.Just like the southern americans they always insist "Southern Hospitality".Puke!As far as iisaaq is concerned,we think Hawiiyoo and darroood are just other race who have a grudge against us because we have everything they dont have.Now i CAN sit here on my keyboard type intellectual arguement to drive my point,and hopefully convince the jury of the web room,but i wont.I think the facts speak for themselves.WE RULE!!!!!!!


xoogsade: shut up faqaash quuruun.balaayo madoow weyne.A bambi who is more smarter than you and can face you in debate any time,any venue,and any means,even if i have to put witness in witness protection to testify;you darood moryaans are ridiculous.•••• you!


Mr: thanx alot..this is my last piece of mind i'm going to contribute.I think i'm busy enough to listen to idIots coward horning their insecurities in highway web net.

darwish

considering your fragmatics form of expressions,i should dare say my morals bares no class in your distasteful propaganda.TEA TIME!!!!


DONT HATE ME FEAR ME

i only fear Allah Sub'hannah, not a toilet excreting humanbeing with a deformity of large cubically dis-arranged nose and marquetely round head-junk with a less than a pound weight of a brain packaged enteriorly!get a life!looser.

Xoogsade;

•••• you again.Looser!

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Xoogsade

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LOl Don't hate me, looks like you had a great weekend. Streets ahead of mine. Today was the only off day I had this month and the whole day I was completely busy being IDLE,lol.

You know what though I didn't see anything about sex in your weekend activity, so maybe If you got yourself some this weekend you wouldn't have thrown up on us like you done did just now with this hateful little outburst, little Miss Bambi Narcissist(Cute name for you, huh).

I know your Somali is atrocious but get somebody to translate for you that poem I posted, maybe it will cure you of this tribal sickness you have come down with.

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kowneyn

Monday, July 31, 2000 - 02:57 am
Dear Somalis:

Will everyone ask himself. What has destroyed my people and why is my people despite all their excellent qualities such a dismal failure.

The truth is every one who looks somali is not somali. Dashi ibleys iyo ciidankiisi ba inaga dhexbbeeran. With the sole purpose of destroying you by divisions and by destroying everything u forefathers stood for.

All people have good and bad among them. Some are inclined to do good others cant do but ugly things. Somalis had always two classes of people the Aji and Gun. Aji or noblity was not a birthright but depended on the characters of the individual..(Xume ma ka aajooday)...mise gunnimu falay...

For example, The gun clans of today became such because they oppressed somalis and ruled them through sixir. It was Sheikh Yusuf Alkowneyn who finally killed the last of these rulers the evil Bucur Bacayr, in the processes freeing the Somalis from the bondage and oppresion and than guiding them from darkness to the light of Islam. The oppressors subsequently became gun because they behaved in a predatory manner towards their fellow somalis. In the midgan secret language (a language which even today is gaurded from the average somali)as a heritage remaining from those evil days illustrates clearly the esteem the larger oppressed section( which later became Aji) of the society was held in: the Aji Somali till today in this language is referred to qaryad. We know what qaryad means among somalis of today.
When it came clear to the oppressed the tools that have been used against them in their oppression. The consequence was for somalis to disassociate themselves in marriage etc from the descends of people who could do such evil on unsuspecting and innocent people.

Today we are at the same crossroad. Its not your birthright to be Aji but its something u earn through camalsami. And u dont become Gun by birth rather its the actions that will determine where u stand.

Now I see some who take pleasure in bashing the descendents of sheikh isxaaq. True there are among us those who are not of us and are capable of creulty, evil and oppression. ( Allah will help us illeminate such from our clan because they are our enemies first and foremost. Remember the only enemy Allah specifies to us iblis and any who are of him in intention and action.) What I am happy to say though that the larger majority being noble its hard for them to be mobilized by any one individual to evil actions.

The Isxaaq, although some hate to hear it because of envy, are probably the largest group of
people that descend from our prophet (SAWS). Hashimiyiin laanta ugu dheer. Further, this ahlul bayt community was planted with a definite purpose in the blessed land that used to be called carro edeg. A land in which the descends of previous prophets succeeded each other through the ages in taking root. This process was brought to its full completion with the arrival of shaikh Isxaaq and the planting of the seed of the the most blessed and best of all creation our prophet(SAWS) in a land made rich and fertile by the previous planting of the seeds of prophets and salixiin.

In conclusion, the purpose for Somalis is great and their for in the age of fitna and dajjal...they will be tried harder than others. If u look at its flip side. In the age when shaitan has reign and let loose on man and jinn the best among us will be targeted by him for they pose to his reign the greatest threat. Hence, Somalis r in shambles scattered and their culture, language and religion under full assault by evil in many disguises. In fact, siad barre was shaitan in disguise of a somali and his followers are themselves like him or daalimiin (deceived and in the dark). Until Somalis wake up and understand using all their senses to recognize evil
in all its forms and disguises(including among our loved ones and relatives) we will be suckers to shaitan. Never to free ourselves from the bondage Allah created for those who do not against shaitan stand in unison firm, in successive straightlines, shoulder to shoulder and behind a righteous leader, as we do symbolicly during salaat.

look listen smell touch and most importantly see with your minds eye as well as with your heart. Dont be blindsighted by relatedness, clanism, nationalism, racism or any other ism and give hand to evil. Because ur loading the gun thats ripping holes in your body with out u realizing.

Dhegihi Eebe waansiyay uun ba Dhug u yeelan arrimahan culus een kor ku xusay.

Kowneyn

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ciidagale

Monday, July 31, 2000 - 04:00 am
"NABADU MUSLIN IYO GAALO WAA U GO'AL NASTEEXAAD"

warsangeli ali,

"halyeeyadii baa ciida ka hoos marey,
hadey dhiigyo cabyadii qamaan & dhuux haatan nool yihiin,
warsangeli hadal iiguma haleekeeyeene,
nimankii duubka boqor idiin hayey baa haatan moodsanee,
ayagaa hadal digniin iyo dardaaranba hab kuugu siin lahaa,
garweeye hadatan inaad hadal igu holisaayee,
gardarada aad hogaanka u heysiyo.........ma kuugu wataa mise?

xoogsade,
sxb nimankan waa rag aan dhiig arag oo waxa haya ay yihiin wax looga sheegeeyey. meel rag isku heleyna waa lilaahi ineysan arkin. waana nasiib daro iney dagaal u hayibaan iyadoo nabad la doonayo maanta. marka ninyahow waxba ha ku dayan nimankan ku caayey, adiga ka roonow. qabiilna maanta waad aragtaa meesha uu na dhigey.

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Anonymous

Monday, July 31, 2000 - 04:34 am
muslim-somal-bro-----stay the hell out this is not
your game --- go and bomb israel.

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kaligii duul

Monday, July 31, 2000 - 05:03 am
horta kawneny:doqon kasta oo carabta magaceeda maqla maxuu fiicnaanteed ulasoo ordaa, miyaadan carabta tegin miyaadan maqlin waxay nagu sameeyeen
maad huruday makii shan-kun oo soomali ah markab lagu daadgureynayey(oo ay gaaladu kabaryeysey carabta in ay ba-niaadnimo ku aqbalaan)
mala socotaa nolasha ay soomalida carabta degeni ku-nool yihiin. mise mid kastoo islaanimada halkan
(yurub/w-amerika) ayaa mooda sida fiican ee loo
masruufo oo loo-soodhaweeyey in soomalida looga soodhaweeyo wadamada carabta.dadkaad waal baan nahay ku haysaa - waa adoonkeyga bay-ku hayaan)
doqonyaqhay kala barta carabnimada iyo islaanimada
carabnimadu waa mid adiga gees lagaa dhigayo sababtaa ah ninku hadii uu gaalyahay waa walaalka carabkale hadii uu yahay gaal carab.

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Amadeou

Monday, July 31, 2000 - 05:09 am
aahahahahahahahah damn it! look those f_cking eedoor fagots!.To whom they are trying to fool?aahhahaahahha these are the two dumbest pieces that came accross in my goddamned life ahaahahahahaha. i am here just having my best piece of laugh!

Kowneyn:
to whom you are trying to fool-you f_cuking idiot?. Look aren't you the one who wrote the rubbish in the thread "who will be next somalia president?". aren't you that one? because you see there are real men in thise thread, you are trying to be nice? ahahahaha man stop being hypocrite. we don't buy such childish game. and next time be eedoor man and let's talk. and the rubish history you wrote, for your info, i don't believe shiekh isxaaq character, nor do i haashimi shiit you claimed. in fact i do have the realorigin of eedoor and will tell nextime.


Ciidagale:

stop trying to be nice. let's see what you have as eedoor man.


amadeou

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IIDOOR

Monday, July 31, 2000 - 06:00 am
amadeou,

if you want to compete with iidoor you must come with results. only men with results are the winners. first i want you to name 4 cities which daaarood has that can be compared to hargeysa, burco, berbera and ceerigaabo. please do name them ok. mogadisho is for all somalis. no other tribe in somalia has such cities with that potential. "RAGA LAMA CAASIYO". I HOPE YOU WILL GROW AND LEARN ALOT AND MAKE DIFFERENCE. SO THAT LATER GENERATIONS CAN COMPETE WITH US BUT NOW YOU ARE WAY BEHIND. CATCH-UP MAN! "MEESHAAN DACAYDA HA LAAD-LAADIN"

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kowneyn

Monday, July 31, 2000 - 08:20 am
Amadedeo:

Your kind I would never be nice to except clean them from my society. I never meant to be nice read between the lines and u will see nothing has changed with me Gun wa Gun adiguna GUn Gun keentaadtahay qabiilkastood sheegataba. Camal xumidaadana na tusaalaynaysa. Ninka Reer Sheikh Isxaaq ee jidka awgii ka baydhin abidka ma liidikaraysid. Waliga wa xaq inu ka guul roonado...mar mar aad gaato ku heshid in yar o aad lib moodo mahe..sidii bari dhawayto e ad somali dulmi la kor fadhisateen.. Guni ma camal kalay taqan. Dhibtana Somali kuma koobnayn oo calamka nala qabay. Waayo qashinkii ba xaga sare tagay Gobtina wa la dulmayay adduunko dhan. Xaaladas na haddeer gabagabti bay ku jirta.

Dhibtaad fashan wa mid iif iyo akhiro ba laga abaal marinayo. Waxaan ku huba inaad dulli is baday ood gunnimo ku dambaynaso dhashaadu, aakhirana cadaab aad mutaysatay...haddaad hiil u tahay amaad shahiid ugu tahay sida halkan ka muuqato dulmiga iyo shaitanka.
kowneyn

Kowneyn

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Mr

Monday, July 31, 2000 - 08:53 am
Assalaamu Alaikum,

Dear Xoogsade,

My brother I cannot agree with you more, and any one who resorts to tribalism is a pathetic creature.

Wassalam Wa bilaahi Towfiiq

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P. Stora

Monday, July 31, 2000 - 09:37 am
I slept with Somali chicks from all parts of Somalia and they all smell the same. Take your skinny asses out of America and re-build your country.

My poor Somali friend showed me this discussion board and I would advise her not to associate with any Somalis. These cannibals who eat each other alive. You ate your country and still eating each other abroad! What a story!

My suggestion to you is to think very had tonite when you go to bed about how ignorant you and your people are.

I know there are many very intelligent, smart and good hearted Somalins but you guys are painting •••• with the image of your whole nation. Someone will write a best seller about you based on what you wrote with your own minds eventually.

ALL OF YOU ARE A BUNCH OF NOMADS, CAMEL HERDERS IGNORANT AND ARROGANT. I WONDER WHO SHOWED YOU HOW TO USE BULLETIN BOARDS.

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Jalafaay

Monday, July 31, 2000 - 10:52 am
kaligii duul,,,

Waryaa carab sheekadeeda laguma haayo meeshaan, oo maxaa carabta kugu diray. war orodoo ESL course soo qaado saad u fahamtid sheekada meesha ka socoto...

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Abadiroow

Monday, July 31, 2000 - 01:59 pm
Maxamed siyaad Barre Allaha ha unaxariisto.

Amadedeo afkaada caano lagu qabay, runtaad sheegtay.

Cabaas adna rageeda ayaad tahay. Warsangeli Ali runta ayaan kugu jeclahay.

Kuwiina M.S.Barre hadda inkirsan, waan ogahay in aydun laabta ka jeceshihiin oo tabteen, ee waxaan idiin sheegayaa haddii aad xasaddeen oo xubiga aad u qabtaan qarsateen caruurtiina ayeey kasoo bixi doontaa. Magaaloin badan oo wadanka ah hadda waxaa ka jira Siyad Bare Fun club, oo ah meelo macalinka lagu xuso.

Qabiilo badan oo aanan sheegayn waxaay ku jireen cadib iyo dhibaato, maalintuu xukunka qabtay madaxweynuhu ayaa neefsasho ugu horeeysay. Ganacsi ma suubin jirin, waxbarasho looma ogolayn war iska aamuso dadyahoow waxaad sheegtaan waad garan weeydeene.

Min Raaskambooni illaa Raas xaafuun ma Mareexaanbaa degga? Muxuu barashada af-soomali ugeeyey? Haddii aad dad xasido ogoow cunugaada ayaa ku xasdaya/ku xaqiraya.

Bulsho ------Bille dhahaye ha afguduudnaaninee!!

:-)

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THE TRUTH

Monday, July 31, 2000 - 07:48 pm
It is sickenning to see those maniacs from the northwest of Somalia trying to do whatever they can to get attention even if it means sacrificing for their well being. Did you guys know that ten years went by since isaq desert was let go and up to now they are whining like less than ten years old females. No country, even tiny Djibouti could stand the childish games of these maniacs.
PLEASE, TO ALL THE ISAQS WHO WRITE ON THIS PAGE, DID YOU GUYS FORGOT THAT THIS IS NOT THE ISAQ FANTASY PLACE. READ THE NAME, IT IS SOMALI NET.
SINCE YOU, ISAAQS, ARE A SECOND CLASS SOMALIS(DUE
TO THE WHIPPING YOUR ASSES CAUSED BY FORMER HEROES OF SAYID MOHAMED, ISMAIL MIRE, GANI AND SIYAAD BARRE ) YOU GUYS SHOULD BEHAVE IN THIS NET.
OTHERWISE YOU MIGHT GET MORE WHIPPING FROM CURRENT GREAT MEN IN HERE LIKE AMADEOU, WARSANGELI ALI AND OTHERS.

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iidoor

Monday, July 31, 2000 - 10:55 pm
the truth,

nimankii hawada weyn lahaa haatan lagu leef
kolkaan halkan kaa eryey ba mareekan u carartee
ma hurtadiinii waa aanigan hantiyeyee
kaalayoo dhacso cidlo ha ka hanjabinee
hadaad halyeey wada tihiin xoolahaad gacan ku heysaan cidna ma holiseenee
nimakaad halyeey ku sheegtey waatan heeryada saareyee
inuu haaawiye ku haraantiyeey heley qabaartiiyee
naftaad kala hawootee ee dhacso ma hurtadii
inaad mood iska hormineysaan waa lilaahiyee

warsangeli ali,

markaan cariga nabad kuugu daaqsiiyey inaad hada mareekan ka hanjabtaa haq weeye, lakin kuwii somaliya joogey wey wada heeryo miiran ee kaalay caawi cidla ha ka hanjabin.

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Anonymous

Monday, July 31, 2000 - 11:24 pm
MAD MAC Here

The Truth
Please don't try and tell me that you are saying that you and Amedou and Warangeli are the equivelent in pollitical stature to the Mad Mullah and Jalle Siad. The moral stature maybe - since they were moral pygmies. You know who the last Somali was who was of this stature? Mohamed Farah Aideed. A man who was able to generate a large following while being an amoral slob. Why would anyone want to be compared to these guys is beyond me. and why you continually denegrate the •••••, as if clan affiliation meant a thing is also beyond me. You guys need to get a grip.

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mohamed ibrahim

Tuesday, August 01, 2000 - 12:19 am
Are we misusing information technology here? It's infelicitous to see so many young probably career oriented Somalis reasoning like dogs. I wonder what kind of family background you all had. Didn't your parents teach you manners? I can't believe my eyes. I am indubitably convinced that you all need psychological medical help, the sooner the better. There is no way you will all endure in this vicissitude world with such an attitude. Whatever atrocity committed against humanity in Somalia, history will take care of it. You are not to judge at all. Think of yourself, build your self, make bright future for your family and children. Accusing or defending Siyad Bare will not pay you a cent or leap you a step forward. You better learn how to find the roots of equation than to judge Siyad Bare's crimes. Find decent bread to eat and place to eat. Solve your social problems methodically and systematically. Help your self. I BET YOU ALL ARE REFUGEES NOTHING TO BE PROUD OF!

P.S. Give a man a fish and you feed him a day, Teach a man how to fish and you feed him for life!!

LEARN TO FISH THAN LEARNING TO DEFEND YOUR TRIBE! BROTHERS AND SISTERS!

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The Commisioner

Tuesday, August 01, 2000 - 02:00 am
Hey ppl,

This is haven for all the somali war lord wanna bees,

amedue bro grow up whining and insulting ppl won't get you no where.
As they say action speaks louder than words boy.

I guess it's all the jelousy that is burning your soul.


peace all

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DONT HATE ME DISPISE ME

Tuesday, August 01, 2000 - 02:26 am
oh growwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww uppppppppppppppppppppppp.WHATEVER LOOSERS.

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Anonymous

Tuesday, August 01, 2000 - 03:00 am
MAD MAC Here
If you want a good indicator whether or not a "President" is a positive influence or not look at the following indicators:

a. Is his face on the currency while he is still in office?
b. Are there pictures of him in every buisiness you go in to?
c. Will you be penalized if you criticize his policies in public media?
d. Has he been in office longer than a decade?
e. Does he leave office by peaceful election or is he forced out?
f. While in office are elections considered fraudulent by outside monitoring agnecies?
g. Is there civil unrest / civil war in the country?
h. Are there rallies organized by the state for his honor? Are there songs written and sung about him while he is still in office glorifying him?
i. Is his legacy a country on a degenerative slide, socially and / or economically?

If there are more than two of these with yes answers then there's likely a problem with a self-aggrandizing leader. In the case of Siad Barre you have lots of yes answers. Some people will point to some specific program and say he was doing something good for the country. But Hitler did a lot of positive things for Germany, it didn't make up for the crimes he committed within Germany and without. Same can be said for Joseph Stalin, or Kim Il Sung, or Daniel Arap Moi. Some are more villanous than others but at the end of the day they left (or will leave) legacies of evil and/or poverty. Siad Barre belongs to this group.

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Amadeou

Tuesday, August 01, 2000 - 04:57 am
Folks:

the war against eedoors is getting biger and bigger . and yeah it seems to me it is also gettting bettter and better.
I see heavy champions are all on the loose--just to knock some eedoors out. hmmmmmm!.but it seems that this thread is exhausted. I mean it is very hard to scroll down and read it. So may i suggest if we begin another thread under different name. i am conseiderring "edoor histroy in amadeou prospective". In sha allah, in this thread which i will probably begin next weekend, will be only eedoor history and how they came to being. Participants are expected to back up their idea with references.They are expected to academic people who can come up coherent arguements.

Please note that no idiot can make claim without telling us his/her sources. For instance, and idiot by the name of kowneyn may make childish statement/claim such as "edoors are hashimi descedents" or "there is was sheikh isxaaq" when in fact in, Amadeou 's books, there was no even any fiction character called sheikh isxaaq.


So what you guys think this breathtaking topic?. vote for it and let's make fun out of eedoor asses ahahahaha!.And all edoors are expected to take notes. Here we are doing favor for them telling their origin.
You know fans and folks to hammer some eedoors is my pleasure and it makes me damn happy ;).

To outraged folks:

fellas i really can understand your frustration and how barbaric it may seem to you to egage clan war in the internet but you gotta be understanding here we have aggressive eddoors on the loose who really needed to be stoped. I really mean it!.We can't have even descent descussion. they are everywhere telling us we, south, are savages. Just imagine a week ago,
a friend of mine was telling me that an Ethopian woman asked him why somalis from Hargeysa hate and degrade the other somalis.Look here folks it is an Ethopian woman!. What this campaign against other somalis all about? let 's find out and dig out some edoor asses .


amadeou

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Anonymous

Tuesday, August 01, 2000 - 05:18 am
What the hell is eedor?

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Jalafaay

Tuesday, August 01, 2000 - 05:39 am
Amadeou,

Have you ever been involved with Edoor women? I need your honest answer here. I am not trying to trap you. I am not Edoor. There are some valid points and great deal of merits in the content of your argument and you are doing great job.


kowneyn,

You said, "edoors are hashimi descendents" that is ridiculous statement don't insult Arabs please. You are pure African whether you like it or not.

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Lama Goodle

Tuesday, August 01, 2000 - 07:15 am
You all are REFUGEES.
You are dependant on FORIEGNERS.
You collect WELFARE.
Your children are on FOOD STAMPS.
DOESN'T this ENRAGE YOU????
Don't you get angry that YOU, a citizen of SOMALIA- A country with abundant natural resources, low population density, the second longest coastline in Africa, etc, etc, Is here in the west- barely surviving.
Sitting your life away in coffee shops criticizing each other.
The hell with tribes and clans! What good did it ever do anyone.
You cares who did what. Siyaad is DEAD. Aydiid is DEAD.
And the rest are weak and old- men who are living off the hatred between the tribes. As long as the finger pointing continues- they will be there. Think about it- who cares about the PAST. Only a fool! thats who. Because there is nothing you can do about the past.
We have to care about the FUTURE.
Our Future as Citizens of a NATION.
It makes me so mad when I read about pple like Mad mac- white soldiers on our land.
Ethopians are there too.
•••• pple. who cares if I killed your brother because your cousin killed my uncle because your brother killed my 3rd cousin who stole his wife who was the sister of your uncle who was killed by my father......What kind of logic is this? Maxaan ka dheefney intaa o sanadood?
Hadal- more hadal- iyo dood aan dhamaaneyn.
Haven't we beaten that dead horse for a decade? It is time to snap out of it. The world doesn't care about us. We are homeless. Our flag is forgotten.
Don't you want to go home?
Somaliyey Tooso,
Tooso isku tirsadaye,
Hadba kiini taag daranee,
Tageera weligine.

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